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I just first watched this 80's gem... Wooley will be so proud ;)

I assume that's the Tommy Lee Jones film, but I've never seen that particular poster.


Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:36 pm
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I assume that's the Tommy Lee Jones film, but I've never seen that particular poster.


Same here. Saw that baby in theaters back in the day. Barely remember it at all.

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I just first watched this 80's gem... Wooley will be so proud ;)

YES!!! :up: :D


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Same here. Saw that baby in theaters back in the day. Barely remember it at all.

It's better than you remember.


Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:09 am
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Reporting on Adrian Lyne's first two films:

FOXES (1979)
I think I was expecting a naughty teen comedy or something, so I was impressed that the film took itself more seriously than that. It's about 4 teen girls doing some naughty/dangerous things, but there's consequences to their behavior and things occasionally get dark. It's not a forgotten masterpiece, but I definitely recommend it if only to remind oneself how terrific Jodie Foster was at this age.

(and as a classic rock nerd, I was especially enamored with the film thanks to various Easter Eggs, like the scene in which the girls attend an Angel concert. Or when Foster, referring to Cherie Currie's character, says "She doesn't run away anymore". That last one probably wasn't intentional but it amused me nevertheless. And I'm powerless to resist a film in which a depressed teenage girl unironically cranks up More Than a Feeling)

FLASHDANCE (1983)
So this wasn't great, but then again I don't think anyone has ever tried to convince me that it was, so no harm done. I'm old enough to remember the impact this had on pop culture at the time, so it's weird to find out that the movie is as slight as it is. Even the famous shoulder-baring sweatshirt only appears briefly. (But long enough to convince my Aunt that she'd look sexy in one, I guess.) But this would be Exhibit A if I were ever asked to illustrate the effect MTV had on Hollywood at the time. In a bonus interview, Bruckheimer even says that he considered it a musical and that's basically accurate given the frequency of music videos that occasionally intrude upon the plot. Also-this was my first viewing so I was amazed at how much of the footage my brain had memorized thanks to MTV's near-constant airing of the Sembello video back in the day. Not terrible, but I doubt I'll revisit it in the future.

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"...because you're mine, I walk the Lyne..."

9 1/2 WEEKS (1986)
Not much to say about this one, as it was pretty empty. Attractive people doing it.
I will point out that it's been a long time since I've seen prime-time Rourke so it was really jarring to be reminded of how hunky he once was. And douchey. If there was a Smarm Olympics in '86, Bruce Willis and Mickey Rourke would've been Gold and Silver medallists.

FATAL ATTRACTION (1987)
This might be the first Lyne film to have any sort of normal plot to speak of. (As opposed to the series-of-music-videos approach.) This one is fun in a tawdry sort of way and works as far as suspense and thrills and so on, but when I stop to think about any of what's happening it makes me feel dirty. The message could've been "keep it in your pants" but instead it was more like "bitches is crazy". Douglas cheated on an innocent spouse, but Close is the clear villain. And having the wife deliver the ultimate punishment only served to absolve Douglas even more.
But still, I get why this caused such a stir at the time. I'm not denying its charms as a sleazy thriller.

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"...because you're mine, I walk the Lyne..."

9 1/2 WEEKS (1986)
Not much to say about this one, as it was pretty empty. Attractive people doing it.
I will point out that it's been a long time since I've seen prime-time Rourke so it was really jarring to be reminded of how hunky he once was. And douchey. If there was a Smarm Olympics in '86, Bruce Willis and Mickey Rourke would've been Gold and Silver medallists.

FATAL ATTRACTION (1987)
This might be the first Lyne film to have any sort of normal plot to speak of. (As opposed to the series-of-music-videos approach.) This one is fun in a tawdry sort of way and works as far as suspense and thrills and so on, but when I stop to think about any of what's happening it makes me feel dirty. The message could've been "keep it in your pants" but instead it was more like "bitches is crazy". Douglas cheated on an innocent spouse, but Close is the clear villain. And having the wife deliver the ultimate punishment only served to absolve Douglas even more.
But still, I get why this caused such a stir at the time. I'm not denying its charms as a sleazy thriller.


9 1/2 Weeks is garbage.

It's been awhile since I've seen it, but I don't think Douglas is absolved of his shittiness as a husband in this. And even if he is, I don't hold the movie to high standards of social approval though. To me it is just a B movie throw back done 80's style, full of stereotypical archetypes. Glenn Close is absurdly psychotic, as it should be in such an ultimately dumb movie. I've always loved it.


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9 1/2 Weeks is garbage.

It's been awhile since I've seen it, but I don't think Douglas is absolved of his shittiness as a husband in this. And even if he is, I don't hold the movie to high standards of social approval though. To me it is just a B movie throw back done 80's style, full of stereotypical archetypes. Glenn Close is absurdly psychotic, as it should be in such an ultimately dumb movie. I've always loved it.

Yeah, I hope my message came across that I mostly enjoyed it for what it was.
Maybe Douglas isn't absolved; it definitely seemed like a cautionary tale to not cheat. But I still feel like the blame was on Close for not being cool with the casual hang. Douglas may have brought it on himself, but he's still the "good guy" of the story being chased by the villain. I don't want to focus on this too much, though. I knew I was in for a sleazy time going in and it delivered.

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Douglas sure got around with the "sleazy thriller" fad. This, Basic Instinct, Disclosure (which was as bland as it could be, but still marketed as a steamy "sleazy thriller"). Also, was this the first of this string of sleazy/erotic thrillers that plagued the 90s?

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Also, was this the first of this string of sleazy/erotic thrillers that plagued the 90s?

Can't say for sure but at the time I remember thinking that they were all cashing in on FA's popularity. So my hot take is "Yes".

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Yeah, I hope my message came across that I mostly enjoyed it for what it was.
Maybe Douglas isn't absolved; it definitely seemed like a cautionary tale to not cheat. But I still feel like the blame was on Close for not being cool with the casual hang. Douglas may have brought it on himself, but he's still the "good guy" of the story being chased by the villain. I don't want to focus on this too much, though. I knew I was in for a sleazy time going in and it delivered.


Oh, there's no doubt Close is portraying the worst of jilted woman stereotypes. In that sense, yeah, it's not a flattering portrait and deserves criticism. I was just thinking back and wondering how Douglas was portrayed and I remember him as not coming out clean. But I could be entirely remembering this wrong. It could have an entirely been a 'a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do' kinda thing, which would hardly be surprising considering the director or the decade. Either way, I hope it's the kind of movie that no one would ever consider with the slightest bit of seriousness. It's completely ridiculous.


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Does anybody remember that sleazy thriller where Michael Douglas decides to masturbate in front of his secretary?

No? Oh well, let's talk about Louis CK some more then.


Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:07 am
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I prefer 9 & 1/2 Weeks, not because it's better but maybe a little more honest about what it is.

Fatal Attraction, for me, will always be tainted by the inexplicable fact that it was a multiple Oscar nominee, including (bww) Best Picture. It obviously deserved none. I'm sure that if 9 & 1/2 Weeks had fooled so many people into thinking it wasn't some kind of disposable pulp than it would also be more scorned. But instead we had to all pretend that Fatal Attraction wasn't trash for a while until taking a collective shower and a nap and realizing that it's kinda fucked up that it received five more Oscar nominations than Sex Lies & Videotape. Michael Douglas, in all honesty, is basically a cheap burger of a movie star.


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Can't say for sure but at the time I remember thinking that they were all cashing in on FA's popularity. So my hot take is "Yes".

The Temp wasn't so bad *shrug*


Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:19 am
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No? Oh well, let's talk about Louis CK some more then.


Ugh, please no. It's clearly for the best that we just let all of the hot takes coming out over a leaked set do all the talking.


Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:28 am
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Ugh, please no. It's clearly for the best that we just let all of the hot takes coming out over a leaked set do all the talking.

I was being a little sarcastic. But it's funny how no one is talking about "too soon" with regards to Michael Douglas' recent work considering how he was accused of essentially the same behavior.


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Here's a fun Albert Finney double feature:


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I was being a little sarcastic. But it's funny how no one is talking about "too soon" with regards to Michael Douglas' recent work considering how he was accused of essentially the same behavior.


I so rarely pay attention to stories about most celebrities personal lives, I had no idea what you were referring to wasn't actually a real movie about Douglas wanking it.

I'm hardly surprised though.


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Fatal Attraction, for me, will always be tainted by the inexplicable fact that it was a multiple Oscar nominee, including (bww) Best Picture.

Ha! I didn't remember that, yikes. I guess in its defense I would only say that at no time did it feel like anyone involved was aiming for Oscar glory, so I wouldn't blame the nominations on Lyne. The vibe I was getting from the film was more like an early-60s Joan Crawford vehicle. I'm way more comfortable with that; had I remembered the Oscar stuff I'd probably backlash the hell out of it. :)

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Like Westworld, a number of Crichton's works, like this film and maybe a couple of others (Coma, Terminal Man) could use the kind of reboot that would not only update the woefully antiquated technology but also explore the implications given by the newer technology that even Crichton was unable to envision. This is a fascinating, if outdated, film though.

Also, a couple of other non-Crichton films deserve similar update-reboots - Brainstorm, Dreamscape, Runaway, etc.

(Oh wait. Runaway was Crichton too. I forgot about that.)


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Like Westworld, a number of Crichton's works, like this film and maybe a couple of others (Coma, Terminal Man) could use the kind of reboot that would not only update the woefully antiquated technology but also explore the implications given by the newer technology that even Crichton was unable to envision. This is a fascinating, if outdated, film though.

Also, a couple of other non-Crichton films deserve similar update-reboots - Brainstorm, Dreamscape, Runaway, etc.

(Oh wait. Runaway was Crichton too. I forgot about that.)



How DARE you, sir. Dreamscape and Runaway are fine films that don't need a reboot.

If you think about it, we're practically at the Runaway level of robotics, drones and weapons right now.

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I can't be the only person here with a deep and unapologetic love for Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon. I just watched it on Netflix for the first since the '80s and by god it holds up.

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Anyone who doesn't like The Last Dragon can kiss my...
...well, you know.

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I can't be the only person here with a deep and unapologetic love for Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon. I just watched it on Netflix for the first since the '80s and by god it holds up.

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No, it is one of my favorite movies ever.
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