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Hey, how are you, is everybody allright tonight?

I said, is everybody allright tonight?!

After finishing up our thread on Coltrane, I proposed to Wolfy to do another and the result is this:

Wolfy and me got something to tell you
About the joys of a live soul music revue
The music that lifts up your soul
Let's all get up, get into it and get involved!

Let's chase that winter blues away
Keep that cold and darkness at bay
It doesn't matter what you do
As long as you feel good
You can just listen along
Just enjoy the gift of song
Or type up how it makes you feel
Sing or dance because it's no big deal

Wolfy and me got something to tell you
About the joys of a live soul music revue
The music that lifts up your soul
Let's all get up, get into it and get involved!

Don't fight it, feel it and move those hips
Or just watch us and take another sip
We've chosen four albums more than seven
Planned ten but this one goes to eleven
Twice a week a live soul record, see
Will be reviewed by Wolfy and me
We're gonna have a funky good time
With that sweet soul music so sublime

Wolfy and me got something to tell you
About the joys of a live soul music revue
The music that lifts up your soul
Let's all get up, get into it and get involved!

*Instrumental break*

Wolfy and me got something to tell you
About the joys of a live soul music revue
The music that lifts up your soul
Let's all get up, get into it and get involved!


Now it's time for the nitty gritty, these are the albums we've selected:

James Brown - Live At The Apollo (Oct. 1962)
Sam Cooke - Live at the Harlem Square Club (Jan. 1963)
Etta James - Rocks the House (Sep. 1963)
Otis Redding - Live in London & Paris (1967)
Curtis Mayfield - Curtis/Live (Jan. 1971)
Aretha Franklin - Aretha Live at Fillmore West (Mar. 1971)
Donny Hathaway - Live (1972)
Isaac Hayes - At Wattstax (1972)
Bill Withers - Live at Carnegie Hall (1973)
Solomon Burke - Soul Alive! (1983)
Irma Thomas - Live! Simply The Best (1991)


Wolfy and me will listen to and review two a week (on wednesdays and sundays, give or take), but would like for you all to join in the experience. Hence mp3 links will be provided in this post so everybody can easily listen along and maybe even comment. You can click on the first title above already for a link. So, now, without further ado, let's go to the Apollo and let James Brown kick it off and get this show on the road.

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Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:42 am
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yay music threads

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I thought the title meant you live here.

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Some of those artists are decent.

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Some of those artists are decent.
The others are Tebow.

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Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:08 pm
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Love, peace, and soul.

I'll have my first review up by Wednesday.


Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:24 pm
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Links for the first two albums are now in the opening post. Thought I added them in the first place before posting, but apparently I didn't.

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Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 am
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Links for the first two albums are now in the opening post. Thought I added them in the first place before posting, but apparently I didn't.

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James Brown – Live At The Apollo (recorded October 1962)


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I wanna hear you say OW!

James Brown kicks off the show with a burst of controlled intensity that has become legendary. One of the great live albums of all time and one of the first that was played on the radio in it's entirety, repeteadly, because of the sheer amount of requests. And it almost never happened! King Records didn't want to pay for a live recording, but James Brown knew his biggest strength was his live performance and paid for the recording himself. When his label heard the result, they were finally convinced.

Brown is a raw force of nature with an impeccable timing and feel for dramatics, as is evident in the way the songs segue into eachother, especially during the medley of course, in which he strings together eight songs (nine if you count the return of Please Please Me) in the course of six and a half minutes. From the start of I'll Go Crazy he whips the crowd (and the listeners at home later) into a almost religious frenzy. Even the slower songs share the same intensity, propelled by the almost screaming singing style of Brown. Lost Someone is our first example of the “workout” song, a live soul performance that stretches a normally shorter song to a (relatively) enormous length. Usually these are slow to midtempo songs that, it's not about instrumental improvisation but about the singer's performance, which often features a lot of repetition geared towards an emotional climax. A call and response pattern is also common, and includes a lot of interaction with the audience. Done right it is a highlight of the show, as is Lost Someone. Which also makes clear that although we shouldn't forget the great band he works with, including right hand man Bobby Byrd, Brown is a bandleader in control of every aspect of his show.

If this live album has one shortcoming, it's that it's too short. Clocking just over an half our (the CD version is longer, but it includes several single versions of the same songs), it's a truncated version of the real show. If only the record company had saved the complete show... not that it's that much longer, after all this performance is the climax of an evening that included performances by someone, Solomon Burke, Freddie King and comedian someone. Thanks to this record, the conclusion of that night can be relived though, over and over again. It's gonna be hard for the rest of the records Wolfy and me selected to top this one. If you want more live James Brown, I recommend Live at Chastain Park and Live in Paris, both from the early 1970s, that showcase his funk period in full effect.

The next album is Sam Cooke – Live At The Harlem Square Club, and the link for that has been in the opening post since Monday.

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James Brown- Live at the Apollo

I love his back-up band name, The Famous Flames! Ok, now onto the review. Every time I hear this album, I always enjoy it more. Brown was right when he thought his true talents are on stage and made this album. His voice cannot be topped here. He has such energy that you can't help but bop your head along. As Kurz said, I do wish it was a little longer.

4.5/5

I wish I could write more but the Dutch man is better with words. I will write more in the next review as I like it more than this album. *runs*


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I just wanted a grand opening. :P

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Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:28 am
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:heart: 's me some James Brown.


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Listened to that James Brown album a few minutes ago. Might try listening to all of these albums as you guys do it just for shits and giggles

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I just wanted a grand opening. :P

It is considered a classic so good first pick!

I do want to listen to Live at the Apollo Vol. II now.


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I have that on LP. At the time I thought I was buying the first though.

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Sad news about a legend that we are going to get to later.
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Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:34 am
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So that's why she announced she had made her last album. :(

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While we're all twisting the night away, links for next week are up.

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Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:03 am
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I wish I could participate more in this thread, but I really don't like live albums.


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Von Samuel wrote:
I wish I could participate more in this thread, but I really don't like live albums.

But...but...one that's probably in my top 5 live albums is coming up later today...


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Von Samuel wrote:
I wish I could participate more in this thread, but I really don't like live albums.

Why not?

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But...but...one that's probably in my top 5 live albums is coming up later today...

Oh, I'm reading, but I don't have much to add.

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Why not?

I kind of compare it to if a director decided to make his film into a stage play. Both would be acceptable, but I prefer the controlled aesthetics, and result of labor of a studio album to a live album.


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Like there's no control over aesthetics or labor in a live album? :?

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Like there's no control over aesthetics or labor in a live album? :?

Not nearly as much. Like I said, it's the difference between a film and a play.


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I'd much rather listen to a studio record as well.

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Some artists/bands are even better live.


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Some artists/bands are even better live.

I agree.


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Some of the posts in this thread strike me as altogether too broad.

Sam Cooke's live albums is completely phenomenal, the man's interaction with the audience, and his energy is completely wonderful.


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I wish I could participate more in this thread, but I really don't like live albums.


Live albums bring out the best in bands. Compare the recorded version of Born to Run with any live Springsteen renditions. The difference in quality is night and day.

That's just one example among many. Pink Floyd, Rush, Bob Seger, et al are much better performing live, IMO.

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Live albums bring out the best in bands. Compare the recorded version of Born to Run with any live Springsteen renditions. The difference in quality is night and day.
I'm not sure, they've started playing it just a tad slower since the reunion of '99. It's less intense ever since.

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I'd rather be buried alive than listen to Bob Seger.


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I'm not sure, they've started playing it just a tad slower since the reunion of '99. It's less intense ever since.


Just compare "Thunder Road" from the studio album to the 1975 Odeon concert we've talked about before. There really is no comparison.

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Just compare "Thunder Road" from the studio album to the 1975 Odeon concert we've talked about before. There really is no comparison.

I was talking about "Born To Run" specifically, and how I prefer the album version over the live version of the last 12 years. But in general Bruce live is my heaven.

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I was talking about "Born To Run" specifically, and how I prefer the album version over the live version of the last 12 years. But in general Bruce live is my heaven.


Got it. I should have specified live versions done within a few years of the album release.

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I'd rather be buried alive than listen to Bob Seger.


Does swapping Metallica for Seger serve my point better? They also sounded better live. At least from the late '80s to the mid-'90s.

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Got it. I should have specified live versions done within a few years of the album release.

Actually, a lot of the songs have lost nothing over the years. Just that one, compared, say to that '75 Odeon version or something. The 2000 Live in NY version of Badlands is still great, for instance.

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The 2000 Live in NY version of Badlands is still great, for instance.
That concert was the first time I had listened to Springsteen.

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Live albums bring out the best in bands. Compare the recorded version of Born to Run with any live Springsteen renditions. The difference in quality is night and day.

That's just one example among many. Pink Floyd, Rush, Bob Seger, et al are much better performing live, IMO.

Some people really like the sound of a live album, others don't. I normally don't, though there is always the exception.

And I agree with Wolfy on Bob Seger.


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Some people really like the sound of a live album, others don't. I normally don't, though there is always the exception.
In this genre and time, a live soul album represents the genre and the artist more truthfully than the cobbled together albums made in service of the single market. In fact, one of the reasons that James Brown couldn't get his record company to agree with him about making a live album is that "album sales aren't much anyway, and don't get radioplay." In a genre and culture where call and response is such a big part of the music (it's even in the rhythms and melodies of jazz, blues and ultimately also soul/R&B), a live album can bring that out in the open by interaction with the audience (not to say that interaction with the audience is good by definition, mind you). And performance is also very important to this genre, much more than content. Which is also different in a live setting than a studio. Finally, there can be a great level of intimacy and relationship on a live album that can never be achieved in a studio. Case in point: the album that me and Wolfy were supposed to review yesterday, but now I guess will be doing today. Have you listened to it? It's such a revelation of Sam Cooke if you only know his studio work, or even his other live album, all of which is more geared towards a larger (white) audience.

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Four months later (the ghettoes are in flames. Wait, wrong song) after the recording of the first album on our list, we go down to Miami, to hear:

Sam Cooke - Live at the Harlem Square Club (Jan. 1963)

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This is the record that inspired this topic, more than anything. When I heard it the first time, it was a shock to my system – not only was this a very different Sam Cooke from the one I knew from his studio recordings, a much rawer, livelier and sweatier Sam Cooke, it made me feel an intense sense of joy that felt so wonderful I wanted to share this with the world. I was listening to it on my way to university, and came very close to walking into a class singing along or even clamping onto a stranger in between the train and the class to tell them to listen to it.

Such is the power of soul stirrer Sam Cooke and his gospel fervor. But he was no longer preaching the lord in 1963, his religion was love and music. His studio recordings were always sweet and soft, often backed up by strings. Beautiful, but nothing like this. This is the real Sam Cooke, stripped from commercial interests and preoccupied with his art and his audience. His voice is pretty as ever, but there is a rarely heard raw edge to it. The way he improvises lines to stir up the people is incredible, from the opening song Feel It (Don't Fight It), and the heavenly music never stops there.

I could list highlights, but that'd be all but two songs. Even so*, the romantic medley in the middle never fails to get to me a little bit more than the rest. The way he leads into It's All Right and then segues into For Sentimental Reasons and making it all part of one sermon on how to woo a lady is just amazing. And at the moment I forget which song it is, but the time he works a few lines of You Send Me into another song also sends chills down my spine. And then Having A Party is the perfect closer. If this album is not a masterpiece by a master of his art at the top of his ability, I don't know what is. Oh, and in my first review I said James Brown would be hard to top, but I guess that wasn't exactly fair – I already knew this would top it. Now I do feel it'll be very hard for anyone to top this one though.


*Man, I whish I could use the Dutch word 'desalniettemin' there, which more perfectly conveys the way I want to start the sentence than anything in English I can think of. This will do though.

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Sorry, my computer was giving me shit yesterday and I was doing a Harvey Birdman marathon. So I'll review it very soon.


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Sam Cooke- Live at the Harlem Club, 1963

"Bruce Eder of Allmusic writes "It's one of the greatest soul records ever cut by anybody, outshining James Brown's first live album from the Apollo Theater."" I AGREE.

I first heard this last year because it was on the Rolling Stone top 500 albums list and I was grateful to them for putting it on there. Much like James Brown (and Otis Redding), he is better on stage. He was in his element on this record. His interaction with the audience I love. He didn't have the nickname as, The King of Soul, for nothing. As Kurz said, "Having A Party", is the best closer and it is a 40 minute masterpiece.

I always learn something reading Kurz reviews. He must read a hundred bio's before writing. I didn't know he was a preacher but that makes a whole lot of sense with the way he can command your attention and the way he sings things so clearly.

God, why couldn't I have been alive in the 60's?

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He wasn't a preacher but he sang gospel for years before he went secular. Which he of course learned in church.

The info on JB I mostly got from the liner notes, but the Cooke biography info I remember from I did a top 20 soul artists in high school. But not on the internet, no I had several evenings of listening 'parties' with whoever was interested/indulged me.

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In this genre and time, a live soul album represents the genre and the artist more truthfully than the cobbled together albums made in service of the single market. In fact, one of the reasons that James Brown couldn't get his record company to agree with him about making a live album is that "album sales aren't much anyway, and don't get radioplay." In a genre and culture where call and response is such a big part of the music (it's even in the rhythms and melodies of jazz, blues and ultimately also soul/R&B), a live album can bring that out in the open by interaction with the audience (not to say that interaction with the audience is good by definition, mind you). And performance is also very important to this genre, much more than content. Which is also different in a live setting than a studio. Finally, there can be a great level of intimacy and relationship on a live album that can never be achieved in a studio. Case in point: the album that me and Wolfy were supposed to review yesterday, but now I guess will be doing today. Have you listened to it? It's such a revelation of Sam Cooke if you only know his studio work, or even his other live album, all of which is more geared towards a larger (white) audience.

I understand all of this. It is just a preference, I don't typically like live albums, unless it is Jazz. Jazz is the only genre I prefer live albums to studio albums.


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It's still 1963 and the summer has come and gone. It's star time again (they say that a lot to announce these singers), with the queen of Chess records doing the duty in Nashville, Tennessee at the New Era Club:

Etta James - Rocks the House (Sep. 1963)

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This is more of a mix of R&B and blues than pure soul, not that I mind. Etta James is another force of nature with a fierce voice putting modern R&B singers to shame. Beyonce played in her in a movie about the rise and fall of Chess, and as a result got to perform James' signature tune At Last for the president, something which irked James to no end since she felt she herself was the proper candidate for that job. Comparing even the studio version of James' At Last to the live version of Beyonce, she's got a point. She doesn't sing At Last here though. She does great versions of What I'd Say, Money (That's What I Want), Ooh Poo Pah Doo and of her own songs like Something's Got A Hold On Me. The blues pops up in Baby What You Want Me To Do and I Just Want To Make Love To You, but it all fits into one organic whole called Etta James. This is no contender for the crown of Cooke, but it's fine on it's own nonetheless.

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Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:05 am
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Can a brotha get some Nina Simone? Although she technically isn't considered "soul".


Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:23 am
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Yeah, that's why she's not on the marquee. Also made it easier not to have to choose from the many live albums she made.

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Etta James Rocks the House

That Beyonce story is hysterical and makes me think Etta James is awesome even more. I like this much more than her At Last album. "What I'd Say" is one of the best covers ever! She seems to have preformed a lot of Jimmy Reed songs around that time, which I will now make it a point to listen to some Jimmy Reed. This isn't as good Sam Cooke's but it is still fantastic. Her voice is as powerful as Aretha Franklin's and I'd recommend this to anyone.

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