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Post by Ace » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:58 am

Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order is fun. I'm liking the Metroidvania aspect of it. But the combat just hasn't clicked with me. Maybe it's because I haven't gotten all the force abilities yet.
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Post by Deschain13 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:24 pm

Ace wrote:
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Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order is fun. I'm liking the Metroidvania aspect of it. But the combat just hasn't clicked with me. Maybe it's because I haven't gotten all the force abilities yet.
I’m loving it too but having a hard time with the combat as well, especially parry. The force powers definitely make things easier.

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Re: The Video Game Thread

Post by Popcorn Reviews » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:33 pm

Is it just me or did Playdead's LIMBO and INSIDE not age particularly well? I replayed INSIDE last night, and I'm starting to feel like I gave the games too much credit.
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Post by Stu » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:59 am

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:33 pm
Is it just me or did Playdead's LIMBO and INSIDE not age particularly well? I replayed INSIDE last night, and I'm starting to feel like I gave the games too much credit.
I've never played either one, but I have watched other people play them on Youtube before, and I remember both of them being incredibly beautiful visually, and the various gameplay mechanics seemed unique, inventive, and constantly refreshing to witness, so out of curiosity, how didn't they age well?
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:44 pm

Stu wrote:
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I've never played either one, but I have watched other people play them on Youtube before, and I remember both of them being incredibly beautiful visually, and the various gameplay mechanics seemed unique, inventive, and constantly refreshing to witness, so out of curiosity, how didn't they age well?
The issue I have with both of these games is that they lack cohesion. With LIMBO, it starts out well as the spider and the tribal kids suggest possible meanings such as a Lord of the Flies-esque environment. After that though, the game quickly devolves into a random assortment of physics and logic based puzzles which not only say nothing about the story, but add nothing to it. With INSIDE, I think it's a better game as it has more of a story behind it, but, other than some sections of running away from adults and dogs which make sense to be in the game, I found it unbelievable that a large assortment of logic and physics based puzzles involving tasks such as pushing boxes and pulling switches happened to be conveniently placed around the environment. One of the things I look for in puzzle games are whether or not the puzzles feel organic to the game. In Portal/Portal 2, they do. With LIMBO and INSIDE though, it's like... Well, we have a storyline and a creepy atmosphere. Yeah, but we also need gameplay. No problem, let's just fill it with logic and physics based puzzles. It just feels off.
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Post by Wooley » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:40 am

Well, almost finished The Outer Worlds, kinda too late to quit now, but it is, officially, just a lesser version of multiple other popular games.
Lesser Mass Effect, Lesser Fallout, Lesser Borderlands (a little), but most importantly, just Lesser.
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Post by Torgo » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:41 pm

Subnautica is a very enjoyable survival game. It isn't always clear where you're supposed to go or what you're supposed to do next a lot of the time and the hunt for specific materials is more frustrating than it should be, but when the going is good in both regards, it's as compelling and addictive as any survival and/or RPG I've ever played.

However, I quit playing because my save file got corrupted, which seems to be a typical problem. When this happens, you lose a lot of your crafting blueprints - ones needed to advance in the game, no less - so I'm pretty much at a standstill. While it sucks that this happened, thank goodness it only happened a few hours in instead of 200+ hours in.
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Re: The Video Game Thread

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Wooley wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:40 am
Well, almost finished The Outer Worlds, kinda too late to quit now, but it is, officially, just a lesser version of multiple other popular games.
Lesser Mass Effect, Lesser Fallout, Lesser Borderlands (a little), but most importantly, just Lesser.
It's definitely a lesser Fallout: New Vegas, Fallout or Fallout 2, but I have a hard time calling it a lesser Fallout 3 or 4, as Obsidian's writing and quest design is just so much better than Bethesda's.
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Post by Wooley » Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:36 am

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Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:54 am
It's definitely a lesser Fallout: New Vegas, Fallout or Fallout 2, but I have a hard time calling it a lesser Fallout 3 or 4, as Obsidian's writing and quest design is just so much better than Bethesda's.
Honestly, one of the many things that surprised me about this game was how poorly developed every character but Parvati was and how poor the story was. I mean, I continue to be baffled by almost any bon mots for this game. I didn't think the design, the gameplay, or the story and characters were in the same league, remotely, as Mass Effect 2 or 3, which it was clearly aping hard, and I can definitely say that Fallout 3 is 10x better than this game and Fallout 4 is probably 4x. I mean, what were the good quests in this game? I don't feel like there was a memorable one after getting Parvati a girlfriend. I kept waiting to care about anything in this game other than the one standout character. And when it finally ended I was like, "Wow. You guys really didn't plan this out very well did you?"
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Post by Andrew Ryan » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:09 pm

Trip wrote:
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You know what? Bioshock suffered the same problem. Fantastic opening, then banal game crap.

I find that to be rather odd.

The opening chapter which culminates in acquiring a plasmid is a good representation of the overall game experience. Not sure how one dislikes the remainder, if you enjoyed the opening. For those who found the puzzles/camera research too tedious, both were optional. It was also the first game I can remember to utilize audiotapes to enhance the story/world building. The segmented maps all had different feels to them (Fort Frolic with Sander Cohen, Arcadia's tree farm, etc). It is unfortunate that by the end of the game, you are over-powered - which ruins the final boss fight. You really have to play the game on the harder difficulties to get the same experience throughout as you would during your first Big Daddy encounter.
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Post by Wooley » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:46 am

Bioshock is probably my favorite game of all time. I agree that the final boss-battle is a bit of a letdown, but then again, I hate boss-battles, so I was perfectly happy to have it be a matter of just being more powerful and winning so I could conclude the amazing story.
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Post by Wooley » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:51 am

I've been scampering around Oros for a few days in Farcry Primal.
Just a fun little game to play, not a ton of gravity, but lots of great gameplay and fun things to do. Perfect for a three-day weekend during which I knew I would be hung over every day and want to do nothing but play video games, and not ones requiring much thought.
I would probably rank Primal third or fourth in the overall series. In fact, I will go ahead and rank the series now and see how it comes out.

(Leaving out Far Cry, because it just doesn't really play anymore, I tried):

1. Far Cry 2
2. Far Cry: Blood Dragon
3. Far Cry 3
4. Far Cry: Primal
5. Far Cry 4
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Post by Stu » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:12 am

Wooley wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:46 am
Bioshock is probably my favorite game of all time. I agree that the final boss-battle is a bit of a letdown, but then again, I hate boss-battles, so I was perfectly happy to have it be a matter of just being more powerful and winning so I could conclude the amazing story.
I remember reading this article on The AV Club that made the point that the game's ridiculous final boss, the Big Daddy suit-fetch quest, the Little Sister escort mission, or certain other sections of Bioshock's 3rd act that came after the "a man chooses" confrontation with Andrew Ryan were actually intentional indulgences in video game cliches, meant to point out the illusion of choice inherent to pretty much every video game out there, regardless of the overall freedom afforded to the player otherwise, even in something as great as teh 'shock; check it out, if you want.
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Post by Wooley » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:14 pm

Stu wrote:
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I remember reading this article on The AV Club that made the point that the game's ridiculous final boss, the Big Daddy suit-fetch quest, the Little Sister escort mission, or certain other sections of Bioshock's 3rd act that came after the "a man chooses" confrontation with Andrew Ryan were actually intentional indulgences in video game cliches, meant to point out the illusion of choice inherent to pretty much every video game out there, regardless of the overall freedom afforded to the player otherwise, even in something as great as teh 'shock; check it out, if you want.
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Post by The Nameless One » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:17 pm

Yeah, I've read that argument towards Bioshock's final act and I think it's overwhelmingly bullshit game design philosophy. Fun first, everything else second. You don't sacrifice fun for art, especially when that art has already been sufficiently communicated. Ken Levine is kind of a mong, I'm excited for another Bioshock not directed by him as Bioshock 2 > 1
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Post by Wooley » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:57 pm

The Nameless One wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:17 pm
Yeah, I've read that argument towards Bioshock's final act and I think it's overwhelmingly bullshit game design philosophy. Fun first, everything else second. You don't sacrifice fun for art, especially when that art has already been sufficiently communicated. Ken Levine is kind of a mong, I'm excited for another Bioshock not directed by him as Bioshock 2 > 1
Yeah, I dunno about all that. Bioshock was still absolutely shit-tons of fun, arguably the most I've ever had playing a game.
On you last point, I am a real fan of Bioshock 2, but "2 > 1" is just trolling.
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Yeah, I dunno about all that. Bioshock was still absolutely shit-tons of fun, arguably the most I've ever had playing a game.
On you last point, I am a real fan of Bioshock 2, but "2 > 1" is just trolling.
I will argue to the grave that Bioshock 2 is the better video game where Bioshock was ultimately a more memorable experience, like, I'm not diminishing Bioshock's strengths. I found that 2's combat scenarios were all around more satisfying and that the gameplay escalated to a proper climax where in Bioshock everything fizzles out after it's penultimate moment
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:34 pm

Bioshock is one of the few examples of doing storytelling within the video game framework right.
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I will argue to the grave that Bioshock 2 is the better video game where Bioshock was ultimately a more memorable experience
Fascinating take, would make a good podcast subject for sure. Plenty of ammo for both sides


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Katana Zero is quite excellent, but the title lied as more than zero katanas appear in it. Unforgivable.
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Fun fact: Less That Zero is just Robert Downey Jr. saying "negative one" followed by the end credits.
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Post by Wooley » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:54 pm

Anybody here play Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice?
I'm looking for something new (to me) and I've read great things about this but so much of the positivity is how the game handles the protagonist's mental illness.
I wanna know how the fucking gameplay is.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:41 pm

I'm a little late to the discussion, but having played Bioshock last week for the first time, I think I agree with Nameless on some of the final stretches. They're done in good faith, but considering how the big moment already made its artistic points clear (I remember connecting the dots between the twist with myself during that scene), I can't help but think it was unnecessary for the game to end the way it did. I'll also point out though that it wasn't until the escort mission where I tuned out of it and I still consider it to be a really excellent game as a whole in spite of my issues with the final half hour or so.
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Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:41 pm
I'm a little late to the discussion, but having played Bioshock last week for the first time, I think I agree with Nameless on some of the final stretches. They're done in good faith, but considering how the big moment already made its artistic points clear (I remember connecting the dots between the twist with myself during that scene), I can't help but think it was unnecessary for the game to end the way it did. I'll also point out though that it wasn't until the escort mission where I tuned out of it and I still consider it to be a really excellent game as a whole in spite of my issues with the final half hour or so.
Now imagine if you played it 13 years ago.
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Wooley wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:22 am
Now imagine if you played it 13 years ago.
I imagine it must have been even more groundbreaking when it was released. For instance, even though I already knew about the twist, the scene still managed to send chills down my spine. Overall, it was a really suspenseful game and I had a real blast with it. Out of curiosity, have you played the System Shock games? I heard they were also really good.
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Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:05 am
I imagine it must have been even more groundbreaking when it was released. For instance, even though I already knew about the twist, the scene still managed to send chills down my spine. Overall, it was a really suspenseful game and I had a real blast with it. Out of curiosity, have you played the System Shock games? I heard they were also really good.
Bioshock just straight-up blew my mind when I played it. I've played it all the way through about 5 times at this point. For a while I just felt like nothing else I played would ever live up to it. I didn't sweat the ending because everything leading up to it had been so stunning. Once I got a handle on the game-play (I remember being simply unable to defeat the first Big Daddy and quitting the game, completely, then coming back a few months later and finding that very same battle the most fascinating and exhilarating thing I'd ever done in a game. I just wanted to play it forever.
I didn't get to play System Shock, I quit playing video games for about 7 years, the ones that actually coincided with those games. They are rebooting it though so I'll play that version when it comes out.
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Re: The Video Game Thread

Post by Popcorn Reviews » Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:46 pm

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Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:40 pm
Bioshock just straight-up blew my mind when I played it. I've played it all the way through about 5 times at this point. For a while I just felt like nothing else I played would ever live up to it. I didn't sweat the ending because everything leading up to it had been so stunning. Once I got a handle on the game-play (I remember being simply unable to defeat the first Big Daddy and quitting the game, completely, then coming back a few months later and finding that very same battle the most fascinating and exhilarating thing I'd ever done in a game. I just wanted to play it forever.
I didn't get to play System Shock, I quit playing video games for about 7 years, the ones that actually coincided with those games. They are rebooting it though so I'll play that version when it comes out.
It's definitely a fantastic game. Just to point out, I don't mean to imply that my issues with the ending stretches are that significant as a whole. I'm usually able to overlook weak endings in general (games, movies, books, etc.), and I still think this game is really excellent and I can understand why it gets ranked along other games as one of the greatest of all time.
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Post by Wooley » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:01 pm

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:46 pm
It's definitely a fantastic game. Just to point out, I don't mean to imply that my issues with the ending stretches are that significant as a whole. I'm usually able to overlook weak endings in general (games, movies, books, etc.), and I still think this game is really excellent and I can understand why it gets ranked along other games as one of the greatest of all time.
I hear ya. In a weird way, I actually enjoyed the final boss-battle because... I hate boss battles. Hate 'em. One of my least favorite things in games.
One of the things I liked most about Bioshock was that, with the Big Daddies, I didn't really realize that they were sort of Boss Battles until after I'd played the games a few times and also played more games. The way the game is set up, I feel like you don't even actually have to fight them to get through except maybe in certain scenarios, you can basically play the whole game like survival horror... which it was for me the first couple of times I played it because I just wasn't good enough to do it any other way. By the time I finished fighting a BD, I had no ammo left to fight anything else and would have to sneak around, avoiding situations, trying to find ways to gather some ammo, taking out weaker enemies with the wrench to get their bullets, etc.
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Staying at home more has me revisiting some games I played in my youth and others I never got around to.

Super Metroid is still a perfect game, and I'll hear no dissenting opinions.

The 16-bit Mortal Kombat games are, unfortunately, Not Very Good. Nostalgia for days, enjoyably stupid with its transgressive "my first gore" style, but every character plays the same, with the same moveset, and the enemy AI predicts your moves way too easily. Despite its more cartoony aesthetic, Street Fighter II plays so much better that it's almost embarrassing.

Hook for the NES is one I played a lot as a kid, and while it's super basic platforming most of the time, the sprites are big and clear, the levels make use of environmental changes (the pirate levels are deadly, the cave levels add a gate system, the marine levels making catching air critical), they actually pull off a sort of Pilotwings flying system, and if you're good you can probably clear it in an hour and change.

Star Wars for the Game Boy was a million-seller in its day. I don't know how I reached the end as a kid, because playing it now, wow, this game just reeks.

Resident Evil 3 (PSX), so far, is a pretty fun evolution of the first two games. The city concept keeps things a bit more unpredictable after the mansion mechanics of the first two games, the Nemesis element juices the adrenaline in a way that's cheap but undeniable, and some small-but-critical improvements (like the 180-turn option and infinite ribbons) make less of the game's suspense contrived. Although Jill Valentine dressed in her go-go boots and strapless top stretched credulity even then.
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In other news, Control is pretty darn cool.
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Post by Deschain13 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:43 pm

Damu I agree about Super Metroid and RE3. Can’t wait for the remake on Friday.

Doom Eternal is phenomenal. And I just started Link’s Awakening which is delightful.
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And I just started Link’s Awakening which is delightful.
The o.g. game is my favorite Zelda. The remake is one of the games that's really making me want a Switch.
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The o.g. game is my favorite Zelda. The remake is one of the games that's really making me want a Switch.
Same. Also arguably my favorite video game, period - certainly a pivotal experience at the very least. I have a Switch but haven't played the remake yet.
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Post by DaMU » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:29 pm

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Same. Also arguably my favorite video game, period - certainly a pivotal experience at the very least. I have a Switch but haven't played the remake yet.
If you have the time (and it's a chunk), Tim Rogers of Kotaku and ActionButtonDotNet breaks down the first 30 minutes of play in this video, and it's a super-interesting look at how carefully the game teaches you how to play it.

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Re: The Video Game Thread

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Deschain13 wrote:
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Doom Eternal is phenomenal. And I just started Link’s Awakening which is delightful.
You finished Doom Eternal already?
I just found out it had been released.
Is it as good as its predecessor?
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Post by Torgo » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:15 pm

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night has been keeping me sane. It's very similar to Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, but that's hardly a drawback. Besides, it has some crafting, cooking and special ability crystals (shards) that that game does not have and that I may be more obsessed with than the main story.
Some of the cooking recipes, however, are very strange, most notable Berry Spaghetti (a concoction of spaghetti, berries and whipped cream). I'm very tempted to make that myself, especially since some fans have written recipes for it.
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Post by Wooley » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:25 pm

I get the sense that platformers are the most popular games on this forum.
Yes?
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Re: The Video Game Thread

Post by Deschain13 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:30 pm

Wooley wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:08 pm
You finished Doom Eternal already?
I just found out it had been released.
Is it as good as its predecessor?
I loved Doom 2016 but Eternal is a step up for sure. It took me about a week to get through the main campaign on Hurt Me Plenty.
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Re: The Video Game Thread

Post by Torgo » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:11 pm

Wooley wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:25 pm
I get the sense that platformers are the most popular games on this forum.
Yes?
A lot, if not most, of my favorite games of all time are FPS's (Deus Ex, Half-Life, the Elder Scrolls games, etc.)
However, I'm playing a lot more platformers lately because I've played all of the good FPS's! Plus, besides Doom, Wolfenstein and maybe Far Cry, it seems like they're making more multiplayer FPS's than ones with solo campaigns, which I don't really care about.
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Re: The Video Game Thread

Post by Wooley » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:52 pm

Torgo wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:11 pm
A lot, if not most, of my favorite games of all time are FPS's (Deus Ex, Half-Life, the Elder Scrolls games, etc.)
However, I'm playing a lot more platformers lately because I've played all of the good FPS's! Plus, besides Doom, Wolfenstein and maybe Far Cry, it seems like they're making more multiplayer FPS's than ones with solo campaigns, which I don't really care about.
Well, they've had some good FPSs lately, Horizon (my favorite game of the last few years), Control, Prey (fucking loved this game, played it again as soon as I finished it), The Outer Worlds (not my favorite, honestly), Dishonored: Death Of The Outsider, Far Cry: New Dawn, Borderlands 3, A Plague Tale, ... you get the point.
I guess it just seems like most of the TALK here is about the platformers, but I could be wrong.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:48 pm

I think I like FPS games the most as well, or that tends to be what I replay the most. Platformers are often a blast to play as well, even though I've only played a handful of them.

Speaking of FPS's, has anyone played Half-Life: Alyx? Since I don't own a VR headset, I can't play it, but I've watched a walkthrough of it and it looks really good. Not gimmicky like Half-Life 2 :shifty: and it introduces a variety of new mechanics to the franchise, outside of the VR components of course.
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Re: The Video Game Thread

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Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:48 pm
I think I like FPS games the most as well, or that tends to be what I replay the most. Platformers are often a blast to play as well, even though I've only played a handful of them.

Speaking of FPS's, has anyone played Half-Life: Alyx? Since I don't own a VR headset, I can't play it, but I've watched a walkthrough of it and it looks really good. Not gimmicky like Half-Life 2 :shifty: and it introduces a variety of new mechanics to the franchise, outside of the VR components of course.
Um, wut did you say about Half-Life 2, motherfucker?
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Re: The Video Game Thread

Post by Popcorn Reviews » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:32 pm

Wooley wrote:
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Um, wut did you say about Half-Life 2, motherfucker?
It's a controversial opinion for sure. I loved the level design of the game in the way that you didn't notice the linearity one bit, I loved the visual storytelling in the way that if you pay close attention to the scenery, you're able to pick up on a bunch of details, and the gravity gun (which is technically a gimmick, but a well-executed one). It also has a couple really good chapters and one excellent one (Ravenholm). As for the majority of the individual chapters though, I felt like many of them were based around gimmicks which broke the flow of the game quite often (the vehicle sections, controlling the antlions, the super charged gravity gun, etc). While some of these gimmicks were initially fun, I also got the impression that too many of them went on for too long and that some weren't fun from the start. As for Half-Life 1, while it has its set pieces, it mostly felt like one central mechanic with a proper difficulty curve. I've played it a number of times and had a blast each playthrough. It's endlessly replayable. With Half-Life 2, it's super tight and well-considered, but it feels like it's meant to be played only a couple times as I got from a second playthrough of it.
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Re: The Video Game Thread

Post by Torgo » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:20 am

Take a stroll through Ravenholm for that one.
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Re: The Video Game Thread

Post by Wooley » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:44 am

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:32 pm
It's a controversial opinion for sure. I loved the level design of the game in the way that you didn't notice the linearity one bit, I loved the visual storytelling in the way that if you pay close attention to the scenery, you're able to pick up on a bunch of details, and the gravity gun (which is technically a gimmick, but a well-executed one). It also has a couple really good chapters and one excellent one (Ravenholm). As for the majority of the individual chapters though, I felt like many of them were based around gimmicks which broke the flow of the game quite often (the vehicle sections, controlling the antlions, the super charged gravity gun, etc). While some of these gimmicks were initially fun, I also got the impression that too many of them went on for too long and that some weren't fun from the start. As for Half-Life 1, while it has its set pieces, it mostly felt like one central mechanic with a proper difficulty curve. I've played it a number of times and had a blast each playthrough. It's endlessly replayable. With Half-Life 2, it's super tight and well-considered, but it feels like it's meant to be played only a couple times as I got from a second playthrough of it.
I reject the word "gimmick".
Otherwise, though you are insane, I respect your opinion.
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Re: The Video Game Thread

Post by Macrology » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:47 am

I wouldn't throw around the word gimmick for HL2, but I'm not the hugest fan, either. I enjoyed it well enough, but it didn't leave me terribly impressed considering the acclaim.

But I also played it several years after it came out, and a lot of its innovations were already looking pretty rusty (like the on-rails cut-scenes that aren't supposed to feel like cut-scenes that Valve has such a hard-on for).
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