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Anyone want to watch this movie with me?

Sign up by posting your name here. If you haven't seen this film - Alfréd Radok's Distant Journey - watch it at any point in the next week and post your reactions any time on Saturday the 12th of January in your respective time zone. No dissertations expected but it would be nice to do something like this together!

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:29 am
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its january but ill hop on board why not

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:30 am
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eep, edited

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:31 am
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why not

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I will do my best to participate but I might be out drinking on that day.

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:33 am
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Sure.

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:33 am
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I will do my best to participate but I might be out drinking on that day.


Watch it in the morning! The KG rip is only 98 minutes.

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:33 am
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I was gonna make a bad time travel or Taylor Swift joke, but you edited already. I'll participate in your reindeer games.

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:34 am
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A full week to watch it? Can do.


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I'll watch it.


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Watch it in the morning! The KG rip is only 98 minutes.


The Netflix disc is ten minutes longer.

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Watch it in the morning! The KG rip is only 98 minutes.


Okay sounds good!

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:36 am
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A full week to watch it? Can do.


Let's all watch it on the 12th so we each have the same amount of time to form our opinions.

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:39 am
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Let's watch it whenever we want so that this thread doesn't fail.


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Let's do a suicide pact thread instead actually

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Let's watch it whenever we want so that this thread doesn't fail.

This - Just post them on the 12th so discussion's easy to spark.


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If everyone supports that idea, sure

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I'm in.

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I want ribfist and Bry and rouge to do this

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and when you rouge it, Evil will come

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In more ways than one :shifty:

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Will shifty smalley be taking part

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Will shifty smalley be taking part

Probably not by the Jan 12th deadline set in here, but I may Netflix it soon, and watch later.

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Anyone else interested in taking part?

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Don't forget to do this!

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I've been upping my ratio on KG so I can watch this!

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It is also on Netflix, apparently

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It is also on Netflix, apparently


You can get it on DVD from Netflix, but can't stream it. I already have a DVD on the way to my house, so I wouldn't be able to watch it and send it back to get Distant Journey in time. I don't mind downloading it from KG though.

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I'll be posting my thoughts tomorrow. Hope everyone's watched the film!

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Watching this tonight.

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Watching this tonight.

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This is perhaps the first European film to depict the reality of the Holocaust after the end of WWII. Almost directly after its release it was declared undesirable under a new censorship system and was banned/abandoned until the early 90s.

There's a lot to like here but a lot that just does not work. Alfréd Radok (who exiled himself from Czechoslovakia soon after the film premiered) is a formal gadfly, attacking his themes from every angle, juxtaposing a fictionalised portrait of life in the Therezin concentration camp with documentary footage of the Nazis' rise to power and their atrocities during the war. There's incessant camera movement, dutch angles galore, rapid editing alongside long takes and a feverish soundscape that blends a bombastic score with sounds from the Therezin tumult which are fetishised, blown out and repeated over and over, turning physical threat, torture, death and starvation into an illustration of a collective psychology. Radok's Therezin is a superbly detailed, explorable setting, as mazelike and recursive as Duvivier's casbah. However his style is so hyperactive and his mise-en-scène so busy that it only really gels in these camp scenes, where the throngs of people and the hysterical, paranoid tenor of life interact to turn something like the powerful final scene (where a girl bangs on a broken piano to signal the approach of liberating forces to her fellow inmates) into an overwhelming spectacle. And there are piquant quiet moments, too - particularly one where the patriarch of a Jewish family sits, shrouded in cigar smoke, before escaping the camera's gaze and jumping from an open window. However for every moment where Radok's structural tics work there's a moment where they simply don't, such as a passage in a pawn shop where an old man descends into madness while wearing a sheet of Star of David patches like a shroud, or a moment where a husband looks for his wife in her medical clinic, efforts to amp up the terror she feels as she hears what she thinks are Gestapo footsteps fall totally flat, as close-ups of syringes, hanging lamps and table corners are eclipsed by the horribly melodramatic score.

Really, the narrative he sets up, between the eye doctor and her Gentile husband, dissolves into myriad vaguely-defined subplots so early on that it might well have not existed in the first place. You get the feeling there's supposed to be some sort of character(s)-study in here but it is given short shrift and is essentially drowned out by the clamour of narrative voices in the second half. And the incorporation of documentary footage is interesting but works against the successful development of an emotional core in the fiction passages, especially when the final shot of each 'chapter' is minimised and set against the newsreel in a bizarre use of split screen.

There's some fantastic scenes here but I think the entire thing collapses into itself a bit. I wish there were more of a narrative and stylistic throughline, although this is still a candy store of filmmaking innovation and quite entertaining.

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This is perhaps the first European film to depict the reality of the Holocaust after the end of WWII.

I've read it didn't come that close to reality. But, I shall never know for sure.

How did picture in picture never catch on? Hah.

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There's some fantastic scenes here but I think the entire thing collapses into itself a bit. I wish there were more of a narrative and stylistic throughline, although this is still a candy store of filmmaking innovation and quite entertaining.

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I wouldn't mind the picture-in-picture so much had they not done it at the end of every scene which I think really dulled the impact of a lot of individual moments. It was just awkward.

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A cut would probably be more impactful, but I won't knock him for trying to spice it up.

While it is all quite visually captivating, I'm not convinced the form and content mesh that well. It does get muddled, narratively and tonally. And dutch angles tend to end up more entertaining than emotional, but that too has its own appeal.


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This guy seems like he should have been born 20 years earlier so he could make silent films. A lot of this is a very silent aesthetic, especially the "freedom!" scene.

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This guy seems like he should have been born 20 years earlier so he could make silent films. A lot of this is a very silent aesthetic, especially the "freedom!" scene.

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Watching this tonight.
Ditto. Not reading anything till I've seen it...

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This guy seems like he should have been born 20 years earlier so he could make silent films. A lot of this is a very silent aesthetic, especially the "freedom!" scene.

Yeah, there is minimal dialogue anyway. Just ditch the early exposition scenes.


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There's some fantastic scenes here but I think the entire thing collapses into itself a bit. I wish there were more of a narrative and stylistic throughline, although this is still a candy store of filmmaking innovation and quite entertaining.
I can't argue with this. It feels like an educational film that aspires to be two or three other things as well, but without fully succeeding. The weakest part, strangely enough, was Hanka's family drama. Also, the sound/music was inexplicable much of the time, and not in a good way. I sort of liked that grotesque dance with the yellow cloth in the junk shop, but, as with so many other things, it was an interesting piece that didn't quite fit into the whole. (Was that the ghost of the junk dealer on the typhus train? Why?) The crosses at the end were interesting.

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I watched it, and my first reaction was that snapper was being too harsh on it. Then I realised that I agreed with some of the points he made, most notably that the two examples given of unsuccessful sequences were, indeed, unsuccessful, or at least significantly less successful than parts like the suicide scene, which I arrived here to declare to be the best scene in the film.

The only narrative-related thought that I had while watching this was that the film should really have been longer. I like its varied focus, but it's hard to cover this much stuff in 90 minutes without compromising something, thus prompting much pining for a clearer thread. Not on my part though, since I didn't care all that much. I also liked the split-screen thing, which was interesting and unexpected and compromised nothing.


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Was planning on watching it this morning, but got off of work late so now I won't have time. Will try to watch tonight, although I'll most likely be drunk, so I don't know how well that will work out. If not will definitely watch tomorrow.

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Thanks for taking part Circus Freak! I do think it ought to have been longer. There's so many moments that could have been incredibly powerful were they given some time and space to breath and develop properly - thinking of the girl being kicked into the mud by the guard for example, or the children believing they've been led into a gas chamber. They're rushed (and 'boxed in' by the chapter-heading split screen thing) and are a lot less effective as a result. I would have also liked to have seen more of the female Jewish camp warden. She's one of the few cynical characters in the bunch and I found her and her actress quite interesting.

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I watched it as well and while I agree with Maiden (and others) that the family drama felt underdeveloped to me and the music choices were indeed, weird and so overdone at times, I thought... the amount of stuff he tries stylistically still won me over. It's so earnest and feels so sincerely made... so angry even. And I liked the split screens also. And I really liked the doc footage. Also, quite a few great images.

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Anyone else as taken with the ending as I was? The banging of the piano to rouse the sleeping inmates is pure Eisenstein.

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Re: the family drama - yeah, if you're going to let it peter out like that, why have it in the first place? There's some tension developed by the whole 'will they get back to each other' thing but in the final 20 minutes the husband character is completely forgotten, no? And Hanka somehow (offscreen) gets a job taking care of the typhus patients and we're suddenly supposed to consider this a vital part of her character arc despite being told and shown absolutely nothing - and she becomes a part of the crowd in the end. It makes me feel like some stuff must have been cut.

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Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:25 am
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This might be what you're looking for:

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Daleká cesta, however, is only a fragment of Radok's original intentions. He based his film on an idea by Erik Kolár who knew Terezín as a prisoner during the war. Together they wanted to show the evil not only "in the others" (ie on the Nazi side); they also endeavoured to show the evil also "in us," in hidden or open Czech anti-Semitism.

From these original intentions, only a very small number of scenes and characters remained in the film. Of the surviving parts of this vision, there is a very minor character of a caretaker who shamelessly steals Jewish possessions and the character of the groom's father who represents everyday non-aggressive anti-Semitism (he is absent at his son's wedding). In the original screenplay, Radok and Kolár wanted, for example, to compare the scene when the German students watch the execution of Jewish professors in Berlin with the scene in which Czech nationalist students fight people sympathizing with the Jews. It is very probable that Communist censorship didn't agree with this type of insight into domestic anti-Semitism.

http://www.ce-review.org/01/20/kinoeye20_cieslar.html


Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:23 am
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Good article. The idea that a lot was cut (or otherwise prevented) makes sense. And it mentions that surreal thread with the junk dealer:

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Such metaphorical scenes can be seen as ceremonies or rites in the centre of the melodramatic plot. Their protagonists take on symbolic features when the meaning or significance of the moment and situation increases. The number of these symbolic scenes naturally rises in the second part of the film set in Terezín. The scenes where a Jewish "band" on a funeral coach is playing to the steps of Jews going in the rain at night to the transport to the east comes to mind.

Is the film Hungarian or Czech, though?

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The film is Czech.

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