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Also that moment at the end is what Spider-Man is all about.

To be clear:
You mean the finding of the bag with the spider suit, or the discovery by Aunt May, or both?

I think it's cool that the secret identity is kind of being semi-retired by the Marvel characters, or by the writers these days.
IronMan's no longer got a secret identity, and several know about who Spidey is, too.


But that sort of obviates any need for the costumes...except that the super hero is now as much the costume as it is the person inside the costume, at least
in the case of IronMan and to an extent the new Spidey.

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Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:02 am
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I meant the moment
where he saves the Vulture from dying. Spidey has always been about never letting his villains die no matter how bad they are.And the last few movies have always had Spidey letting the villains die.


Also the nice homag
e to the rubble scene from the comics. Well not a homage but more as a direct reference.


Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:12 am
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Ah, yes! I didn't think of that as at the end, but you're right. That is more typical Spidey. A return to "true form" as it were.

I think the most recent Spider Man comics I've read would be most of the compilation volumes of Ultimate Spider Man, which the local library system has, and that's been years ago.

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Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:15 am
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Ultimate Spider-Man is so good. I like that they pulled from that series as a main inspiration for this movie.


Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:25 am
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Trying this to see if the Photobucket files from a Rematch post will show up in this thread...

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And they do not. The message "It was not possible to determine the dimensions of the image. Please verify that the URL you entered is correct." comes up for each new image that is in the post.

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Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:28 am
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I saw Wrath of the Titans (2012) in the theater when it came out. I thought the 3D was awful, the story cluttered and incomprehensible, and I swore off ever seeing the remake of Clash of the Titans (1981, 2010). The first one had Bubo to un-recommend it, and the second one had a terrible sequel that did the same!

A few weeks ago, I bought the Clash Bluray 3D because it was $10. I watched it last night, and fell asleep a few times; didn't finish it. Tonight I started from the beginning, and saw the entire movie. Lord, the 3D conversion is the worst I've seen. Even worse than Wrath! I now understand why people said they hated 3D films, if this is what their experience of it was. EDIT: I just clicked on the awards page for the film at IMDb, and noticed that it was nominated for a Razzie in teh category "Worst Eye-Gouging Mis-Use of 3-D." Wow, only nominated. What film won?!!? :D

When the conversion is good, it's as good as any I've seen so far. Maybe the problem is that they spent only $10 mil converting it. Maybe the problem is that 2D-3D conversion was a new thing at the time. A lot of it is sloppy, and mimics the worst of the sync errors you see in 1950s 2-strip 3D films. Anyway, because the film was made in 2D originally, I might some time watch the 2D version that came with it.

I liked the story better than the 1981 version, by the way. The Harryhausen version has beautiful stop-motion animation throughout, but I just thought it was too childish or something when I saw it in the 1990s. Bubo! Ugh! At least he got his comeuppance in the remake. Heh heh. The trailer kept me from seeing it when I was first exposed to it in 1981. I stayed away on purpose. And that was hard to do, because I practically worshiped Harryhausen and his work.

I am aware that you love Bubo. But not all of us do. ;)

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Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:30 am
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Oh it was a rushed conversion. I think I remember them saying they didnt really spend any time on it when the movie came out. I remember reading on it and I think I watched in 3D and man was it bad. Here's from the Wiki.

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For the 2D to 3D conversion, Leterrier approached the studio early on about a 3D conversion, but it was expensive and very new technology.[20] After Avatar, the studio put pressure on Leterrier to convert the film. He was worried because of his previous concerns but was convinced after seeing the View-D conversion process.[21] Leterrier considered the 3D conversion to improve the viewing experience, and states that it should not be seen as a gimmick.[20]

In 2013 Leterrier said of the 3D conversion;

It was famously rushed and famously horrible. It was absolutely horrible, the 3D. Nothing was working, it was just a gimmick to steal money from the audience. I’m a good boy and I rolled with the punches and everything, but it’s not my movie


Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:40 pm
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I recall reading that last line in the quotation somewhere. How Leterrier said it wasn't his film. But the source I found claimed that Leterrier wanted to make the film in 3D from the start, and the studio nixed that. The second 3D "bubble" has lasted a lot longer than the one that started in 1952.

The bad 3D conversion of Clash was one of the main reasons that my source suggested for Leterrier passing on the director's chair for Wrath. Have you heard that anywhere?

A lot of the post-converted films that I've seen or have in my collection look very good. Predator looks almost as if it were shot in 3D originally.

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Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:06 am
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Dredd 3D's use of 3D is effective and enhances the storytelling.

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Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:39 am
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It does. The Slow Mo sequences really are enhanced in 3D.


Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:24 pm
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I've noticed that when a film is actually composed for the 3d effect, a lot of the composition makes no sense in 2D. As you recall, I also noticed that about the stereographs that were made in the 1860s. The first time I watched Dredd back in 2013 (March 22, to be precise), a lot of it made no story sense because the objects that are separated in space in the original version were simply flat and all pasted together.

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Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:29 pm
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Can you post a screenshot so we might compare?


Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:49 pm
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He hee. How would I post a 3D screenshot!?!!?

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Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:22 pm
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I was kind of mixed on Dredd; on one hand, much of its vision of the future was overly familiar and uninspiring, both visually and conceptually, and, except for part where an entire floor of the building got mowed down, most of the action scenes were disappointingly straightforward and stiff (it's obvious that Karl Urban or his stuntmen could barely see or move around in that visor/outfit). On the other hand, there were some interesting details in it occasionally (like Anderson's psychic abilities), and I liked how it wasn't afraid to have a realistic amount of civilian casulties in it, while still having an "anti-hero" like Dredd still care a lot about those casulties, and get pissed at them as a result, which is refreshing in this day and age, compared the toothlessness of something like The Avengers when it comes to that subject, or the utter abandon something like Man Of Steel treated it. So yeah, still kind of a mixed bag, but it had some good aspects to it.

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Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:58 am
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It is a film with hundreds of flaws. Still, I enjoyed seeing it in 3D. Not so much when I watched it in 2D four years ago. In 2D it is nothing but gun-porn. In 3D it looks interesting.

That's about all I can do to analyze it. Your analysis is quite good, and spot on, Stu.

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Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:56 am
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3D certainly enhances the experience. Like I havent watched the Owls of Gahoole again because it was breathtaking in 3D. But I dont think that'd translate well into 2D.


Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:42 pm
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The only 3D film I have watched so far where 3D didn't enhance the experience has been Clash of the Titans (the remake) because the 3D conversion is crap.

Bringing up the conv word, I have to say that most of the conversions I have watched so far are pretty well-done.

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Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:42 am
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Also Hugo. 3D version is clearly the best version. I dont know if the 2D version will be as impactful as the 3D version.


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Hugo is quite interesting in 2D. I saw it that way the first two times. But you're right, 3D just makes it snap. And you notice a lot of different items that catch the eye in 3D than those that catch the eye in 2D. Mind you, all I've done is audit the disk, watching a portion at the beginning of each chapter. But I plan to savor it in full soon.

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Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:56 am
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Scorsese shot it in 3D. So I'd like to think that's how he wanted people to experience it. But also I think he also has the right mind to think of his shots for 3D AND 2D.


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True. I can't think of anything that I recall seeing in the 2D viewing that seemed somehow mis-composed. Scorsese and his cinematographer, Robert Richardson, must have the ability to compose in both phenomena at once. Of course, basically, it just takes closing one eye! When I was shooting videos I'd often close one eye while scouting my locations to see how it would look on my TV monitor, later.

I think if a shot is composed well for 2D it should look good in 3D. I often see pictures that I'd like to snap, but then realize that without the 3D phenomenon, half of what fascinates me about the view would be lost to flatness. It takes work and experimentation to find a way to frame a 2D shot to emphasize the 3D-nature of the subject. And some photographers are good at doing that. It's the phenomenon of seemingly rendering a 2D image into transient 3D that makes moving camera shots so valuable to cinema, I think. But with stills, you lose that aspect, and have to rely on light and composition.

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