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Not Quite a Remake Rematch between
The Mayor of Hell (1933), Crime School (1938) and Hell's Kitchen (1939)

The Writers

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--1933---------------
Edward Chodorov (screen play). This man has 33 screen writing credits ranging from 1933 to 1960. His first writing credit is for The Mayor of Hell (1933), but he was also a Broadway playwright (actually, that was his primary occupation) and television writer. IMDb reports that Chodorov was a member of the Communist party, or at least "choreographer Jerome Robbins" identified him as such. He was then blacklisted in Hollywood in 1953. The Wikipedia article doesn't provide much more information. Chodorov was also active as a film producer, and shows up again in that category in the credits for The Mayor of Hell. Chodorov was born in New York City, and died there. He lived from 17 April 1904 to 9 October 1988.

Islin Auster (based on a story by). Apparently this writer exists as a credit on a few films produced between
1939 and 1956. He was born 15 September 1904, and lived until 16 April 1990. No other information can be found on the mighty internet about Islin Auster, other than his filmography. The Mayor of Hell was his second writing credit; he wrote the story on which the film script was based. Auster has four writing credits and five producer credits at IMDb.


Now, you will possibly notice that the next two films in the Multimatch were written by the same man, working with a different co-writer in each case. Crane Wilbur's name shows up four times in the credits for these two films.

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--1938---------------

Crane Wilbur (screen play). This man has his first screen credit as writer of the story for a short film: The Blood of Our Brothers (1915), the first of three that year. Wilbur had been an actor in silent films since 1910. In all he has 89 IMDb-listed acting credits from 1910 to 1936. He has 37 directing credits between 1916 and 1932. And 88 writing credits between 1915 and 1962. Besides Crime School (1938) he is known for Hell's Kitchen (1939), He Walked by Night (1948), I Was a Communist for the FBI (1951), House of Wax (1953), and Mysterious Island (1961). These, along with 82 others, including episodes here and there for popular TV shows. For such a prolific writer/director/actor it is interesting to note that Wilbur has no awards page at IMDb.

Vincent Sherman (screen play). Sherman was born Abram Orovitz in Vienna, GA on 16 July 1906. He donated his remains to the USC Medical School on 18 June 2006 when he no longer needed them. He was 28 days shy of a century old when he died. Sherman has only 6 writing credits. Crime School (1938) is the first of these. All 6 were completed by 1939, when he directed The Return of Doctor X. He is best known as a director. He directed mostly feature films until 1965 when he shifted to television series and TV movies. His final directorial credits are for three episodes of Trapper John, M.D. in 1981 and 1983. You may have heard of Mr. Skeffington (1944), The Naked Earth (1958), The Young Philadelphians (1959), and The Second Time Around (1961). Or, maybe I have and I'm thinking you might have.

Crane Wilbur (from a story by). By the way, Wilbur lived from 1886 to 1973.

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--1939---------------
Crane Wilbur (screen play).

Fred Niblo Jr. (screen play). Didn't dabble around all over various Hollywood departments. Nope. He wrote the scenario for a short film Climbing the Golden Stairs (1929), and racked up 57 writing credits between that job and writing two episodes of Lux Video Theatre in 1956. He had dozens of screenplays under his belt by the time he co-wrote Hell's Kitchen (1939). He penned the part of Kaspa the Lion Man that Buster Crabbe brought to life in King of the Jungle (1933). He wrote the screenplay and story for Fugitive Lady (1934), The Fighting 69th (1940). A good many other films that were later dubbed "noir." Dozens of feature screenplays, and then ended his career with four teleplays between 1951 and 1956. All this time he was the nephew of George M. Cohan, and the son of film director Fred Niblo, Sr. He lived between 23 January 1903 and 18 February 1973. Mr. Niblo was nominated for Best Writing, Adaptation at the Academy Awards for The Criminal Code (1931). I was able to find images of his father, but none that are reliably of Niblo, Jr.

Crane Wilbur (from an original story by). I simply cannot learn whether the same story was adapted for both Crime School (1938) and Hell's Kitchen (1939). I wonder if they are the same, or different. Actually, the 1939 story is more similar to the 1933 story than the 1938 story. I also find no suggestion that Crane Wilbur was also Islin Auster, so I've ruled out that possibility. I did find that they both worked on screenplays for the film (Pearl Buck's) China Sky (1945). There is a long quotation from an AFI page below.



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Edward Chodorov Google search results.

Edward Chodorov. From fanphobia.net. Source of Chodorov image.

CRANE WILBUR INSCRIBED from imgwide.com. Crane Wilbur photo.

Vincent Sherman from nndb.com. Source of Vincent Sherman photograph.

China Sky from AFI.com. "The opening credits read "RKO presents Pearl Buck's China Sky. "News items in HR provide the following information about the film's long production history: RKO bought the rights to Buck's story in Sep 1941. By Feb 1942, Islin Auster was signed to produce the picture and in Apr 1942, Robert Stevenson was slated to direct it. By May 1943, Emmet Lavery was scheduled to write the screen adaptation as well as produce the film. Luise Ranier, Margo, Maureen O'Hara and Kim Hunter were all considered for female leads in the picture and Paul Henreid was considered for the male lead. At one point, David Hempstead was to produce, with Claudette Colbert playing the lead. Materials contained in the RKO Archives Script Files at the UCLA Art Library--Special Collections add that Roy Chanslor, Ketti Frings, S. K. Lauren, Robert Stevenson and Crane Wilbur all worked on versions of the screenplay, but the extent of their contribution to the released film has not been determined."

Crane Wilbur. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Crane Wilbur - Pondering the Potentate of Prison Pictures a pdf of an article by Brent Walker, appearing in Noir City Spring 2011. "In 1937, Wilbur also wrote the feature that forever typed him as a prison expert: Alcatraz Island. It was a modest production, shot entirely at the Warners’ studio by B unit director William McGann. The plot, concerning a society racketeer (John Litel) who ends up on “the Rock” after an income tax evasion rap, shows the obvious headline influence of the man for whom Crane Wilbur once gave a command performance—Al Capone."

Crime School from tcm.com. Leonard Matlin review excerpt: "Bogart sets out to improve a reform school, but meets his match in the Dead End Kids. OK reworking of THE MAYOR OF HELL, weakened by the Kids' disreputable personalities and Bogart's unlikely casting as a do-gooder. Story rehashed again as HELL'S KITCHEN."

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The new calculations suggest that I'll do two tech crew posts, and then one of the other kind (review or essay) through the end of the Round.

So here's a second tech post from the post anchored by Tom Brown's Schooldays. (1940). Thankfully, it's the last tech post from that Rematch! (I canned the rest of teh Quotes posts, remember?)

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A Comparison of Tom Brown's School Days (1940),Tom Brown's Schooldays (1951),Tom Brown's Schooldays (1971) & Tom Brown's Schooldays (2005)
In the Cutting Room

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The man who cut Tom Brown's School Days (1940) into its final shape, William Hamilton (1893–1942) began his career editing silent films. His first was The Bright Shawl (1923). He continued as a film editor until 1935, in which year he edited three films, but directed a fourth. Between 1935 and 1942 Hamilton directed five feature films, all but one in 1935 and 1936, but continued working as an editor as well, chalking up another 17 editorial credits. His directorial and editorial projects do not overlap, except on the calendar. The Tom Brown film was one of three he edited in 1940. After the film we are considering, there were only five more editing jobs before Hamilton died on August 3, 1942. He was only 48 years old at the time. Many of his films featured Astaire and Rogers: The Gay Divorcee (1934), Top Hat (1935), Shall We Dance (1937). He also edited Alfred Hitchcock's Suspicion (1941) and Mr. & Mrs. Smith (1941). Earlier, Hamilton had edited the triple-Oscar-winning Western, Cimmaron (1931), which also received the NBR award in 1931 as one of the National Board of Review's Top Ten Films, and the Photoplay Awards Medal of Honor (1932). Hamilton's name is not on any of the awards, but the movie couldn't have won if he hadn't done his job well! His contribution definitely helped with the 1931 Best Picture Academy Award, no doubt.

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Kenneth Heeley-Ray (–2006) has only three editor credits, one of which is a short film and one of which he has no screen credit for. Tom Brown's Schooldays (1951) is the middle of the three. It seems that after 1966 Mr. Heeley-Ray decided to focus his talents on other areas of film production. He has three producer credits, the first of which is for The Scribe (1966), the last of his editorial gigs. His next producer credit is for Porky's II: the Next Day (1983). The man's life-long interest was in the field of sound. He has 81 sound department credits beginning with Hungry Hill (1947) and ending with Loose Cannons (1990). In that area, his credits range broadly over both genre and quality. You may have heard of some of the films: Treasure Island (1950), The Southern Star (1969), Black Christmas (1974), King Solomon's Treasure (1979), Quest for Fire (1981), A Christmas Story (1983), The Big Easy (1986). Maybe you've listened to some of them, as well. On a number of the 81 motion pictures he was sound editor, on others sound supervisor. For a few he provided sound effects. From Land of the Long Day (1952) through Blitzkrieg (1962), Heeley-Ray worked almost exclusively on documentary films, both feature length and shorts.

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Information for the 1971 television adaptation remains spotty. There is a film editing credit for Clare Douglas, but for only one of the five episodes. The series seems to have been shot on film, so one can only assume that Ms. Douglas edited more than episode one, which is the only episode that credits her work. This was her first editing gig according to IMDb. Her 41 editorial credits play out in 2007. She edited four episodes of Doctor Who (1976) "The Masque of Mandragora" with Tom Baker as the Doctor. Over time, and especially just before the turn of the century Ms. Douglas began to work as editor on more television movies, and a few features. Her highest profile editorial credit is for United 93 (2006) for which she received the BAFTA Best Editing award, and for which she got an Oscar nomination. IMDb shows Bloody Sunday (2002) and The Lost Prince (2003) as among her most-known after the United 93 film.

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Beverley Mills has 37 editing credits at IMDb. I have seen three of them: The Life and Adventures of Nicholas Nickleby (2001), Tom Brown's Schooldays (2005) and Death at a Funeral (2007). Eighteen of her credits are for work on television series. The rest are theatrical features and television movies. Some of the features are in the documentary genre. Others are what you might call literary drama. Her work has not gone unnoticed by her colleagues who bestowed upon her an editing award: the 2006 Primetime Emmy for Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Miniseries or a Movie based on her work on Part I of Elizabeth I (2005). But as you notice, if you look at the list, that was her second win for editing nominations. And she likely has a long career ahead of her.

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If you become rich and powerful, I hope that you will be cream rather than pond scum." --YTMN

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An essay from the long-neglected Not Quite a Remake Rematch of The Adventures of Pinocchio and Artificial Intelligence.

I don't even have ideas for essays 3 & 4 in this rematch, yet!

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Not Quite a Remake Rematch between
Pinocchio (1996) and A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001)


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Someone to Love

Gepetto is a lonely man who has spent his life creating things that look humanoid, but are not real. They all have strings, and need a skillful human to make them move. The craftsman decides to go to the Italian woods and find the perfect piece of wood from which to build what he imagines will be his best marionette ever. He doesn't know that the piece of wood he selects is enchanted, so when he finishes carving the new puppet from the perfect piece of pine wood, he gives it a name. Pine-eyes, or Pinocchio. To his surprise, the marionette comes to life. This is the crux of the 1996 movie.

Monica is a lonely woman whose husband, Henry, works for a cybernetics outfit, and whose son, Martin, is in a coma at the hospital. Actually, it is an extended care facility, because the boy has been comatose for years. There is no good prognosis, so the husband brings home a little boy robot which is programmed to actually love a human being. For days Monica postpones reading the rubric that will turn on the personality built into the little mecha, but she finally gives in and pronounces the words over him. He changes instantly, becoming much more like a living human being, and falls in love with her -- and (later on) with the story of Pinocchio. He wants to be a real boy. Looking at him you would never be able to tell that he isn't a real boy, but he knows. And this is the crux of the 2001 film.

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Then, of course, as with all stories, the complicating incidents come to pass. For Pinocchio it is to become autonomously mobile and intellectually aware, so that he doesn't need strings to move him or a human voice to give him words. And with his newfound intellect he dreams of becoming a real boy, not a stringless marionette. Pinocchio wanders off on his own, naive as can be, and prey for every con artist in the city where Gepetto lives.

For David the complication is the spontaneous remission of the coma that held Martin, the real boy that he replaced, in thrall. Martin rouses from his coma, and comes home. Before long, David gets taken to the woods and dumped like a dog. Monica drives away, leaving him to fend for himself. He believes that if he can find the Blue Fairy he can become a real boy, like Martin, and win back the love of Monica.

Both of the not quite-so-real boys will now have amazing adventures in a world they are not familiar with. And underneath all these adventures, this what makes both movies go: the desire of the protagonists to find love, and by doing so, to become real.

It is not sexual love that they seek. It is, instead, romantic love: the elevated placement that one has in another person's perceived order of things in the world. To be the most important, or one of the very most important things or people to them. It is a fantasy, of course. This fantasy is, no doubt, a portion of romantic love as broadcast in this heteronormative modern world of the West. In a bow to that, David's desired love object is the other-sex Monica, but that is just a dodge. He only wants her to love him because he has been fooled by his programming to fixate on her.

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Gepetto, his creator, his father, is the object of affection for the puppet boy. It is a filial romance, just as asexual as the one between the mom and her little mecha. Pinocchio's quest to become real is partly due to his desire to be the son his father wants. His quest is undertaken, albeit innocently, as he doesn't know he is on a quest to find the way to become real. David's quest is forced upon him. Both find themselves ultimately, and almost equally magically, back in the presence of the one they adore.

In the quest for love both of these pseudo-lads face what amounts to torture at the hands of others. Pinocchio is on his own at the hands of his tormentors, apart from Pepe, a friendly cricket. And David has the supertoy Teddy as his companion in his travels. Pinocchio largely ignores Pepe's advice, while David mostly listens to the wise teddy bear. They both get into life-and-death situations as they roam the countryside.

Oddly, in the older story, Pinocchio's eventual transformation into a real boy is the beginning of his life. For Collodi's character, to attain realness is a goal with goals beyond it. But remember that Collodi originally had Pinocchio hanged, and that was the end of the story!

In the more recent tale, when he becomes a real boy David's life is over. For the mecha, to attain realness is the ultimate reward, and there is nothing else to match it. It kind of reminds me of one of the transient fantasies of Malcom in If.... (1968) where Malcom says something about making love with a girl once, then walking into the sea and drowning. As if the moment could never be surpassed by anything else in life, so why bother going on?

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The ending of The Adventures of Pinocchio makes sense, after all that's why Collodi's publisher persuaded the author to add a happy ending to the story he told, and not let it end with Pinocchio's hanging. But no one persuaded Spielberg to remove the blunt-force trauma caused by the final scene of Artificial Intelligence.

This quest to be loved, and to find once again the object of his own love drives both these faux boys through their adventures. They have companions who pull them both toward goodness and evil as they travel. They both receive revelations about themselves that they find it hard to face. Either film is more sanguine than Collodi's novel, of course. But to one extent or another, the inhuman boys both achieve the reconnection with their beloved that they seek. Although, only one becomes a real boy.



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If you become rich and powerful, I hope that you will be cream rather than pond scum." --YTMN

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Today's post is about the music crew in the NQRR that covers bicycle films.

I had to put in the DVDs and listen to the scores again to recall what they were like. You won't leave the theater humming any of the music, but it is nice music, and could probably be a stand-alone album in either case. In fact, Wang Feng's early albums include the soundtrack from Beijing Bicycle.

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If you become rich and powerful, I hope that you will be cream rather than pond scum." --YTMN

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A Comparison of Bicycle Thieves (1948) & Beijing Bicycle (2001)
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--1948---------------
Alessandro Cicognini (1906–1995) composed music for The Two Sergeants (1936), and had a good run as a film composer through Don Camillo in Moscow (1965). That film was his 116th compoer credit. Posthumously, he has added Our Host Planet (2015). His music for Bicycle Thieves is largely modern romantic style. There are mostly strings, but occasional flutes. No brass. Diagetic music is heard in three sequences: a subterranean scene where Antonio winds up at a play rehearsal, a solo organ playing in a church scene, and a small combo playing in a restaurant where Antonio and Bruno eat lunch while searching for the bicycle. Cicognini's music wasn't entirely confined to Italian films, although he also scored Umberto D. (1952) for De Sica, as well as dozens of other Italian movies. He also made the music for Summertime (1955), among his "foreign" film scores. Many of his Italian film scores were heard by American audiences, anyway, as he wrote the music for many Italian films released in the US.

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The music in Beijing Bicycle is deceptively soothing in character. It seems to be made with a mixture of traditional Chinese instruments and Western strings. Feng Wang is the composer. He has only two composer credits and one Soundtrack credit at IMDb. The other composition credit is for Drifters (2003). The soundtrack credit is Wolf Totem (2015) as writer of the lyrics and performer of "Song of Redemption." As it turns out, he is a Chinese bassist and singer, who is busy with other activities besides scoring films.



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Wang Feng (singer). From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

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Thanks to everyone who has supported this thread through the years by reading. I need to tell you about what has become some inevitable changes to the thread, although I cannot say exactly what changes will be made.

This is a heads up that if you like the thread, it won't be able to remain here forever (forever meaning as long as Stephen and Nick keep the board open). I'll ultimately have to make some other provisions. So, if you really want to read all this slop I've written and published here, you might want to do it sooner, rather than being like one of those New Yorkers who said, "Yeah, I'd like to visit the World Trade Centers, but I've got time. They'll be there for the rest of my life."

Today I got an email from Photobucket touting a new plan they have. Apparently I have to choose a different plan from the one I have. The next most expensive plan is $59.99 yearly, allows 50 GB of storage, no linking and no 3d party use. No linking would kill this thread.

The next plan is $99.99 per year and allows 100 GB of storage with unlimited linking. No 3d party use. The top plan is 399.99 per year with unlimited everything, but that's a freaking stupid price for me to pay for a hobby.

So is a hundred a year.

EDIT: After reading the Photobucket FAQ, I realize that I am totally wrong. It would cost me $399.99 per year to continue this thread. Sorry folks, but when it comes time for PB to throw the switch, this thread will have to become toast. I thought linking was what we do here, but that's what they call 3d party hosting. I cannot afford this. I wish I were rich!

But I can't move to another storage source besides Photobucket, because I started using it in 2011 when it was free, and later bought unlimited bandwidth when the traffic to this thread overmatched what they were willing to provide each month for free (remember when the pix in the thread would go dark for 5-8 days at the end of the month?) and now I have been shoved into a new corner by Photobucket.

So, folks, these are my choices as I see them:
1. Pay the extortion rate of 100 bucks a year to Photobucket in order to keep this thread running, and move ahead with it as planned.

2. Slowly but surely re-link the thousands of BBcode tags in this thread to hundreds of photos uploaded to another source that might be free, or might not be, and perhaps be free of monthly or yearly charges, but subject to being cut off by the relatively large traffic the linking generates (that's why I had to pay Photobucket, not for the storage, even though that is up to 8.3 GB at this point, but because the traffic was above what they wanted to provide for free). That new site could actually be trxbooks.com which I pay for every year, anyway. Uploading the files would be miraculously quick, because I'd just FTP the whole batch, but then I'd need to establish links to each picture and redo the thousands of links in the thread to make it work. Phew!

3. Since I would have to relink everything, just migrate the entire thread to HTML web pages at TRX books, store the files natively on the server I already pay for and scarcely use, and link from here to my own server for the individual new posts or Rematches or whatever. The ones in the thread would go dark, unless I linked the BBcode to the locations of files on the trx server, of course. So this one would look quite ugly eventually. Probably would start a new thread to be a broker to the trxbooks site or something.

2 and 3 require a huge freaking amount of labor. Compared to what I would have to do, the hundred bucks is cheap.

But I think PB has finally forced me to actively consider my younger son's suggestion of 2015, which is to migrate the entire YTMN Remake Rematch thread to trxbooks.com in order to keep it visitable in the future.

Or there is another option:

4. Deep six the thread at this point, which I would do by not buying a Photobucket plan so that the Corrie links could be run. If I don't spend $100 bucks with them for the next year, the thread will be dead, anyhow, because the plan I have now won't allow linking to the embedded images that are stored at Photobucket.

I don't think Stephen and Nick would like it very much if I loaded all my original graphics to their Corrie server and linked the BBcode to those files. It would be a lot of traffic for them. So moving it to trxbooks.com is probably the only viable alternative. And even that might create more traffic for them than they can handle, since I'm not sure how that would work, precisely. It will need some research on my part.

And I'm not sure I feel like it's worth the trouble.

But, I'll continue posting a few things until I get this Round done. That means I'm going to spend $99.99 with Photobucket over the next few months, anyway. I could have it billed monthly at $10 a month until I get everything resettled.

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If you become rich and powerful, I hope that you will be cream rather than pond scum." --YTMN

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Not Quite a Remake Rematch of The Tingler (1959), Night of the Creeps (1986) & Slither (2006)
Behind the Lens

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1959
Wilfred M. Cline (1903–1976) director of photography. The Fearless Rider (1928) was the first film to feel Cline's touch. A year later he began to work in documentary film alongside his feature photography. Through the years features began to outnumber docs, and then television provided a living for the last 24 years of the man's career. Westerns seem to dominate the feature titles in his filmography. Cline shot as many as five sound films per year, sometimes tossing in a gig for a TV show. IMDb suggests that Cline is best known for the films Calamity Jane (1953) and The Giant Gila Monster (1959), and the TV shows The Big Valley (1965-1969) and Stagecoach West (1960-1961). Although he didn't win the statues, Cline was nominated for an Oscar and an Emmy.

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1986
Robert C. New director of photography. Night of the Creeps is New's 11th photography credit, out of 41 so far. Mostly, Robert New has worked in feature films, but he has done TV as well. His longest TV attachment was for So Weird (TV, 1999-2001) for which he photographed 52 episodes. One of his best-known works is Prom Night (1980), and he shot 11 episodes of Beverly Hills, 90210 (TV, 1991). New was the photographer for Jean-Claude van Damme's Lionheart (1990). He seems to work a lot on horror types of projects.

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Gregory Middleton director of photography. Middleton has worked on six episodes of Game of Thrones (TV, 2015-2017). His 62 cinematography credits began with Hate Mail (short, 1992) and continue through Rememory (2017) and the HBO Thrones series. Despite the fact that Middleton works across genres, for theater release and TV broadcast, I have not seen much of his output. Apart from Slither (2006) and the pilot for Kyle XY (TV, 2006) I am pretty certain I've seen none of his work. Still, my lack of knowledge of his projects has not hindered his obvious success in the prolific modern world of motion picture production.




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:x Well, this is all rather disappointing!

This Photobucket FAQ entry says that the 3d party hosting won't go away immediately:

Photobucket FAQ wrote:
What Users Are Affected By The Changes To Our 3rd Party Hosting Policies?
Moving forward, new and legacy free account users will NOT have third party
hosting available.

If you were a Plus Account subscriber in good standing as of June 1, 2017,
you will continue to have all the privileges you have enjoyed including 3rd
Party Hosting until December 31, 2018 as long as you maintain your
subscription.

Non Plus 500 Account subscribers that purchased after June 1, 2017 will not
have access to 3rd Party Hosting.


I've asked them for clarification whether I'll have to buy an overpriced plan when the current one is up in February 2018.

But this still means that when January 1, 2019 arrives at the friendly Photobucket server, none of the image links in this thread will work.

Well, nothing lasts forever. I'm just confused at the moment whether it's worth the time to go ahead and finish Round Four.

If I decide to can it before completion, that will put me in the company of the majority of BB posters who never finish a thread! And I've already finished this one twice, technically speaking. :D

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Tonight I adjusted my expectations, and in eliminating some previously planned essays, I managed to finish the TZN and TNS Rematches!

Ahead is the final post for TNS.

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Not Quite a Remake Rematch of The Tingler (1959), Night of the Creeps (1986) & Slither (2006)
In the Cutting Room

I couldn't help but notice that the middle film in this NQRR has Robert C. New as director of photography, and Michael N. Knue as editor. If Knue is pronounced "new" then that's an amazing coincidence. Coincidence? If it's pronounced "canoe" then it isn't as much of a coincidence, but it's still cool.

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Chester W. Schaeffer (1902–1992) began his feature film editing career with The Canterville Ghost (1944). For several years he worked on short films and documentaries. By the 1950s he was going back and forth between TV work and feature film editing. In 1954 and 1955, Schaeffer edited three of the five episodes of the Davy Crockett series that appeared on the Walt Disney television program. Not only did I see them all (in black and white), but my 'rents bought me the full regalia: mocs, pants, shirt, and cap, with rifle. They must have spent a mint. Imagine what those tot-clothes would be worth nowadays if we knew where they were! Schaeffer continued to work until 1968. His last projects were The Caper of the Golden Bulls (1967) and two episodes of Lassie (TV, 1957-1968) out of 32 he completed during the run of the program. That puts his total editing screen credits on IMDb at 53.

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Michael N. Knue has a similar number of projects, 51, to date. He is still working, mosly on television episodes. But you know what they say: TV is the new cinema. His earliest editing department credit is assistant editor for an episode of 240-Robert (TV, 1979). Knue worked as the lead editor on an episode of Chicago Story (TV, 1982), but thrree years later he edited his first feature: House (1985), directed by Steve Miner, and written by Fred Dekker, who would direct Knue's next project. Following Night of the Creeps (1986), Knue's projects centered on features and TV movies. He dipped back into TV episodes in teh early 2000s, and has worked primarily in TV since, although he hasn't totally stopped working on feature films.

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John Axelrad edited a short film in 1997, and a year later graduated to features with Hairshirt (1998). Slither (2006) falls right before the current middle of his career. He edited the Amanda Seyfried vehicle Gone (2012) and is currently in post-production on a remake of Papillon (2017), his 28th editorial credit. Last year he completed The Lost City of Z (2017), and Axelrad edited a film I have seen and enjoyed (inspirational, although it isn't totally uplifting, directed by William H. Macy) called Rudderless (2014). In case you were wondering, I threw in Lost City of Z so you'd know that Axelrad also sometimes works on projects with titles longer than a single word.



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There is a date in this image that probably shows the approximate date on which all my image posts in this entire forum will be replaced by placeholders from Photobucket.

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As you can see in the signature there are 7 Rematches left to complete.

I'm not committing to completing them. Some or all might get the notification Abandoned in place of Current in their initial posts. I haven't decided whether it's worth finishing something that I can't afford to keep visible for you to read and see.

It would seem kind of stupid, wouldn't it, to complete it now? :D

As for reading, the walls of text will remain. Yes, they will. With Photobucket placeholders, possibly. Who knows?

The only thing is: I have Safari webarchives of every single page up to now, with hot links and so forth on the pages. The images are in there permanently, so I'll be able to view this as long as there is Safari for MacOS. I update them each time I add a post. If I complete the thread, y'all won't be able to see the images past a certain time, but I will be able to.

Not sure what that means to me, though. 8-)

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The decision took a lot of wrestling with myself, even though it should probably have been cut and dried. What it came down to was that there is only one person in the world who actually cares whether I finish Round Four or not. And that's YTMN.

There is no point going on when the images are going to go away because I can't afford the fee that Photobucket.com wants in order to keep them hot linkable. And who gives a flying fritter when that going away happens?

The posts already in place will remain here as long as Stephen and Nick pay for the Corrie to persist. But the thousands of images will go away when I don't pay the renewal fee for my account, causing it to revert to a free account without linking. That will happen some time around 13 Feb 2018. So, between now and then people can both read and look at the graphics that I have built. After that, it will be walls and walls of text and text with the only reprieve being possible placeholder images from Photobucket telling you that you cannot see the images. Which you will already know!

I offer this as an example of the impact my ditching of the thread will have on anyone: when Atlantic.com decided that it was sooo important for me to turn off my ad blockers, or pay them money to see their precious website without ads, I stopped reading. It hasn't affected my life a single negative bit in the subsequent months.

I'm sure the bean counters at Atlantic felt as if they had stopped yet another thief from eye-stealing their words! However, Atlantic.com still got exactly the same amount of money for me staying away! And (this is the best part) their costs were precisely the same amount! But suddenly, I had that much less to read each day, which was helpful. It allowed me more time to work on ... what I now realize was nothing but my vanity thread at the Corrie. :D Stopping the thread means I can denigrate my Photobucket account, and pay them no more money, neither a modicum nor a shitload.

This would have been my next signature:

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Round Four complete: BTM Batman -- BCH On the Beach -- BOU La Guerre des Boutons -- TZN Tarzan -- TNS Tingler/Creeps/Slither

abandoned in progress due to Photobucket extortion: 39 to go
BIC Bicycle Thieves/Beijing Bicycle 4 to go
BRH Battle Royale/Hunger Games 6 to go
BRN Tom Brown's Schooldays 2 to go
DRB Devil's Backbone/Dorm 6 to go
HEL Mayor of Hell/Crime School/Hell's Kitchen 9 to go
PAI Pinocchio/A. I. 6 to go
SKN Victim/Skin I Live In 6 to go

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But then I decided not to take up so much space, and you can see what it is now, below.


Thanks for reading! I wish a few more of you had bought some of my books, but I totally understand that the way CreateSpace is set up the books have to be way too expensive in order for me to make even 2 bucks a book. The only people who ever made any money from them was Amazon.com. I'm thinking about ditching trxbooks.com, since it costs me a couple hundred a year, and there have been no book sales since 2015. Maybe I'm in "cut your losses mode!"

Well, que sera sera.

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If you become rich and powerful, I hope that you will be cream rather than pond scum." --YTMN

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A Clarification:

Because of some posts I read at other forums concerning the Photobucket price increase, I wanted to come here and make something perfectly clear (in case you might have missed it in previous posts). I was not expecting, nor had I been getting a "free lunch" from Photobucket.

I have been paying Photobucket for three years to have 27 times the available storage as I have stored photos. Much more space than I would ever use. I paid their requested 20 bucks for two years and the requested 35 bucks for this year.

My complaint with them is not that they turned off my free ride. I hadn't ridden for free since February 2015! I pay them not for storage, but for the privilege to hot link my images stored there to my posts at The Corrierino. Over 99% of the images I store at Photobucket are exclusive to this thread. All are exclusive to The Corrie.

My complaint is that they decided for some reason I should pay them 11 times as much for a year's hot-linking as I used to.

Anyhow, I lease space on a server, and I could migrate all my images and edit all my BBcode links. But that's too fucking much work. And it would be done in vain, ultimately. So, I decided that Photobucket will not make 35 or 100 bucks from me in 2018. They will make zero. And I get the freedom of not worrying about finishing and posting the last 39 items from Round Four. :)

Plus, my rancor toward their corporation is justified. They aren't taking anything away that I wasn't already shipping them dollars for. They're just attempting to extort me for the exact same service. And they can't do that.

On balance, it seems like a fair trade to me, now.

By the way, every image except two experimental images that I loaded directly to this site, will disappear when my account vanishes in February next year. So the other thread I made that's listed in my signature will become walls of text on the same day.

Again, thanks for reading over the years.

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If you become rich and powerful, I hope that you will be cream rather than pond scum." --YTMN

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Your posts echo my own mourning (all five stages) of the last few months. I can't say it was a total surprise. We were mostly talking to ourselves in here, anyway; Photobucket was just the nail in the coffin. I admit I was a "free rider" at Photobucket, but that was the system they built, not some scam I put over on them. As it turns out, I would have gladly paid to keep my "vanity threads" running, but they're asking too much. Most of my pics at Imgur have disappeared, also, though I've scrupulously "viewed" them periodically to keep them from being deleted. Guess the rules changed while I wasn't looking.

It's the end of an era, Gort. And it was great while it lasted.

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Damm ImGUR deletes things too? What about Flickr?


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Damm ImGUR deletes things too? What about Flickr?

When I thought of starting this thread, Jedi recommended Photobucket for the major reason that they didn't compress or delete files that weren't accessed frequently enough. At the time they were free, and remained so until my monthly bandwidth usage crossed some unspecified and unknown (before the first excessive transfer of data) bandwidth limit. So I paid them for the right to hotlink photos. And did so for three years altogether.

Before this thread, I used to use ImageShack, but nearly all of the images I put up there for RottenTomatoes forums use are no longer in the old RT posts. Let's just say that last time I looked (a couple of years ago) at those threads, they all were missing some imagery!

So Jedi certainly steered me right back in 2011. He couldn't have foreseen what the wussy, detestable pervs at Photobucket would decide to do to millions of people, simply because we're not worth spit to them, could he? And his advice was correct. For as long as they weren't extraordinarily greedy beyond measure, the Photobucket links remained solid; no images disappeared.

Of course they will ALL disappear on February 13, 2018 or so! Ha HA!

Which reminds me, the non-gif avatar that I use for one of my characters is posted to Photobucket. I'd better move it here sometime. I think it's Gort's avatar that's on PB. I believe the ani-gif YTMN one is stored on the Corrie.

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The Future Unreels will also lose all its images on the same day. But just think about how many images Jedi has on Photobucket, and the other posters here.


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It's the end of an era, Gort. And it was great while it lasted.

It was big fun, wasn't it?!

I'm kind of enjoying my retirement from Remake Rematches. Are you enjoying your "freedom" as well?

I'm only playing in all that extra time I have, now. I'm not doing anything productive with the time, but since we were "mostly talking to ourselves in here, anyway," I was probably only playing before. :D

I'm still keeping track of the total views. I want to see if it still, somehow reaches 2 million. Maybe your thread will continue to be a big draw to lurkers (or web-bots) the way mine seems to be. It's still inexplicable as far as I'm concerned.

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If you become rich and powerful, I hope that you will be cream rather than pond scum." --YTMN

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I'm only playing in all that extra time I have, now. I'm not doing anything productive with the time, but since we were "mostly talking to ourselves in here, anyway," I was probably only playing before. :D
Aw. It's just my nostalgic mournfulness talking. I always read your thread!

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I'm still keeping track of the total views. I want to see if it still, somehow reaches 2 million. Maybe your thread will continue to be a big draw to lurkers (or web-bots) the way mine seems to be. It's still inexplicable as far as I'm concerned.
I honestly don't know how my thread could be a draw without pictures. Do lurkers even read?

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