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Post by Ace » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:58 am

Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order is fun. I'm liking the Metroidvania aspect of it. But the combat just hasn't clicked with me. Maybe it's because I haven't gotten all the force abilities yet.
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Post by Deschain13 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:24 pm

Ace wrote:
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Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order is fun. I'm liking the Metroidvania aspect of it. But the combat just hasn't clicked with me. Maybe it's because I haven't gotten all the force abilities yet.
I’m loving it too but having a hard time with the combat as well, especially parry. The force powers definitely make things easier.

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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:33 pm

Is it just me or did Playdead's LIMBO and INSIDE not age particularly well? I replayed INSIDE last night, and I'm starting to feel like I gave the games too much credit.
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Post by Stu » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:59 am

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:33 pm
Is it just me or did Playdead's LIMBO and INSIDE not age particularly well? I replayed INSIDE last night, and I'm starting to feel like I gave the games too much credit.
I've never played either one, but I have watched other people play them on Youtube before, and I remember both of them being incredibly beautiful visually, and the various gameplay mechanics seemed unique, inventive, and constantly refreshing to witness, so out of curiosity, how didn't they age well?
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:44 pm

Stu wrote:
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I've never played either one, but I have watched other people play them on Youtube before, and I remember both of them being incredibly beautiful visually, and the various gameplay mechanics seemed unique, inventive, and constantly refreshing to witness, so out of curiosity, how didn't they age well?
The issue I have with both of these games is that they lack cohesion. With LIMBO, it starts out well as the spider and the tribal kids suggest possible meanings such as a Lord of the Flies-esque environment. After that though, the game quickly devolves into a random assortment of physics and logic based puzzles which not only say nothing about the story, but add nothing to it. With INSIDE, I think it's a better game as it has more of a story behind it, but, other than some sections of running away from adults and dogs which make sense to be in the game, I found it unbelievable that a large assortment of logic and physics based puzzles involving tasks such as pushing boxes and pulling switches happened to be conveniently placed around the environment. One of the things I look for in puzzle games are whether or not the puzzles feel organic to the game. In Portal/Portal 2, they do. With LIMBO and INSIDE though, it's like... Well, we have a storyline and a creepy atmosphere. Yeah, but we also need gameplay. No problem, let's just fill it with logic and physics based puzzles. It just feels off.
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Post by Wooley » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:40 am

Well, almost finished The Outer Worlds, kinda too late to quit now, but it is, officially, just a lesser version of multiple other popular games.
Lesser Mass Effect, Lesser Fallout, Lesser Borderlands (a little), but most importantly, just Lesser.
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Post by Torgo » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:41 pm

Subnautica is a very enjoyable survival game. It isn't always clear where you're supposed to go or what you're supposed to do next a lot of the time and the hunt for specific materials is more frustrating than it should be, but when the going is good in both regards, it's as compelling and addictive as any survival and/or RPG I've ever played.

However, I quit playing because my save file got corrupted, which seems to be a typical problem. When this happens, you lose a lot of your crafting blueprints - ones needed to advance in the game, no less - so I'm pretty much at a standstill. While it sucks that this happened, thank goodness it only happened a few hours in instead of 200+ hours in.
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:54 am

Wooley wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:40 am
Well, almost finished The Outer Worlds, kinda too late to quit now, but it is, officially, just a lesser version of multiple other popular games.
Lesser Mass Effect, Lesser Fallout, Lesser Borderlands (a little), but most importantly, just Lesser.
It's definitely a lesser Fallout: New Vegas, Fallout or Fallout 2, but I have a hard time calling it a lesser Fallout 3 or 4, as Obsidian's writing and quest design is just so much better than Bethesda's.
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Post by Wooley » Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:36 am

Bandy Greensacks wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:54 am
It's definitely a lesser Fallout: New Vegas, Fallout or Fallout 2, but I have a hard time calling it a lesser Fallout 3 or 4, as Obsidian's writing and quest design is just so much better than Bethesda's.
Honestly, one of the many things that surprised me about this game was how poorly developed every character but Parvati was and how poor the story was. I mean, I continue to be baffled by almost any bon mots for this game. I didn't think the design, the gameplay, or the story and characters were in the same league, remotely, as Mass Effect 2 or 3, which it was clearly aping hard, and I can definitely say that Fallout 3 is 10x better than this game and Fallout 4 is probably 4x. I mean, what were the good quests in this game? I don't feel like there was a memorable one after getting Parvati a girlfriend. I kept waiting to care about anything in this game other than the one standout character. And when it finally ended I was like, "Wow. You guys really didn't plan this out very well did you?"
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Post by Andrew Ryan » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:09 pm

Trip wrote:
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You know what? Bioshock suffered the same problem. Fantastic opening, then banal game crap.

I find that to be rather odd.

The opening chapter which culminates in acquiring a plasmid is a good representation of the overall game experience. Not sure how one dislikes the remainder, if you enjoyed the opening. For those who found the puzzles/camera research too tedious, both were optional. It was also the first game I can remember to utilize audiotapes to enhance the story/world building. The segmented maps all had different feels to them (Fort Frolic with Sander Cohen, Arcadia's tree farm, etc). It is unfortunate that by the end of the game, you are over-powered - which ruins the final boss fight. You really have to play the game on the harder difficulties to get the same experience throughout as you would during your first Big Daddy encounter.
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Post by Wooley » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:46 am

Bioshock is probably my favorite game of all time. I agree that the final boss-battle is a bit of a letdown, but then again, I hate boss-battles, so I was perfectly happy to have it be a matter of just being more powerful and winning so I could conclude the amazing story.
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Post by Wooley » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:51 am

I've been scampering around Oros for a few days in Farcry Primal.
Just a fun little game to play, not a ton of gravity, but lots of great gameplay and fun things to do. Perfect for a three-day weekend during which I knew I would be hung over every day and want to do nothing but play video games, and not ones requiring much thought.
I would probably rank Primal third or fourth in the overall series. In fact, I will go ahead and rank the series now and see how it comes out.

(Leaving out Far Cry, because it just doesn't really play anymore, I tried):

1. Far Cry 2
2. Far Cry: Blood Dragon
3. Far Cry 3
4. Far Cry: Primal
5. Far Cry 4
6. Far Cry: New Dawn
7. Far Cry 5
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Post by Stu » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:12 am

Wooley wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:46 am
Bioshock is probably my favorite game of all time. I agree that the final boss-battle is a bit of a letdown, but then again, I hate boss-battles, so I was perfectly happy to have it be a matter of just being more powerful and winning so I could conclude the amazing story.
I remember reading this article on The AV Club that made the point that the game's ridiculous final boss, the Big Daddy suit-fetch quest, the Little Sister escort mission, or certain other sections of Bioshock's 3rd act that came after the "a man chooses" confrontation with Andrew Ryan were actually intentional indulgences in video game cliches, meant to point out the illusion of choice inherent to pretty much every video game out there, regardless of the overall freedom afforded to the player otherwise, even in something as great as teh 'shock; check it out, if you want.
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Post by Wooley » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:14 pm

Stu wrote:
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I remember reading this article on The AV Club that made the point that the game's ridiculous final boss, the Big Daddy suit-fetch quest, the Little Sister escort mission, or certain other sections of Bioshock's 3rd act that came after the "a man chooses" confrontation with Andrew Ryan were actually intentional indulgences in video game cliches, meant to point out the illusion of choice inherent to pretty much every video game out there, regardless of the overall freedom afforded to the player otherwise, even in something as great as teh 'shock; check it out, if you want.
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Post by The Nameless One » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:17 pm

Yeah, I've read that argument towards Bioshock's final act and I think it's overwhelmingly bullshit game design philosophy. Fun first, everything else second. You don't sacrifice fun for art, especially when that art has already been sufficiently communicated. Ken Levine is kind of a mong, I'm excited for another Bioshock not directed by him as Bioshock 2 > 1
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Post by Wooley » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:57 pm

The Nameless One wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:17 pm
Yeah, I've read that argument towards Bioshock's final act and I think it's overwhelmingly bullshit game design philosophy. Fun first, everything else second. You don't sacrifice fun for art, especially when that art has already been sufficiently communicated. Ken Levine is kind of a mong, I'm excited for another Bioshock not directed by him as Bioshock 2 > 1
Yeah, I dunno about all that. Bioshock was still absolutely shit-tons of fun, arguably the most I've ever had playing a game.
On you last point, I am a real fan of Bioshock 2, but "2 > 1" is just trolling.
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Post by The Nameless One » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:33 pm

Wooley wrote:
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Yeah, I dunno about all that. Bioshock was still absolutely shit-tons of fun, arguably the most I've ever had playing a game.
On you last point, I am a real fan of Bioshock 2, but "2 > 1" is just trolling.
I will argue to the grave that Bioshock 2 is the better video game where Bioshock was ultimately a more memorable experience, like, I'm not diminishing Bioshock's strengths. I found that 2's combat scenarios were all around more satisfying and that the gameplay escalated to a proper climax where in Bioshock everything fizzles out after it's penultimate moment
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:34 pm

Bioshock is one of the few examples of doing storytelling within the video game framework right.
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Post by Andrew Ryan » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:45 pm

The Nameless One wrote:
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I will argue to the grave that Bioshock 2 is the better video game where Bioshock was ultimately a more memorable experience
Fascinating take, would make a good podcast subject for sure. Plenty of ammo for both sides


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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:17 pm

Katana Zero is quite excellent, but the title lied as more than zero katanas appear in it. Unforgivable.
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Post by Torgo » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:20 pm

Fun fact: Less That Zero is just Robert Downey Jr. saying "negative one" followed by the end credits.
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Post by Wooley » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:54 pm

Anybody here play Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice?
I'm looking for something new (to me) and I've read great things about this but so much of the positivity is how the game handles the protagonist's mental illness.
I wanna know how the fucking gameplay is.
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