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LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:03 pm

plainview wrote:
In that state, are you referring to the diary that Anna is reading at the very end?

Well, I'm referring to her writing in that diary in the midst of her excruciating illness, and the content of the writing, and the juxtaposition with the others in 'perfect health' - physically, obviously.

plain · Post by **plain** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:07 pm

LEAVES wrote:Well, I'm referring to her writing in that diary in the midst of her excruciating illness, and the content of the writing, and the juxtaposition with the others in 'perfect health' - physically, obviously.

Yes, you're right, it's something quite great to acknowledge, and another strong element of the film.

plain · Post by **plain** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:07 pm

Where does this rank for you among Bergman's films?

Epistemophobia · Post by **Epistemophobia** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:08 pm

I should re-watch Cries and Whispers. Until then I still say it is one of his best.

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:09 pm

plainview wrote:Where does this rank for you among Bergman's films?

#1, among what I've seen. But I think I like it a good deal more than you.

plain · Post by **plain** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:11 pm

LEAVES wrote:#1, among what I've seen. But I think I like it a good deal more than you.

Yes, the only two Bergman I've seen are this and Fanny and Alexander.

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:12 pm

plainview wrote:
Yes, the only two Bergman I've seen are this and Fanny and Alexander.

Well, obviously, Persona. If for nothing else than because Vasco said so.

plain · Post by **plain** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:14 pm

LEAVES wrote:Well, obviously, Persona. If for nothing else than because Vasco said so.

Have you seen Scenes from a Marriage?

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:17 pm

plainview wrote:
Have you seen Scenes from a Marriage?

No, I'm in the middle of the Faith trilogy, then I'll watch that, and Saraband and then... I'm pretty much done for a while with him. I'll have seen everything I really wanted to see. Then it will just be mild curiosities remaining.

But Fassbinder is already better than Bergman. I said it, Bear, I said it.

Blevo · Post by **Blevo** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:49 am

Polanski double feature tonight (Knife & Repulsion).

Wolf of the Winter · Post by **Wolf of the Winter** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:13 am

I finally saw A Serious Man. Great movie.

Tonight I'll watch The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus and tomorrow 25th Hour.

Trip · Post by **Trip** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:39 am

LEAVES wrote:No, I'm in the middle of the Faith trilogy, then I'll watch that, and Saraband and then... I'm pretty much done for a while with him. I'll have seen everything I really wanted to see. Then it will just be mild curiosities remaining.

But Fassbinder is already better than Bergman. I said it, Bear, I said it.

The Silence is great.

Fassbinder much better.

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:41 am

Trip wrote:
The Silence is great.

Fassbinder much better.

What are your thoughts on the BRD?

B-Side · Post by **B-Side** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:45 am

LEAVES should watch In a Year with 13 Moons.

Trip · Post by **Trip** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:57 am

LEAVES wrote:What are your thoughts on the BRD?

It's pretty damn monumental. The B is obviously the strongest. R, if that's Veronika Voss, is the lesser but still gorgeously shot in black + white. Lola is equally gorgeous but for colour, and more probing in the economic/political/societal sense (also, brothel!), but even then not as precise as Maria Braun.

I do prefer his 70s stuff though in general.

Blevo · Post by **Blevo** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:58 am

Smitty Werbenmanjensen wrote:LEAVES should watch In a Year with 13 Moons.

I have a bit of trepidation about this happening. I can never quite tell where he is going to land on things and that film has got to be one of my five favorites.

B-Side · Post by **B-Side** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:01 am

Blevo wrote:
I have a bit of trepidation about this happening. I can never quite tell where he is going to land on things and that film has got to be one of my five favorites.

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:22 am

I'm almost done with Lola and if it stopped now it would be my favorite of the three by a good amount. Ja! Lola, ich liebe dich. Lola herself, well, I love her world. Not so hot on the colored lighting, either, for the most part, although in some instances it works really well (the same could be said of The Cook...), but it's hilarious and everything is so spot on in the moment and so delicious in the grand scheme of things that, well, liebe.

Trip · Post by **Trip** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:24 am

LEAVES wrote:I'm almost done with Lola and if it stopped now it would be my favorite of the three by a good amount. Ja! Lola, ich liebe dich. Lola herself, well, I love her world. Not so hot on the colored lighting, either, for the most part, although in some instances it works really well (the same could be said of The Cook...), but it's hilarious and everything is so spot on in the moment and so delicious in the grand scheme of things that, well, liebe.

Loooove youuuuuuuuu.

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:36 am

Trip wrote:
Loooove youuuuuuuuu.

But... your opinion is wrong. Doesn't this make you ANGRY?

Trip · Post by **Trip** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:42 am

LEAVES wrote:But... your opinion is wrong. Doesn't this make you ANGRY?

I'm open enough to admit my terrible mistakes of opinion.

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:50 am

Trip wrote:
I'm open enough to admit my terrible mistakes of opinion.

You say this, but here I am expecting a nasty PM any second now.

Epistemophobia · Post by **Epistemophobia** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:51 am

LEAVES wrote:(the same could be said of The Cook...)

Ahem.

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:17 am

Epistemophobia wrote: Ahem.

I generally despise mood lighting. That orange/green stuff in the kitchen just looks ugly, especially when it turns the food all 'green eggs and ham'. With the red hallway it works to perfection, but elsewhere I could do without.

As I said, it has its virtues, but sometimes it's just ugly and distracting. It doesn't really detract much given that both films are so strong otherwise, but if those elements which didn't work well had worked better then it would have been an even more engrossing experience.

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:19 am

BRD 3: L

Epistemophobia · Post by **Epistemophobia** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:21 am

LEAVES wrote:I generally despise mood lighting. That orange/green stuff in the kitchen just looks ugly, especially when it turns the food all 'green eggs and ham'. With the red hallway it works to perfection, but elsewhere I could do without.

As I said, it has its virtues, but sometimes it's just ugly and distracting. It doesn't really detract much given that both films are so strong otherwise, but if those elements which didn't work well had worked better then it would have been an even more engrossing experience.

You'll probably like The Belly of an Architect more. You haven't seen that one yet, right? Visually divine.

plain · Post by **plain** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:26 am

Wolf of the Winter wrote:
Tonight I'll watch The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus and tomorrow 25th Hour.

One of those is in my top 20, the other is very average.

LEAVES · Post by **LEAVES** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:29 am

Epistemophobia wrote: You'll probably like The Belly of an Architect more. You haven't seen that one yet, right? Visually divine.

Not yet, no. It's hidden away from the viewing public. Such a film must not get out.

lwilson85 · Post by **lwilson85** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:33 am

Just sawed Camel(s) from Korea. Was good. Seemed to be about the awkwardness and problematic nature of having an affair in long static shots with little movement.

Wolf of the Winter · Post by **Wolf of the Winter** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:04 am

plainview wrote:
One of those is in my top 20, the other is very average.

Parnassus is the first and 25th the second?

plain · Post by **plain** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:05 am

Wolf of the Winter wrote:Parnassus is the first and 25th the second?

no.

Wolf of the Winter · Post by **Wolf of the Winter** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:11 am

plainview wrote:no.

I see. For a moment I thought you were TAS, that's why I said Parnassus in your top 20.

swan swan h · Post by **swan swan h** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:15 am

Love Affair, Or The Case Of The Missing Switchboard Operator (Dusan Makavejev/1967) B-

Rats and sex or the other way around.

Vasco · Post by **Vasco** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:56 am

Nine.
I'm sorry.

swan swan h · Post by **swan swan h** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:39 am

Girl Boss Blues: Escape From Reform School (Sadao Nakajima/1973) C

Not one of the better entries.

Shades. · Post by **Shades.** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:26 pm

Mary and Max (2009, Adam Elliot) - B+

I thought it was very charming and sweet.

Fist · Post by **Fist** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:27 pm

Vasco wrote:Nine.
I'm sorry.

But... but, Marion!

...and Penelope!

Epistemophobia · Post by **Epistemophobia** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:28 pm

Vasco wrote:Nine.
I'm sorry.

Cinematic sinner.

Armin · Post by **Armin** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:31 pm

I'm going for a marathon tonight! Gate of Flesh, Killing of a Chinese Bookie and moare.

Epistemophobia · Post by **Epistemophobia** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:37 pm

Armin wrote:I'm going for a marathon tonight! Gate of Flesh, Killing of a Chinese Bookie and moare.

Those are both excellent. They might even go together?

Leera · Post by **Leera** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:37 pm

I finally watched Bright Star. It officially became the third film to ever make me cry, and the first of those that I'm not ashamed to admit such an emotional response.

Epistemophobia · Post by **Epistemophobia** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:41 pm

Leera wrote:I finally watched Bright Star. It officially became the third film to ever make me cry, and the first of those that I'm not ashamed to admit such an emotional response.

Yay.

Leera · Post by **Leera** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:08 am

Epistemophobia wrote:

Yay.

Now I resolve to watch more Campion. Not even the threat of Harvey Keitel's naked self will deter me.

Orpheline · Post by **Orpheline** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:15 am

Leera wrote: Now I resolve to watch more Campion. Not even the threat of Harvey Keitel's naked self will deter me.

Harvey Keitel is damn sexy in The Piano.

Leera · Post by **Leera** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:17 am

Orpheline wrote: Harvey Keitel is damn sexy in The Piano.

Oh.

...are you sure about that? It's Harvey Keitel.

Just kidding. I was oddly attracted to Philip Seymour Hoffman in a film I watched the other day. It was terrifying.

Captain Oats · Post by **Captain Oats** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:21 am

Leera wrote:Just kidding. I was oddly attracted to Philip Seymour Hoffman in a film I watched the other day. It was terrifying.

arsch would be proud.

Orpheline · Post by **Orpheline** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:26 am

Leera wrote: Oh.

...are you sure about that? It's Harvey Keitel.

Just kidding. I was oddly attracted to Philip Seymour Hoffman in a film I watched the other day. It was terrifying.

I swear

He has a rugged masculinity that is very attractive, and a nice voice. His body really isn't bad either.

Vasco · Post by **Vasco** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:26 am

Magic Fister wrote:
But... but, Marion!

...and Penelope!
Yeah, it's not good.

Epi wrote:Cinematic sinner.

Captain Oats · Post by **Captain Oats** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:27 am

The sole good parts of that film.

Vasco · Post by **Vasco** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:36 am

Spengler wrote:The sole good parts of that film.

Rob Marshall is poo.