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Did anyone else watch the animated short nominees?

MKS has written about them in Recently Seen, I think.


Holy hell, are the Oscars tomorrow? Fffffff


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First Man indeed was molten mediocrity.
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It seems like the Academy gets more and more boring every year.


They got rid of the host, maybe they can kick it back to the old days of just announcing a list of winners, and shots of actors mingling and sharing finger foods.

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The Independent Spirit Awards seem like such a more worthy estimate of 2018 than the Oscar nominations, even if that means having to shed off some of the international films (squeezing Roma and The Favourite into a single category, and still ignoring Cold War and Zama, but at least picking up Burning). The show is also not immune to shrill politics, as the anti-Netflix fervor shows. (More people saw Roma exactly because of Netflix, and maybe that access is a good thing!)

Beale Street (the Spirit winner) and Sorry to Bother You (First Feature winner) seem like much more brave choices than Black Panther, and, given the ill-advised attempt to establish a 'Popular Film' category, the latter appears to be more of a concession to its box office success, a feigned attempt to claim the pulse of America or a cheap ploy to drive up Oscar ratings (haha, good luck!). And I keep reading (like in the AA Dowd piece) that Spike Lee has to to win for something, not based on BlackKklansman's worthiness (it certainly deserved some noms) but based more on what Spike is owed for past snubs. It's this political aspect of the Oscars (which is nothing new for them) that makes it very irrelevant to celebrating the films themselves that are actually on the screen. Another Oscar prognostication article was pitting Black Panther's empowerment against Roma's Mexican working class, like it's some kind of minority rumble. It never mentioned or discussed the respective merits of either film, only guessing which interest the Academy will feel like championing that night.

Films like Beale Street, Sorry to Bother You, Eighth Grade, You Were Never Really Here, Leave No Trace, Madeline's Madeline are the kinds of films that make the year more exciting, and I don't buy the excuse that "no one saw them" (who saw The Wife? other than MKS?) so therefore we can't have another Oscar show for elitist art house types. Much like the out-of-touch Academy of the 60s, their voting on popularity is a cheap resort to losing relevance with the bubbling vanguard.


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sorry I got in a fight at your black panther party

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Hey, was she just crying about something? Sorry guys, I had the sound turned off.

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Hey, was she just crying about something? Sorry guys, I had the sound turned off.

She lost the pool for first “Border Wall” reference. The winner had 1:12


Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:01 am
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She lost the pool for first “Border Wall” reference. The winner had 1:12


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The Oscar's are tonight?

This is the first year I can remember where I have no idea what was even nominated.

Go Black Panther???

Deadpool 2???


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Well, we'll always have Borat.

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I guess Bale shouldn't have yelled at that lighting guy

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LOLOLOLOLOL

They did that on purpose.

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Wow. Green Book? Did anyone see that coming?


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Wow. Green Book? Did anyone see that coming?
It’s no “Crash”, that’s for sure...


Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:30 pm
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It’s no “Crash”, that’s for sure...

Yeah, it is.

Driving Mr. Crash and Crasher


Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:31 pm
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I think my least favorite part of that mound of cow muffins was Wayne and Garth regurgitating their tired old shtick. It's like they had a bet to out-embarrass Adam Levine in their shameless nostalgia-groping.


Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:34 pm
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Fucking... GREEN BOOK? Your country is a hot mess


Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:46 pm
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Quite a turnaround considering Movie 43 won the Razzie a mere 5 years ago.

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Quite a few surprizes :shock:

Best Picture:

“Green Book”

Director:

Alfonso Cuarón, “Roma”

Actor:

Rami Malek, “Bohemian Rhapsody”

Actress:

Olivia Colman, “The Favourite”

Supporting Actor:

Mahershala Ali, “Green Book”

Supporting Actress:

Regina King, “If Beale Street Could Talk”

Original Screenplay:

“Green Book”

Adapted Screenplay:

“BlackKklansman”

Foreign Language Film:

“Roma”

Animated Feature:

“Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse”

Sound Editing:

“Bohemian Rhapsody”

Visual Effects:

“First Man”

Film Editing:


“Bohemian Rhapsody”

Animated Short:


“Bao”

Live Action Short:

“Skin”

Documentary Short:

“Period. End of Sentence.”

Original Score:


“Black Panther”

Original Song:

“Shallow” from “A Star Is Born”

Production Design:


“Black Panther”

Cinematography:


“Roma”

Costume Design:

“Black Panther”

Makeup and Hairstyling:


“Vice”

Documentary Feature:

“Free Solo”

Sound Mixing:

“Bohemian Rhapsody”


Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:42 pm
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Well I don't have to bother watching the Best Picture winner this year.

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Wow. Green Book? Did anyone see that coming?

Yup, this is what I was expecting to win. I watched it last night, btw. It's, really not good. I guess the Academy is continuing their tradition of celebrating mediocrity.


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Being sober now, I cant remember a year where I saw fewer nominees. Happy that Spider-man ITTSV won animated film, though I enjoyed Isle of Dogs. I figured something else might win BP because of Roma winning Foreign language and director for Cuaron. Bale losing was just funny for some reason. I didn't realize a Farrelly brother directed GB. I'll see it eventually to complete the BP winners list.

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Yeah, it is.

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I remember DMD being one of maybe a handful of BP winners that I just didn't like not even counting the other nominees it was up against that year.

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Wow. Green Book? Did anyone see that coming?


I called it months ago and had it on my party ballot to win (not that I wanted it to). However, aside from Rami, I didn’t see all the BR and BP wins coming. Or Free Solo.


Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:18 pm
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I haven't seen Green Book (and probably never will lol) but it sounds less like Driving Miss Daisy than In the Heat of the Night with the whole "racist working-class white guy learning to be less racist thanks to dignified black guy's exceptional dignity".


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"racist working-class white guy learning to be less racist thanks to dignified black guy's exceptional dignity".


Yep


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Thank God for Desus and Mero.

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I have no follow-up. I got drunk and watched Fyre instead.


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I have no follow-up. I got drunk and watched Fyre instead.

What was your favorite scene and why was it when the guy tried to get a tanker truck of water out of customs?


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Thank God for Desus and Mero.
I preferred this one, personally:


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What was your favorite scene and why was it when the guy tried to get a tanker truck of water out of customs?

I had gotten clued in on that scene from watching it referenced at the Independent Spirits the day before. Dude's a trooper, I guess, but I'm not sure why he wasn't curious about whose idea it was (certainly wasn't the customs official!).

I'd say the biggest jaw-drop belly laugh was
the unexpected Chuck Schumer connection
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The most satisfying laugh was imagining who would portray Billy McFarland in the inevitable Hollywood dramatization....
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Now, I understand that there's a competing Fyre doc on Hulu, right? And I've heard that one of them is supposed to be more sympathetic than the other. Surely, the Netflix one is not the sympathetic one, but if it is, I'm going to have to watch both, because wtf?


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This is a mostly just a mildly paraphrased re-posting of something I responded to a Facebook friend with recently (someone who still posts here, even!), but I put so much time into writing it, I figured I might as well share it here as well: in the wake of Black Panther's win for Costume Design, regarding any perceived pandering on its part to African-American audiences with its costuming's undeniable grabbag of pan-African aesthetics, on the one hand, it's a fair point on its own merits, but on the other, I didn't find myself caring all that much, as, besides the basic fact that I personally enjoyed the look of the costumes in BP, the ways that Ruth Carter already updated traditional continental fashions with the Afrofuturistic touches, and the obvious difficulties of conceiving a more "original" look for a completely fictious, geographically vague, impossibly advanced society that exists on a contemporary continent (so how much influence, if any, should the fashions of Wakanda take from real African nations?), you should compare the overall characterization of Wakanda to the typical portrayal in American media of any random sub-Saharan country, which tends to go heavy on modern "dark continent" cliches like blood diamonds, terrorist groups, child soldiers/regional warlords, and other tired tropes, which, while they are real problems that the region faces and that the film does acknowledge, Black Panther also very justifiably uses the opportunity of its comic book reality to subvert those stereotypes and portray an African nation as being an actual, perfect, impossibly advanced utopia, and in the process of doing so, spends time sending cinematic love letters to the unique beauty of indigenous African fashions, fashions that are almost never explored at all in any remotely mainstream Hollywood film, let alone in a blockbuster MCU tentpole. Given the opportunity and Hollywood's iffy history on Africa, I can't say I blame Ruth Carter for having done so (and like I said, I also just enjoyed the costuming on a basic level, so there's that).

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Stu wrote:
This is a mostly just a mildly paraphrased re-posting of something I responded to a Facebook friend with recently (someone who still posts here, even!), but I put so much time into writing it, I figured I might as well share it here as well: in the wake of Black Panther's win for Costume Design, regarding any perceived pandering on its part to African-American audiences with its costuming's undeniable grabbag of pan-African aesthetics, on the one hand, it's a fair point on its own merits, but on the other, I didn't find myself caring all that much, as, besides the basic fact that I personally enjoyed the look of the costumes in BP, the ways that Ruth Carter already updated traditional continental fashions with the Afrofuturistic touches, and the obvious difficulties of conceiving a more "original" look for a completely fictious, geographically vague, impossibly advanced society that exists on a contemporary continent (so how much influence, if any, should the fashions of Wakanda take from real African nations?), you should compare the overall characterization of Wakanda to the typical portrayal in American media of any random sub-Saharan country, which tends to go heavy on modern "dark continent" cliches like blood diamonds, terrorist groups, child soldiers/regionl warlords, and other tired tropes, which, while they are real problems that the region faces and that the film does acknowledge, Black Panther also very justifiably uses the opportunity of its comic book reality to subvert those stereotypes and portray an African nation as being an actual, perfect, impossibly advanced utopia, and in the process of doing so, spends time sending cinematic love letters to the unique beauty of indigenous African fashions, fashions that are almost never explored at all in any remotely mainstream Hollywood film, let alone in a blockbuster MCU tentpole. Given the opportunity and Hollywood's iffy history on Africa, I can't say I blame Ruth Carter for having done so (and like I said, I also just enjoyed the costuming on a basic level, so there's that).

I'm kinda baffled by any questioning of Ruth Carter's win. I thought she was a stone-cold lock.


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I haven't seen Green Book (and probably never will lol) but it sounds less like Driving Miss Daisy than In the Heat of the Night with the whole "racist working-class white guy learning to be less racist thanks to dignified black guy's exceptional dignity".

AND teaches him how to eat fried-chicken, suh.


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I had gotten clued in on that scene from watching it referenced at the Independent Spirits the day before. Dude's a trooper, I guess, but I'm not sure why he wasn't curious about whose idea it was (certainly wasn't the customs official!).

I'd say the biggest jaw-drop belly laugh was
the unexpected Chuck Schumer connection
.

The most satisfying laugh was imagining who would portray Billy McFarland in the inevitable Hollywood dramatization....
Image


Now, I understand that there's a competing Fyre doc on Hulu, right? And I've heard that one of them is supposed to be more sympathetic than the other. Surely, the Netflix one is not the sympathetic one, but if it is, I'm going to have to watch both, because wtf?

I watched the Hulu one (Fyre Fraud) and it makes for a solid companion film, filling in a lot of the gaps left by the Netflix one while skirting past a lot of the best material in the Netflix one as well. This one started off more sympathetic but actually gets fairly confrontational towards the end. I think any attempt to find bias in favor of Billy is pretty unfounded.

For playing Billy, I say either Grant Guston or Max Greenfield.


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