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Their EP is condensed awesomeness.

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From one of my favorite albums of this year:


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Bought this mostly as a curiosity, thinking it might be alright as some florrid background music, but was pleased to find out it is just one funky, weird, inventive track after another.

Like this one example of many:



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I've found the music in the Rollins I've seen groovy enough but don't remember anything as good as that. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.

Also, the placement of that cat is awfully convenient.

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I saw this Gil Scott-Heron concert film from 1982 recently on Prime, which is about th tail end of his prime period before getting lost in his own addiction issues, sadly fulfilling some of his bst songs, like "The Bottle" and "Home is Where the Hatred Is".



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As for Rollin, this one has nice ambience.



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Also, the placement of that cat is awfully convenient.

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I saw this Gil Scott-Heron concert film from 1982 recently on Prime, which is about th tail end of his prime period before getting lost in his own addiction issues, sadly fulfilling some of his bst songs, like "The Bottle" and "Home is Where the Hatred Is".



Watching this brought to mind an artist I'd forget about for a long time now.

You a fan of Garland Jeffrey's at all. Because this guy has some criminally underrated stuff.



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You a fan of Garland Jeffrey's at all. Because this guy has some criminally underrated stuff.

I'm only marginally familiar with him (making me the criminal). I can't hate anyone who can rock a solid "96 Tears".




On an entirely different milieu, I also watched the Residents doc The Theory of Obscurity, and it's nice to see the guys still trying to keep obscure (although we all know their real names by now), and it makes a convincing case that they were the true aesthetic revolutionaries of the punk era. Guerrilla as fuck. I hope Jann Wenner still wakes up in cold sweat, vaguely sensing their presence in his darkest bedroom shadows.



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Mostly Electric Ladyland.


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Hard to find intact studio versions, Janie Hendrix is always taking them down.



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Mostly Electric Ladyland.

I got the 50th anniversery set recently.

I'm a little iffy on the extras. I already had the hotel demos, and they don't sound terribly better here. There's a teased new song in "Snowballs at My Window", but of course it's a goof less than a minute long. Most fascinating is the alternate take of "1983", the last track on the bonus disc. Not only has it not been booted before, it again shows just how meticulously Jimi had structured the recording of the song.

I wish they had sprung for an additional disc to collect some of the more commonly known and booted outtakes: "South Saturn Delta", "Tax Free", "Somewhere", "Cherokee Mist" (the sitar version finally issued on last year's Both Sides of the Sky) and the lovely 90 second solo guitar take of "Have You Ever Been" which has been around since Loose Ends. Also, since they dipped in the demos, it would have been nice to get the '68 era "spoken" version of "Room Full of Mirrors" (although to be fair, it is about 22 minutes long, and isn't on Youtube either).

Finally, the Hollywood Bowl show is a mess, frequently stopped due to "splashing" and electricution risk, but is especially interesting to me because it was the first audience-sourced bootleg I ever bought (TMOQ), and I very quickly decided that I had little interest in audience-sourced live shows. This new set introduces a brand new, unknown soundboard of the show. Despite all of the chaos, it is nice to finally hear what it sounded like.


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I got the 50th anniversery set recently.

I'm a little iffy on the extras. I already had the hotel demos, and they don't sound terribly better here. There's a teased new song in "Snowballs at My Window", but of course it's a goof less than a minute long. Most fascinating is the alternate take of "1983", the last track on the bonus disc. Not only has it not been booted before, it again shows just how meticulously Jimi had structured the recording of the song.

I wish they had sprung for an additional disc to collect some of the more commonly known and booted outtakes: "South Saturn Delta", "Tax Free", "Somewhere", "Cherokee Mist" (the sitar version finally issued on last year's Both Sides of the Sky) and the lovely 90 second solo guitar take of "Have You Ever Been" which has been around since Loose Ends. Also, since they dipped in the demos, it would have been nice to get the '68 era "spoken" version of "Room Full of Mirrors" (although to be fair, it is about 22 minutes long, and isn't on Youtube either).

Finally, the Hollywood Bowl show is a mess, frequently stopped due to "splashing" and electricution risk, but is especially interesting to me because it was the first audience-sourced bootleg I ever bought (TMOQ), and I very quickly decided that I had little interest in audience-sourced live shows. This new set introduces a brand new, unknown soundboard of the show. Despite all of the chaos, it is nice to finally hear what it sounded like.

How about the Blu Ray? A friend bought the set and flipped out over the 5.1 mix.

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How about the Blu Ray? A friend bought the set and flipped out over the 5.1 mix.

Haven't gotten to that yet (or the 5.1 of the White Album). I'm sure that it will make use of the circular phase pans of the original with a bit more depth.

I know that Jimi was unhappy that, when originally mastered, the record company "corrected" some of these phase effects. I'm not sure if this can truly be faithfully replicated 50 years after the fact, but who knows?


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Haven't gotten to that yet (or the 5.1 of the White Album). I'm sure that it will make use of the circular phase pans of the original with a bit more depth.

I know that Jimi was unhappy that, when originally mastered, the record company "corrected" some of these phase effects. I'm not sure if this can truly be faithfully replicated 50 years after the fact, but who knows?

I'm not really big on the surround thing anyway, but my friend's reaction piqued my interest. He's a professional musician though, so he's sometimes impressed by things that mean nothing to me, if you know what I mean. Still, I've got the set on my Christmas list, so here's hoping I can hear it first-hand at no cost to my wallet.

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I'm not really big on the surround thing anyway, but my friend's reaction piqued my interest. He's a professional musician though, so he's sometimes impressed by things that mean nothing to me, if you know what I mean. Still, I've got the set on my Christmas list, so here's hoping I can hear it first-hand at no cost to my wallet.

I don't mean to shrug off your friend's excitement. The album is a sonic marvel, with most of these effects being done manually (ie, twiddling knobs) as the devices to produce such phase/flange/delay FX hadn't been manufactured yet. Any chance to hear it with more clarity is welcome.


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Any chance to hear it with more clarity is welcome.

Agreed. I've still got the old 90s CD (the one with the revisionist cover) so I'm just looking at this as an upgrade, even if I rarely listen to the bonus stuff.

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I don't know why, but I generally have no interest in these reissues. I feel satisfied with the Electric Ladyland I have and, like you, I have a ton of Hendrix content beyond the albums and posthumous releases. What you're telling me is not making me feel like there's good stuff I'd be missing if I didn't get the 50th.


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The only thing that can make Devo better is if Neil Young was in their band



Unfortunately, it cuts off before it hits maximum Devo/Young madness. You'll have to endure the pretty horrendous Neil Young film Human Highway to watch the entire performance.


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According to Spotify I've spent over 25 hours listening to the Beatles this year. This doesn't even count the amount of hours I listened to clips of them on youtube.

Time well spent I'd say.


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According to Spotify I've spent over 25 hours listening to the Beatles this year. This doesn't even count the amount of hours I listened to clips of them on youtube.

Time well spent I'd say.


I would say at the peak of my Beatles fixation, I was listening to them at least 25 hours a week. And that would be on a very bad week. Of course this is very easy when you refuse to listen to anything else but them for 3, maybe 4 years.

Also time well spent.


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Speaking of Devo has led me down a rabbit hole of listening to everything I have by them. And it has brought back memories of how at 5 years old this was my favorite song of all time



If only I could convince my family to have the lyrics "Pink Pussycat, Meow Meow Meow" etched on my tombstone. It encapsulates everything I have to say about this stupid life.


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The only thing that can make Devo better is if Neil Young was in their band



Unfortunately, it cuts off before it hits maximum Devo/Young madness. You'll have to endure the pretty horrendous Neil Young film Human Highway to watch the entire performance.

How horrendous are we talking here? The Wikipedia page makes it sound like an interesting enough oddity, and it looks like Bay Street Video might have a copy.

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Speaking of Devo has led me down a rabbit hole of listening to everything I have by them. And it has brought back memories of how at 5 years old this was my favorite song of all time



If only I could convince my family to have the lyrics "Pink Pussycat, Meow Meow Meow" etched on my tombstone. It encapsulates everything I have to say about this stupid life.

Duty Now For the Future has the misfortune of coming between two unreasonably great albums (some days I'd call Freedom of Choice my favourite album period), but when I'm taking a break from those two, it makes for nice alternative programming, especially as it plays like a transition between the other two, serving as a best of both worlds in a way. (It helps that it's still pretty great on its own.) As for favourite track, I'd have to go with "Secret Agent Man", but rather than posting the version from the album, here's a lightning fast live performance.



And a slower, weirder, earlier version that shows up in the Men Who Make The Music video compilation. (The opening to this got repurposed into the intro to "Smart Patrol/Mr. DNA".)


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How horrendous are we talking here? The Wikipedia page makes it sound like an interesting enough oddity, and it looks like Bay Street Video might have a copy.


It's got Young and Devo in it, so it is worth it for those willing to take the plunge. But it is pretty crappy when considered as being anything but the oddity that it is. Especially when one of the greatest moments in the film is a live performance of Come Back Jonee, something I apparently completely imagined since I can find absolutely no evidence of it ever happening. But trust me when I say, whether it exists or not, this is well worth the price of admission.


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Duty Now For the Future has the misfortune of coming between two unreasonably great albums [/youtube]

I have no shame in calling it my favorite Devo album.


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I've been trying to seek out the rare early Devo comps, Hardcore Devo, but they're out of print. Toronto probably has warehouses full of them, prepping for the inevitable pop apocalypse.


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It's got Young and Devo in it, so it is worth it for those willing to take the plunge. But it is pretty crappy when considered as being anything but the oddity that it is. Especially when one of the greatest moments in the film is a live performance of Come Back Jonee, something I apparently completely imagined since I can find absolutely no evidence of it ever happening. But trust me when I say, whether it exists or not, this is well worth the price of admission.

I just watched the movie and can confirm that such a thing does indeed happen, if only briefly (we don't get the whole song). I'm not sure the performance footage from the music video is the same as the movie, but it does feature the same costumes (which apparently Young bought them to persuade them to be in the movie).



Also, while the movie has obvious shortcomings, I find it too good natured to dislike. And Booji Boy cheering on the oncoming apocalypse is something to behold.

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I've been trying to seek out the rare early Devo comps, Hardcore Devo, but they're out of print. Toronto probably has warehouses full of them, prepping for the inevitable pop apocalypse.

That was on YouTube in full a while ago, but it looks like it's been taken down since.

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I'm finally appreciating how good this album sounds or I'm turning into my Dad:


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Hey, Janson. You open your pockets to Columbia's latest Dylan dump? I speak of course of the Blood on the Tracks bootleg. I've been working my way through it and I'm enjoying hanging out in its headspace. When it's just a wash of so many out- and alternate takes, it's hard to have any individual sense of the songs beyond the ones that've already been released, but it's been cool hearing him feel his way through different arrangements and lyrics.


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Hey, Janson. You open your pockets to Columbia's latest Dylan dump? I speak of course of the Blood on the Tracks bootleg. I've been working my way through it and I'm enjoying hanging out in its headspace. When it's just a wash of so many out- and alternate takes, it's hard to have any individual sense of the songs beyond the ones that've already been released, but it's been cool hearing him feel his way through different arrangements and lyrics.

Funny you should ask. I've started going through it last week, slowly, for the reasons you mention. Like, nine takes in a row of "You're Going to Make Me Lonesome" is a bit much in one plow. I still tend to prefer the takes which are less adorned, but even the slight arrangement differences (a dash of extra guitar here, some brushed drums there) make it more palatable to tolerate the monotony of take after take. More than that, I think, is the richness of variety in Dylan's vocal interpretations. There are the lyrical variations, some more subtle than others, but also testing inflections, making a lyric sound sarcastic on one take or making it plaintive in another.

As you may remember, I prefer the original test pressing of the LP with one minor alteration (substituting the organ-less take of "Idiot Wind" from Bootleg II), and I still prefer the alternate arrangements of songs like "If You See Her, Say Hello" and "Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts". Although, in the latter, I'm still not sure what the "butterfly" is supposed to be. Maybe it was a wink back at Van Morrison who had notoriously interpreted "Just Like a Woman" a song about a drag queen.

All of the songs appear to be scarce on Youtube at the moment.



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Funny you should ask. I've started going through it last week, slowly, for the reasons you mention. Like, nine takes in a row of "You're Going to Make Me Lonesome" is a bit much in one plow. I still tend to prefer the takes which are less adorned, but even the slight arrangement differences (a dash of extra guitar here, some brushed drums there) make it more palatable to tolerate the monotony of take after take. More than that, I think, is the richness of variety in Dylan's vocal interpretations. There are the lyrical variations, some more subtle than others, but also testing inflections, making a lyric sound sarcastic on one take or making it plaintive in another.

Agreed. I like the different vocal styles he tries on, though there's sometimes that reflexive tug of what the song is "supposed" to be, i.e. what I'm used to. Really, the only vocal variants I'm skeptical of are "Lonesome" coincidentally. It took him a while to find that skipping, propulsive delivery that cements the album version. The earlier ones largely pass as easy listening.

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As you may remember, I prefer the original test pressing of the LP with one minor alteration (substituting the organ-less take of "Idiot Wind" from Bootleg II), and I still prefer the alternate arrangements of songs like "If You See Her, Say Hello" and "Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts".

I prefer the alternate "Hello" too. He just gets way too Dylany for his own good on the album and then there's the supposedly last-moment "gettin' free" switch-up which is a real clunker. (Funny how much he struggled on "Buckets" btw with "you do what you must do".) The alts for the other two are good, just not my favorites. I prefer them with spit and fire.

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Although, in the latter, I'm still not sure what the "butterfly" is supposed to be. Maybe it was a wink back at Van Morrison who had notoriously interpreted "Just Like a Woman" a song about a drag queen.

I always assumed it was either Lilly or Rosemary. It depends on what I'm hallucinating at the time. I like the opacity in what's otherwise a simple-sounding western story.


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I always assumed it was either Lilly or Rosemary. It depends on what I'm hallucinating at the time. I like the opacity in what's otherwise a simple-sounding western story.

Nah. It's Lilly. Definitely Lilly.


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More good Dylan news: Scorsese to release a Rolling Thunder doc.

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Really, the only vocal variants I'm skeptical of are "Lonesome" coincidentally. It took him a while to find that skipping, propulsive delivery that cements the album version. The earlier ones largely pass as easy listening.

It took me awhile to resist skipping propulsively over that entire block of "Lonesome" takes.

The best example that I can think of for showing this vocal contrast would be between the first two takes of "You're a Big Girl Now". Take 1 is pretty mean, with a barely repressed underlying snarl that makes lines like "You made it there somehow" and "I know where I can find you" into indictments. The second take, above, is much more tender, sounding more forgiving and regretful.

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I always assumed it was either Lilly or Rosemary. It depends on what I'm hallucinating at the time. I like the opacity in what's otherwise a simple-sounding western story.

Big Jim seems a little aloof with the ladies at times. But, on second thought, I think "Jack of Hearts" is more likely to be an allusion than a character, or a metaphor for this impulse of desire tying the other characters together, at times shifting into the name of the club. It's a nice tune, anyway, and I think it must be his first mega-stanza song since "Frankie Priest" seven years prior.


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I've also been tentatively trying to find some good new music from the last year.

It's both heartning and depressing (because I'm old) to see the Thrill Jockey sound become retro. (btw, The Sea & Cake also released a new album this past year.)




Emo Kosmische?




Modern prog done good




All of this, and they do a pretty rad "Staying Alive" as well.




One of the best Talking Heads rip-offs of recent memory. (*compliment)



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My favorite discovery of 2018 is the very fun Swedish AOR band Night Flight Orchestra:


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James Chance > Michael Jackson > People who say James Chance is better than Michael Jackson



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