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Edge of Tomorrow was a lot of fun, even though it borrows so much from Source Code and even Groundhog Day. I pretty much agree with your whole assessment, including the weakness of the last act.

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Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:59 am
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I think Netflix has The Bye Bye Man. Might watch it if I gets me bored.


Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:25 am
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Edge of Tomorrow

But at times, particularly close to the end, it does start to run out of its "parlor tricks". Not helping is the issue that Cage's J Company cohorts are barely two dimensional, unable to have more than little ciphers here and there.
Perhaps it would have been better if it had been 20 minutes shorter or had a better third act.
Still, watching Tom Cruise get beat up by mechanical arms is good for several chuckles.

I think that sums up my reaction to the film pretty well.


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It reads like Fabfunk's LiveJournal page.


Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:05 am
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Got any movies on 'Mammal Exchange', you commies?


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It reads like Fabfunk's LiveJournal page.
Fabfunk?

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Got any movies on 'Mammal Exchange', you commies?


I think the Trump thread is that-a-way.


Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:49 am
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It reads like Fabfunk's LiveJournal page.


I'm open to hear other people and their film experiences.

Comparing me to Fabfunk, even in passing, does seem like a low blow. For shame, Janson, for shame.


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I think Netflix has The Bye Bye Man. Might watch it if I gets me bored.


God, I hope not. I think you'd be better off watching just about anything else.


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I'm open to hear other people and their film experiences.

Comparing me to Fabfunk, even in passing, does seem like a low blow. For shame, Janson, for shame.

I'm pretty sure you caught sight of the Russian bots before they were deleted, so stop acting all achy-breaky about it.


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I'm pretty sure you caught sight of the Russian bots before they were deleted, so stop acting all achy-breaky about it.


I saw them in other threads, but I don't remember them in this particular one.


Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:01 am
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I saw them in other threads, but I don't remember them in this particular one.

The post was here pretty much all of Thursday and Friday. It was an intriguing list of various permutations of porn selections. I remember "granny licking" at one point, but it all just melted together like some kind of froth-fleshed fever. It's easy to chain together random words from third party Pornhub search requests.


Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:45 pm
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If you say it was there, Janson, I can't disagree with you. I was basing my thoughts on a cursory glance, but who knows what I was doing on Thursday or Friday?

OK, Friday night. Saw film number 13 for 2018 already. Yet another classic one.

Sunset Boulevard

Joe Gillis (William Holden) is about to give up on his writing dreams in Hollywood and move back to Ohio. But first, he has to elude two people trying to repo his car. His car gets a flat and he's just able to get it to an empty garage in a deserted mansion.

Just then, he gets called up by silent film star Norma Desmond (Gloria Swanson). She mistakenly believes that he's there to deliver a coffin for a dead monkey. But once they get that cleared up, she asks his opinion on her big comeback...a version of Salome which she wrote with herself as the lead, natch. Joe realizes the script is terrible, but he lands a job as a script doctor to fix it.

He ends up having his things moved to the mansion where he learns from butler Max (Erich von Stroheim) that he writes her fan mail and refuses to reveal the truth about her faded star due to her probably not accepting it well (depression, suicide attempts).

While Joe is OK with Norma treating him with suits and cigarette cases, what happens when he realizes that Norma has feelings for him? And what happens when a chance series of meetings with a script reader (Nancy Olson) to work on one of Joe's scripts threatens to complicate things with both his friend Artie (Jack Webb!) and Norma?

Film works as a character study of two people driven together thanks to desperate circumstances. Both of whom are operating under severe delusions and aren't willing to face the facts.

I've heard some people consider this to be film noir. I'm not fully convinced

Even though some grim things happen, particularly in the second half, I never got the impression that Joe's fallen for Norma.
Also, I'm unaware that any crimes have been committed until the end. Both of which I'd consider more or less requirements for it to fit that style of film.


But I'm willing to agree that the film is great.

But it isn't something to watch to pick your spirits up.


Next: Not sure!

PS: For those inclined, I participated in a discussion of an upcoming appearance by Brendan Sexton on Drunk History. And he responded!


Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:52 pm
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If you say it was there, Janson, I can't disagree with you. I was basing my thoughts on a cursory glance, but who knows what I was doing on Thursday or Friday?

OK, Friday night. Saw film number 13 for 2018 already. Yet another classic one.

Sunset Boulevard

Joe Gillis (William Holden) is about to give up on his writing dreams in Hollywood and move back to Ohio. But first, he has to elude two people trying to repo his car. His car gets a flat and he's just able to get it to an empty garage in a deserted mansion.

Just then, he gets called up by silent film star Norma Desmond (Gloria Swanson). She mistakenly believes that he's there to deliver a coffin for a dead monkey. But once they get that cleared up, she asks his opinion on her big comeback...a version of Salome which she wrote with herself as the lead, natch. Joe realizes the script is terrible, but he lands a job as a script doctor to fix it.

He ends up having his things moved to the mansion where he learns from butler Max (Erich von Stroheim) that he writes her fan mail and refuses to reveal the truth about her faded star due to her probably not accepting it well (depression, suicide attempts).

While Joe is OK with Norma treating him with suits and cigarette cases, what happens when he realizes that Norma has feelings for him? And what happens when a chance series of meetings with a script reader (Nancy Olson) to work on one of Joe's scripts threatens to complicate things with both his friend Artie (Jack Webb!) and Norma?

Film works as a character study of two people driven together thanks to desperate circumstances. Both of whom are operating under severe delusions and aren't willing to face the facts.

I've heard some people consider this to be film noir. I'm not fully convinced

Even though some grim things happen, particularly in the second half, I never got the impression that Joe's fallen for Norma.
Also, I'm unaware that any crimes have been committed until the end. Both of which I'd consider more or less requirements for it to fit that style of film.


But I'm willing to agree that the film is great.

But it isn't something to watch to pick your spirits up.

That movie is just absurdly good. Exceeded my expectations despite it's legendary status.


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That movie is just absurdly good. Exceeded my expectations despite it's legendary status.


I'm glad you really enjoyed it. It's on the verge of my top 20 of all time.

Leaning towards ending January/beginning February on a mild romp.


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PS: For those inclined, I participated in a discussion of an upcoming appearance by Brendan Sexton on Drunk History. And he responded!


Wait--Brendon Sexton III, like from Welcome to the Dollhouse, Session 9, and Boys Don't Cry? Man, I love him. Usually when actors consistently play bad or unappealing people it eventually leads to me just having a negative association with them, but he's a rare exception.

Where was the discussion? Live or online?


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If you say it was there, Janson, I can't disagree with you. I was basing my thoughts on a cursory glance, but who knows what I was doing on Thursday or Friday?


I can attest to the presence of the bot post. I didn't look closely enough to see the most recent poster, got excited that the thread was updated, and was like " . . . .Oh!". The porn on offer was . . . certainly varied.


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Wooley wrote:
That movie is just absurdly good. Exceeded my expectations despite it's legendary status.


This film has escaped my radar for too long. I've been meaning to watch it since forever, and haven't been able to.

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The porn on offer was . . . certainly varied.

One of them was "Hard Nipples Movie" which I just found so intriguing. Like, how long is this movie? I'm thinking 2 minutes of a hard nipple would be about 1-1/2 minutes too long. Granted, I'm not really a hard nipple guy so far be it from me to question someone's fetish. This seems like the porn you'd watch when you've absolutely exhausted every other subgenre. "Seen it, seen it, seen it...hmmm, hard nipples, you say? OK, let's give it a shot."

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One of them was "Hard Nipples Movie" which I just found so intriguing. Like, how long is this movie? I'm thinking 2 minutes of a hard nipple would be about 1-1/2 minutes too long. Granted, I'm not really a hard nipple guy so far be it from me to question someone's fetish. This seems like the porn you'd watch when you've absolutely exhausted every other subgenre. "Seen it, seen it, seen it...hmmm, hard nipples, you say? OK, let's give it a shot."


It's like one of those movies they make out of an SNL sketch. Like, oh, geez, we have to build a whole 90 minute plot out of this? Okay, there are these models, right, and they get trapped in a meat locker, and to pass the time . . .


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This film has escaped my radar for too long. I've been meaning to watch it since forever, and haven't been able to.


I tell ya, I hesitated for a long time and I wasn't halfway through it before I realized I'd been a fool. It's that good.


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I'm glad you really enjoyed it. It's on the verge of my top 20 of all time.

When you think about the films of William Holden, Sunset Blvd., Born Yesterday, Sabrina, The Bridge On The River Motherfuckin' Kwai, The Wild Bunch, Network, fucking NETWORK, and if you wanna hear him sing, check out Father Is A Bachelor, he's startlingly good, it's just amazing we aren't talking about him all the time around here. The guy was a lion.


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Wait--Brendon Sexton III, like from Welcome to the Dollhouse, Session 9, and Boys Don't Cry? Man, I love him. Usually when actors consistently play bad or unappealing people it eventually leads to me just having a negative association with them, but he's a rare exception.

Where was the discussion? Live or online?


It was on his Facebook page. His family is behind it, but he does respond, usually placing his initials at the end of his posts. That way you know it was him.


Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:16 am
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When you think about the films of William Holden, Sunset Blvd., Born Yesterday, Sabrina, The Bridge On The River Motherfuckin' Kwai, The Wild Bunch, Network, fucking NETWORK, and if you wanna hear him sing, check out Father Is A Bachelor, he's startlingly good, it's just amazing we aren't talking about him all the time around here. The guy was a lion.


Maybe he was too subtle? But it's the third film of his I've seen in recent years (Network, Born Yesterday and Sunset Boulevard).

Looks like I'll have to make time for the Bridge and the whistling.


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I'm all the way up and back with...

XXX: The Return of Xander Cage

Hear me out on this one. Continuity isn't exactly a strength of this series.

In film one, Xander Cage (Vin Diesel) was an extreme sports athlete recruited by Gibbons (Samuel Leroy Jackson) to infiltrate a group of Russian terrorists in Europe.

In film two, Cage is supposedly killed by an Army sergeant and he's replaced by former Navy SEAL officer Darius Stone (Ice Cube).

We open film three with Gibbons talking with a new recruit, a soccer player from Brazil.

A rogue satellite goes and kills both of them.


Current head of the NSA Jane Marke (Toni Collette) goes to South America to recruit Cage who is now doing his extreme sports stunts to steal satellite signals for the poor people of a village so they can watch soccer. She is able to convince him to retrieve Pandora's Box (a black box that allows its wielder to launch satellites from space to kill people) which was stolen in a brazen robbery by Xiang (Donnie Yen).

But when he is able to meet up and confront Xiang in the Philippines, Cage learns a surprising truth and it leads to a trail of events that eventually lead to Detroit (ooh, shades of Brick Mansions).

It works as a dumb action film. Director DJ Caruso gives this film some zip and allows both Yen and Tony Jaa to give demonstrations on why they're respected action stars. Early scenes with Nina Dobrev as a tech/weapons expert are kinda charming and it appears that Diesel is trying here unlike some films (cough Babylon AD cough).

But this film feels less like a Americanized James Bond with muscle cars in the first film in the series and more like Fast and the Furious with spies in the place of criminals. Although some action sequences work, the sidekicks in this film prove a poor substitute for Paul Walker, The Rock, Ludacris, etc. At times, it appears the biggest battle is for worst performance between Collette and Deepika Padukone.

Film also makes a turn towards some pretty predictable territory in the second half.

Not even Ice Cube showing up to save the sidekick's bacon in the Detroit warehouse is able to compensate.


It's a watchable film, but it also feels less than ambitious. The multiculturalism is a nice touch, but the writing is too pedestrian to make this return more than a brief one.

Next: I need to catch up on some films I started but haven't completed before tackling new ones. So expect an Oscar winner and a silly Christmas romance film in my next three films or so. Plus, something something Ferguson.


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And thanks to Thief's challenge, I watched none of them. Instead I watched:

A Corner in Wheat

13 minute short that showcases what happens when a greedy rich man decides to corner the wheat market. While he's hobnobbing with the rich, the people in town deal with bread lines, high prices, and low supply.

As a criticism of capitalism, it does the job. Narratively speaking, the ending is a bit murky.

But to DW Griffith's credit, his actors underplay rather than overplay the moments. It makes for an interesting watch.

NEXT 6 (wish me luck):
A Christmas Prince
Moonlight
Whose Streets?
Young Bodies Heal Quickly
Miss Hokusai
The Conversation

Runners-up:
The WNUF Halloween Special
A Ghost Story
Obit
Breathing
The Boss Baby
North Face


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:D Sorry...

Hey, The Conversation is a damn fine film. Looking forward to your thoughts.

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:D Sorry...

Hey, The Conversation is a damn fine film. Looking forward to your thoughts.


Nothing to apologize for. I'm sure to swerve from time to time. At least I have a good excuse for it...

Anyways, will finish Whose Streets? tonight and Christmas Prince tomorrow morning.

Sunday looks like a doubleheader. Start off with Moonlight and then I might have to swerve again.

Found Friend Request on TubiTV. These things don't just happen.


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Sunset Boulevard is a magnificent character study. Glad you really liked it as well.

I also liked The Conversation quite a bit.

Moonlight and A Ghost Story are some of my favorite films of their respective year.

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Just finished Whose Streets? tonight. Will try to do a full review tomorrow.

Definitely a lot to think about. Probably finishing Christmas Prince tomorrow.


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By the way, I remember you saying that you were thinking of starting a youtube channel. Is it up yet?

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By the way, I remember you saying that you were thinking of starting a youtube channel. Is it up yet?


Nah. Not yet, but I plan on running a trial test (mainly for video and audio purposes) sometime early next week.

Primarily, it would be for movie reviews. But I may dabble a bit into music as well.

For the films, these are segments I'm looking to do:

Skewed Views: Take a well known film and walk it through some tangents to reach an unexpected conclusion.
Reviews: What it says on the tin.
Best and Worst of the Year: Self explanatory
Hall of Shame: Focusing on terrible films
Classics Corner: Take a look at films considered to be classic.

As for music, I'd take a look at the best and worst of the year.

I'll probably show my mug so everyone can see what I look like!


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Whose Streets?

Missouri is the new Mississippi

Early in the film Whose Streets?, we get an inside look at what happened in Ferguson following the death of Michael Brown Jr. He was killed by police officer Darren Brown unarmed after leaving a convenience store.

They decide to focus on memorializing him through a street tribute site and by protesting on his behalf. Most of the people marching are out to protest against the mostly white police force for not acknowledging his name or admitting wrongdoing. A few decide to smash windows, loot, and burn down the convenience store.

Which images get highlighted by both the media and by politicians? Take a guess.

Anyway, we take a look at various people in the protest movements and witness their daily lives. Although a few are like regular protesters, others are regular people like a nursing student, musician, and a couple of parents.

Although the film does feel a bit one-sided in its approach (no police are among those interviewed), at its best, it gives us a ground level view into not only what happened in Ferguson, but also the frustration and anger that led into the protests (and eventually into the Black Lives Matter movement).

It's definitely worth seeing.


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Nah. Not yet, but I plan on running a trial test (mainly for video and audio purposes) sometime early next week.

Primarily, it would be for movie reviews. But I may dabble a bit into music as well.

For the films, these are segments I'm looking to do:

Skewed Views: Take a well known film and walk it through some tangents to reach an unexpected conclusion.
Reviews: What it says on the tin.
Best and Worst of the Year: Self explanatory
Hall of Shame: Focusing on terrible films
Classics Corner: Take a look at films considered to be classic.

As for music, I'd take a look at the best and worst of the year.

I'll probably show my mug so everyone can see what I look like!

Sounds great. I'll look forward to it.

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Here comes another swerve!

Canadian Bacon

Alright, my first film from ThisTV this year as well as a look at a rare bird: Michael Moore doing a fictionalized story.

The President of the US (Alan Alda) is in deep doo-doo poll numbers wise. Although he won the cold war against Russia, many places are losing defense factories and jobs for their citizens. One of these places are in Niagara Falls where the sheriff (John Candy) helps save the politician's life from an accidental shooting.

Although that nudges the polls ever-so-slightly to the right direction, the president has to face hard facts with his general (Rip Torn) and his chief of staff (Kevin Pollak). He'll have to start a war to get those numbers up permanently, although without the actual violence and loss of life.

After their original plans of Russia falls through, the chief of staff presents an interesting alternative...Canada, our neighbor to the north. Footage of the sheriff getting beaten up at a hockey game due to his opinions of Canadian beer spurs things along.

Through a series of attacks from various news and TV shows (frightening how this could happen still today!), they start to stir up a xenophobic frenzy against those who say eh.

Meanwhile, the sheriff, his friend Roy Boy (Kevin J. O'Connor), and his other friend Kabral (Bill Nunn) go on a crusade. After their attempt to litter on Canadian grounds leads to the sheriff losing his girlfriend Honey (Rhea Perlman) to the Mounties, they decide to bring them back no matter the cost.

Also stirring the pot is RJ Hacker (GD Spradlin) whose plant being shut down in Niagara Falls leads to the beginning of the film and ultimately to revenge involving a software program which when activated could lead to the end of the world.

Occasionally, there's a funny moment here and a moment to think about there.

But Bacon is too scattered to have much of an impact. It'll remind you at times of a bad sitcom; at other times, it'll remind you of Dr. Strangelove.

And the anti-Canadian thing was done to much better effect in the South Park movie.

This Bacon is not delicious. It's too bland to mean very much in the genre of political comedies.

Next: A Christmas Prince, I swear. Really gotta start knocking off these newer films.


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Next: A Christmas Prince, I swear. Really gotta start knocking off these newer films.


What is drawing you to this one? I like Rose McIver a lot, but the guy on the cover has such a bland look to him and the plot sounds pretty blah.


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What is drawing you to this one? I like Rose McIver a lot, but the guy on the cover has such a bland look to him and the plot sounds pretty blah.


I already saw about 38 minutes of it. I find myself laughing in spite of myself.

The plot is fairly ridiculous, but you know, it does take my mind of certain things in the news so it does have its bright spots.


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Nah. Not yet, but I plan on running a trial test (mainly for video and audio purposes) sometime early next week.

Primarily, it would be for movie reviews. But I may dabble a bit into music as well.

For the films, these are segments I'm looking to do:

Skewed Views: Take a well known film and walk it through some tangents to reach an unexpected conclusion.
Reviews: What it says on the tin.
Best and Worst of the Year: Self explanatory
Hall of Shame: Focusing on terrible films
Classics Corner: Take a look at films considered to be classic.

As for music, I'd take a look at the best and worst of the year.

I'll probably show my mug so everyone can see what I look like!
I watch a lot of film-related Youtube in my spare time, so I'd totally check out your channel, if you make one. :fresh:

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