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Dude, I am totally overselling this.
Most people here probably don't know me, RT refugee, and those who do may or may not remember that for 7 or 8 years I did a thread every October where I watched a minimum of 31 Horror movies in the 31 days of October and did a full write-up, with plenty of screen-caps, of every one. The most I ever did was 51, cause, you know, I have a job.
Anyway, I still watch at least 31 every year, I just haven't done the thread for the last 2 or 3.
However, in preparation for this, I do not watch ANY Horror movies after Mardi Gras (I am from New Orleans), so that I am nice and Horror-starved come October 1.
However again, I have developed a new ritual in the last few of watching movies that are not-quite-Horror in September, to get in the mood (and because, honestly, I kept cheating).
To keep things short, I have a very clear and strictly-defined concept of what qualifies as an October Horror Movie, so I try to watch everything that doesn't quite qualify in September, to ramp up for October. And I have begun constructing my list.
The shortest version would be thrillers, sci-fi, suspense, and mystery films, violent exploitation films, as well as the simply bizarre, that do not expressly have supernatural elements used in a genuine Horror context. So if there's a stalker, a killer, a whatever that is completely human with no supernatural elements, like giallos for example, or if there are paranormal elements but the film is not a horror-movie, or if it's like Naked Lunch or even Videodrome... you get the picture. Things that get your blood pumping in the way that Horror movies do, but can't really be called horror movies (cause Silence Of The Lambs is NOT a fucking Horror movie).
What I would like is for you guys to help me build that September list of not-quite-October movies and go through the viewing with me.
Please allow me to give you the earliest version of the list and please start suggesting right away as we only have 12 days to get this together.

It Came From Outer Space
Existenz
Body Double
Klute
The 'Burbs
Forbidden Planet
The Man With Two Brains
Sound Of My Voice
Deep Red
Wake In Fright
Brazil
The Cell
Outland
Videodrome
Blow Out
Martha, Marcy, May, Marlene
Blue Velvet
Endangered Species
American Gigolo
Black Swan
Murder On The Orient Express (70s)
Hardcore
Time After Time
Suicide Club
Beyond The Black Rainbow
1990: The Bronx Warriors


PD- I have been of Photobucket since they introduced high pricing. I will be joining some service to add visuals to this thread, maybe tomorrow, certainly in the next few days.


Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:31 pm
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Come and See.


Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:52 pm
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Arrebato

Borgman

Entertainment

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Entertainment

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Would REALLY like to see Amer. Can't find it streaming on any service.


Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:04 pm
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Well, my specialty is eco-horror and giant monsters, so:

Prophecy (1979)
Alligator
The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms
Big Ass Spider!
The Deadly Mantis
The Giant Claw
Gorgo
The Host (2006)
It Came From Beneath the Sea
Monsters (2010)
Night of the Lepus
Them!
Trollhunter
Kingdom of the Spiders
Orca

A few others:

The Others (2001)
Stalker (1979)
The Day Time Ended
It's Alive
The Car
House (1986)
The Wraith


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Klute
The 'Burbs
Forbidden Planet
The Man With Two Brains
Wake In Fright
The Cell
Videodrome
Martha, Marcy, May, Marlene



How many are you hoping to have on your list?

I liked all of the above. Klute isn't amazing, but I seem to remember it having a great kiss, for whatever that's worth.

Wake in Fright is awesome and memorable and disturbing.

What service(s) are you using to watch these movies? Do you want Netlix, Hulu, Amazon, etc?

Generally speaking I'd recommend:

The Amazing Screw-On Head
Upstream Color
Advantageous
Blood Tea and Red String
The Machine
Europa Report
A Boy and His Dog
The Signal
Stoker
Citizen X
Suture
The Voices
The Last Wave
The Eclipse
Noise (2007)
I'm Not Scared
Lonely Place to Die
Disorder
Smilla's Sense of Snow
A Wolf at the Door
Coherence
The Rover
Seance on a Wet Afternoon
The Silence (2010)
Stonehearst Asylum
The Minus Man
Crimson Rivers
Gone (2012)
My Son My Son What Have Ye Done


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Threads
Popcorn
Altered States
The Phantom Carriage
Society
Pi
Creepshow
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
Howl (2015)
Rakka, Firebase, and Zygote (all of these are 20-30 minute short films which can be found on youtube)
Dead of Night
Beneath (there are 2 horror films from 2013 with this title, but I'm referring to this version.)
Dante's Inferno (1911)
The Grandmother (1970)
Goke, Body Snatcher From Hell

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Some others in consideration:

Class of 1984
Damnation Alley
The Visitor
Gaslight
Your Vice Is A Locked Room And Only I Have The Key
Big Trouble In Little China
M
Death Wish (1974)
Megaforce
20 Million Miles To Earth
Rare Exports
City Of Lost Children
Ms. .45
The Sword and the Sorcerer
The Machine
Enemy
Death and the Maiden
Earth vs. The Flying Saucers
The Neon Demon
Genesis II
Batman: Gotham By Gaslight
Forbidden Zone
Capricorn One


Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:20 pm
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Well, my specialty is eco-horror and giant monsters, so:

Prophecy (1979)
Alligator
The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms
Big Ass Spider!
The Deadly Mantis
The Giant Claw
Gorgo
The Host (2006)
It Came From Beneath the Sea
Monsters (2010)
Night of the Lepus
Them!
Trollhunter
Kingdom of the Spiders
Orca

A few others:

The Others (2001)
Stalker (1979)
The Day Time Ended
It's Alive
The Car
House (1986)
The Wraith


Enjoy!

Love these, but I would put most of these in October, to be honest. And I will. Don't think they'll be wasted (I also love Eco-horror, gonna do Phase IV for the first time in October, for sure).


Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:21 pm
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How many are you hoping to have on your list?

I liked all of the above. Klute isn't amazing, but I seem to remember it having a great kiss, for whatever that's worth.

Wake in Fright is awesome and memorable and disturbing.

What service(s) are you using to watch these movies? Do you want Netlix, Hulu, Amazon, etc?

Generally speaking I'd recommend:

The Amazing Screw-On Head
Upstream Color
Advantageous
Blood Tea and Red String
The Machine
Europa Report
A Boy and His Dog
The Signal
Stoker
Citizen X
Suture
The Voices
The Last Wave
The Eclipse
Noise (2007)
I'm Not Scared
Lonely Place to Die
Disorder
Smilla's Sense of Snow
A Wolf at the Door
Coherence
The Rover
Seance on a Wet Afternoon
The Silence (2010)
Stonehearst Asylum
The Minus Man
Crimson Rivers
Gone (2012)
My Son My Son What Have Ye Done

I have iTunes, Netflix, Amazon Prime and Hulu (I think), may add Shudder as well.

PD- I loved A Boy And His Dog when I was younger, and it was one of my late brother's favorite movies, I think you've definitely hit a winner for me there.


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Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Threads
Popcorn
Altered States
The Phantom Carriage
Society
Pi
Creepshow
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
Howl (2015)
Rakka, Firebase, and Zygote (all of these are 20-30 minute short films which can be found on youtube)
Dead of Night
Beneath (there are 2 horror films from 2013 with this title, but I'm referring to this version.)
Dante's Inferno (1911)
The Grandmother (1970)
Goke, Body Snatcher From Hell

Popcorn is October, have watched it fairly recently, though.
Altered States is on point.
Phantom Carriage is DEFINITELY October, I own it on DVD but have not watched it.
The rest are definitely food for thought.


Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:24 pm
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Sweet Home (2015)
The Last Survivors (2014)
Wyrmwood: Road of the Dead (2014)
Crush the Skull (2015)


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Wyrmwood: Road of the Dead (2014)

I definitely want to see this one, been meaning to for a coupla years.


Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:06 pm
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Yeah Borgman is a darkly hilarious movie. Would love to see more from Alex van Warmerdam.


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Borgman

Seconded!
This movie really stuck with me. Also, Jan Bijvoet is a national treasure (in my country at least).

Some movies I'd like to recommend myself:

- Calvaire
- Vinyan
- Kill List
- Delicatessen


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If you're gonna watch M, I suggest following it with The Testament of Dr Mabuse.
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The Brave Little Toaster
From Justin To Kelly
Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again
Alvin and the Chipmunks: The squeakquel
The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement
The Notebook


Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:33 pm
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Not sure which ones you've seen, but...

It Comes at Night (2017)
Bone Tomahawk (2015)
In Fear (2013)
The Bay (2012)
Chained (2012)
Kill List (2011)
Dead Calm (1989)
Spoorloos (1988)
Wake in Fright (1971)
Dead Ringer (1964)

Up to you to decide if they "apply" for the Pre-Horrorthon or for the Horrorthon itself.

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Rump wrote:
The Brave Little Toaster
From Justin To Kelly
Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again
Alvin and the Chipmunks: The squeakquel
The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement
The Notebook

Perfect!


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Alvin and the Chipmunks: The squeakquel

I second this one. Jason Lee was never better.

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Existenz
Klute
The 'Burbs
The Man With Two Brains
Brazil
Outland
Martha, Marcy, May, Marlene
Blue Velvet
American Gigolo
Murder On The Orient Express (70s)
Hardcore
Time After Time
1990: The Bronx Warriors

These are all only tangentially "horror", but I would recommend pretty much all of them.

Klute, Martha Marcy May Marlene, Blue Velvet and American Gigolo are better defined as thrillers with moments of tension that could be considered intense. (Gigolo probably less so, and more of a straightforward drama.)

eXistenz, Brazil, Outland and Hardcore are more sci-fi/fantasy, with some thriller elements. Time After Time manages some slasher elements in what's essentially a detective story (with Wells as the detective). Orient Express is straight detective work.

The 'burbs and Two Brains are straight comedies, very good ones. You won't need to hold your seat here, but both are based in horror-cliche homages. 1990 is just fun post-apocalyptic trash.

Wooley wrote:
Body Double
Deep Red
Wake In Fright
Videodrome
Blow Out
Black Swan
Beyond The Black Rainbow


These are all excellent, although a couple of them are also horror-adjacent, but in certain spoilerific ways that I won't divulge. I recommend them regardless.

Wooley wrote:
It Came From Outer Space
Forbidden Planet

Sci-fi classics that wouldn't scare a four-year-old but are essential canon.

Wooley wrote:
Sound Of My Voice
The Cell
Endangered Species

I wouldn't recommend these. Species isn't bad, but meh. Voice is a big whatever. The Cell has some interesting visuals from Tarsem Singh, but the narrative is refried serial killer fare.


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Spoorloos (1988)

I watched this recently, really good, slightly unusual thriller. Kubrick called it "the most terrifying film he had ever seen", and even though I don't agree with that statement, it is really effective.


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Borgman

Speaking of which, I recently found a couple of Alex van Warmerdam films on Prime, Abel and Little Tony, so I hope to get a little further into his catalog. Neither are horror though.


edit: Is Entertainment the Neil Hamburger film? This horror's going to get ugly.


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Abel is a very fun movie. But it isn't really anything like Borgman.


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Klute isn't amazing, but I seem to remember it having a great kiss, for whatever that's worth.

I think it's a great film, and probably Jane Fonda's best performance, which is worth a lot to me.

Takoma1 wrote:
Upstream Color
A Boy and His Dog
The Last Wave
Seance on a Wet Afternoon

I'll second these, but a lot of these titles are really pushing the horror boundry.


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Class of 1984

I'd go with Night School instead.

Wooley wrote:
Gaslight
Your Vice Is A Locked Room And Only I Have The Key
M
City Of Lost Children
Ms. .45
Enemy
The Neon Demon

I strongly recommend all of these. Lost Children is more fantasy, but it's beautifully filmed and perfect October ambience. (Check out the directors' Delicatessen as well if you can.)

Wooley wrote:
The Visitor
Big Trouble In Little China
Megaforce
Rare Exports
The Sword and the Sorcerer
Forbidden Zone

These are all great fun for the season.

Wooley wrote:
20 Million Miles To Earth
Earth vs. The Flying Saucers

More classic sci-fi essentials.

Wooley wrote:
Death Wish (1974)

*sigh* I guess everyone should see it once, but...

Wooley wrote:
Death and the Maiden

Excellent political psychological thriller.

Wooley wrote:
Capricorn One

Not bad, but more of a conspiracy thriller than horror.


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This is very exciting, by the way. I wasn't around for the hey-day of the Horrorthons. Looking forward to this.
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*sigh* I guess everyone should see it once, but...

Yeah, I watched this recently and really didn't like it.


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edit: Is Entertainment the Neil Hamburger film? This horror's going to get ugly.


Yes. I'm generally interested in taking any opportunity I can to break from any remotely tradition of what defines horror. The existential nightmare that is Entertainment certainly qualifies it for me, even if there is nothing that any remotely sane person would consider as genre.

Greasy Strangler is another one that might qualify, even if it is really just a really weird and disturbing comedy.

Klute is fantastic. On the short list of my favourite films from that decade.

Death Wish sucks. I do want to see the third one though. I've never been able to stomach part 2 and always turn it off about ten minutes in.


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Used to love the RT Horrorthon threads! I was always was lurking so you wouldn't know how much of a fan I was... but they were a lot of fun. Looking forward to seeing how this thread develops.

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Night of the Living Dead
An American Werewolf in London
Zombieland

These are ones I watch every season.


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I'm generally interested in taking any opportunity I can to break from any remotely tradition of what defines horror.

I don't want to come off as too much of a stickler about it, especially considering the softer September criteria. I'm still not sure why Boy & His Dog, for example, qualifies. Maybe the garish make-up? Maybe? I don't know.

Bergman has to own November though, right? He seems like a kinda November dude.


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Crush the Skull (2015)


Heck yes! Can't believe I forgot this one!!

Jinnistan wrote:
I'll second these, but a lot of these titles are really pushing the horror boundry.


As in too close to horror? He wants non-horror, thrillery creepy stuff, right?


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Death Wish sucks. I do want to see the third one though. I've never been able to stomach part 2 and always turn it off about ten minutes in.

You do not need to see the second one to enjoy the third one. It basically begins with a cop asking him if he's the guy who did the stuff in the first Death Wish and then giving him free reign to indiscriminately murder petty criminals. A rocket launcher is involved, and there's a guy called the Giggler.

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Hardcore

I'm guessing this isn't the Paul Schrader movie? Although the scene where Dick Black makes George C. Scott look at his junk is borderline horror.

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Anyway, some recs from my end:

Annihilation
The Cannibal Man
Cruising
The Ipcress File
The Killer Must Kill Again
The Night Train Murders
Nightcrawler
The Tenderness of the Wolves
What Have You Done to Solange?

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These are all only tangentially "horror", but I would recommend pretty much all of them.

Klute, Martha Marcy May Marlene, Blue Velvet and American Gigolo are better defined as thrillers with moments of tension that could be considered intense. (Gigolo probably less so, and more of a straightforward drama.)

eXistenz, Brazil, Outland and Hardcore are more sci-fi/fantasy, with some thriller elements. Time After Time manages some slasher elements in what's essentially a detective story (with Wells as the detective). Orient Express is straight detective work.

The 'burbs and Two Brains are straight comedies, very good ones. You won't need to hold your seat here, but both are based in horror-cliche homages. 1990 is just fun post-apocalyptic trash.



These are all excellent, although a couple of them are also horror-adjacent, but in certain spoilerific ways that I won't divulge. I recommend them regardless.


Sci-fi classics that wouldn't scare a four-year-old but are essential canon.


I wouldn't recommend these. Species isn't bad, but meh. Voice is a big whatever. The Cell has some interesting visuals from Tarsem Singh, but the narrative is refried serial killer fare.

That is especially my point.


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Sounds like a great plan.


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I wouldn't recommend these. Species isn't bad, but meh. Voice is a big whatever. The Cell has some interesting visuals from Tarsem Singh, but the narrative is refried serial killer fare.

Yeah, I'm a fan of Species from when I was a kid and it was on HBO, so that's happening. The Cell, I thought, was a poor film when I saw it in its theatrical run, but I thought I might get a taste of it again after all this time.


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I think it's a great film, and probably Jane Fonda's best performance, which is worth a lot to me.

"Oh my angel! Oh my angel! *checks watch*"


I'll second these, but a lot of these titles are really pushing the horror boundry.

You mean they are too close to horror for my criteria?


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I'd go with Night School instead.

VERY different movies. '84 is an old favorite. Fucked up film. They did softer versions of this idea, this is the harder one.


*sigh* I guess everyone should see it once, but...

Seen it several times as a teenager but not since.


Not bad, but more of a conspiracy thriller than horror.

Right, but the main rule for Pre-October is no real Horror movies.


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Night of the Living Dead
An American Werewolf in London
Zombieland

These are ones I watch every season.

Yeah, great picks, but those are for Horrorthon, though, in October, those are the classics. That's a different thread, maybe that month if I'm not to tight (doing a week of overnights in the hospital and going to a conference in San Francisco in October. :( )
This thread is for September.


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I don't want to come off as too much of a stickler about it, especially considering the softer September criteria. I'm still not sure why Boy & His Dog, for example, qualifies. Maybe the garish make-up? Maybe? I don't know.

Bergman has to own November though, right? He seems like a kinda November dude.

So what I'm going for in October is a number of things, but mostly things to get the mood started before October without spoiling anything for October itself. You know, like looking at some nude paintings before the humping. (If anybody gets that, good for you.)
So I'm basically going for things that are close to horror but aren't, thrillers, aliens, shit like that, as well as things that just have weird, maybe somewhat sinister vibes, and finally CULT FILMS that are not horror. Cult films always get me excited to get into October. Hence, A Boy And His Dog.


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I'm guessing this isn't the Paul Schrader movie? Although the scene where Dick Black makes George C. Scott look at his junk is borderline horror.

That's the one.
Saw it a buncha times when I was a teenager, haven't seen it since. Kinda fits into the grimy, underworld thriller thing, which counts in September.


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That's the one.
Saw it a buncha times when I was a teenager, haven't seen it since. Kinda fits into the grimy, underworld thriller thing, which counts in September.

Ah, ok. In that case it probably pairs well with Cruising. Maybe add The New York Ripper for a triple feature. All movies have their issues, but nail that sleazy, grimy atmosphere.

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Ah, ok. In that case it probably pairs well with Cruising. Maybe add The New York Ripper for a triple feature. All movies have their issues, but nail that sleazy, grimy atmosphere.

Used Vice Squad last September for this purpose. Actually pretty damn good.


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Used Vice Squad last September for this purpose. Actually pretty damn good.

Yeah, that's a good one (in both legit and grimy ways). I'd rank it under Hardcore and over the other two in terms of quality, although I'd probably reverse the order if we're talking discomfort level.

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Wooley wrote:
Yeah, great picks, but those are for Horrorthon, though, in October, those are the classics. That's a different thread, maybe that month if I'm not to tight (doing a week of overnights in the hospital and going to a conference in San Francisco in October. :( )
This thread is for September.

Must have mis-read the topic.. :shifty:


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