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The Movements of the Die

Post by Trip » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:51 am

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I want more order in my film viewing, so rather than jumping around all over the place cinematically,
I have devised this gimmick in order to force myself to explore a portion of a director's work at once.
In this way, I will: view supposedly lesser (or just underseen) films from directors I already know and
love, thrustfully break my virginity with a few filmmakers unknown to me, have the ability to compare
and contrast while the memories are fresh, and be able to choose a film to watch with ease.
The irony is that in finding order I leave it to chance; the roll of a die.

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I developed a list of applicable filmmakers, and used an online randomiser to, well, make the order
entirely random. To play, I go down the list one by one, rolling a die to determine how many of said
director's films I must watch before moving on. At least two films, at most five. One isn't enough to
denote a "movement" and so when this is rolled, I jump down the list 20 places starting at the director
rolled upon. To give the guys at the bottom a chance. So what about a roll of six? I thought six might
be too many films to leave in the game, so instead I roll the die again and play a "Sixer" round: a
viewing of two films of whatever the number corresponds to (shown below). That's the gimmick. The
rest consists of me returning here to write a bit on each film. There will be images.

Naturally, if I roll a six I don't skip that director I rolled it on, I just play him after the Sixer round.

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Image Short films
Image Horror films
Image Previously-seen films
Image Another poster's idiosyncratic faves
Image Popular films
Image Obscure films

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1. Raoul Ruiz (3)
◊ Popular Films (2)
2. Alfred Hitchcock (2)
3. Shôhei Imamura (5)
4. Erich von Stroheim (4)
◊ Short Films (2)
5. Miklós Jancsó
6. Raymond Bernard
7. Lav Diaz
8. Koreyoshi Kurahara
9. Nicholas Ray
10. Luc Moullet
11. Michelangelo Antonioni
12. Dušan Makavejev
13. Yoshishige Yoshida
14. Satyajit Ray
15. Yasuzo Masumura
16. Abel Ferrara
17. Andrzej Wajda
18. Ken Jacobs
19. Chantal Akerman
20. Julián Hernández
21. Sharunas Bartas
22. Brillante Mendoza
23. Nagisa Ôshima
24. Hiroshi Shimizu
25. Frederick Wiseman
26. Nobuhiro Suwa
27. Vera Chytilová
28. Alexander Korda
29. Glauber Rocha
30. Claude Chabrol
31. Aleksandr Sokurov
32. Hector Babenco
33. Yasujirô Ozu
34. Frantisek Vlácil
35. Orson Welles
36. Mikio Naruse
37. F.W. Murnau
38. Shunji Iwai
39. Josef von Sternberg
40. R.W. Fassbinder
41. Peter Watkins
42. Kenji Mizoguchi
43. René Clément
44. Konstantin Lopushansky
45. Jean Rouch
46. Jean-Pierre Melville
47. Shuji Terayama
48. Krzysztof Zanussi
49. Jacques Rivette
50. Kazuo Hara
51. Chris Marker
52. Sacha Guitry
53. István Szabó
54. Philippe Garrel
55. Manoel de Oliveira
56. Ermanno Olmi
57. Jean Renoir
58. Seijun Suzuki
59. Allan King
60. Elia Kazan
61. Boris Barnet
62. William Klein
63. Max Ophüls
64. Jean-Luc Godard
65. Basil Dearden
66. Emilio Fernández
67. Frank Borzage
68. Wim Wenders
69. D.W. Griffith
70. Carmelo Bene
71. Roberto Rossellini
72. Marcel L'Herbier
73. Zoltán Fábri
74. Dariush Mehrjui
75. Tengiz Abuladze
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Re: The Movements of the Die

Post by B-Side » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:54 am

Awesome. :)
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Post by Trip » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:55 am

Brightside wrote:Awesome. :)
Ruiz #1 :D
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Re: The Movements of the Die

Post by B-Side » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:56 am

Trip wrote: Ruiz #1 :D
I hadn't run down the list yet, but yay. :D
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Post by Epistemophobia » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:02 am

Holy fuck.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:04 am

It's so beautiful.
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Post by Rdog » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:06 am

This is going to be amazing.
Way cooler than Wil
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Ohh, creative... and green.
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Re: The Movements of the Die

Post by Trip » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:51 am

Haha, rolling it made me anxious.

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Post by B-Side » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:54 am

Do we get to see what films you'll be watching, or are you gonna make us wait?
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Re: The Movements of the Die

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Brightside wrote:Do we get to see what films you'll be watching, or are you gonna make us wait?
Uh...I might let the thread know what they are in advance, I might not. Depends if I know.

I have those four contemporary Ruiz's you rec'd me recently, so maybe three of those! Or I could span it out. Oh yes, I got The Territory last week.
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Post by B-Side » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:59 am

Trip wrote:Uh...I might let the thread know what they are in advance, I might not. Depends if I know.

I have those four contemporary Ruiz's you rec'd me recently, so maybe three of those! Or I could span it out. Oh yes, I got The Territory last week.
I say mix it up a bit. Some contemporary, some earlier. I'm greatly anticipating your thoughts. :)
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Re: The Movements of the Die

Post by Trip » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:04 am

Brightside wrote:
I say mix it up a bit. Some contemporary, some earlier. I'm greatly anticipating your thoughts. :)
I'm greatly anticipating your coh- umm, yeah, I'll mix it up.
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:21 am

It's like my whole life has been leading up to this point...
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Re: The Movements of the Die

Post by Circus Freak » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:58 am

Order? It comes as a result of investing such power in the roll of a die, and at the expense of all control and free will...I consider this to be a suicide mission.
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Post by Pathétique » Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:47 pm

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Post by Sinister » Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:04 pm

Cool.
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Post by Quite-Gone Genie » Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:09 pm

Novel idea. I wish you luck.
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Post by ribbon » Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:53 pm

This is amazing, iluvudie.
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Post by Fist » Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:13 pm

It's like Liar's Dice! Except entirely different. And with more Ruiz.
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Post by Fabian Thomsett » Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:29 pm

You should use the I Ching to determine the frame of mind you're going to be in in order to watch the films. That way, you will slowly start to believe that the films you watch are a figment of your imagination.
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Post by Subhadip » Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:37 pm

Cool! I'll be watching. And Ruiz #1 :up:
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Re: The Movements of the Die

Post by Major Nutbar » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:09 pm

You want to watch as much Mikio Naruse as you can. Fuck those other direcors.
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Post by dreiser » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:04 pm

You've outdone yourself this time, Trip.
"I hate the dark, the sharks liars. And the stems of cherry..."

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Post by La Spectatrice Deviante » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:47 pm

Awesome idea. :up:
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Post by Derninan » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:15 pm

I feel alive.
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Post by Gort » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:42 pm

Trip, you have formalized what I feel every time I go to the library to borrow a movie: seeing what I will enjoy is a crap shoot.

I'll be watching your reports of watching.
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Post by Oaktown » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:03 pm

Wow this is ambitious. I hope you make it to number 35 at least.
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I'm here.
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This looks to be wonderful. :heart:
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Post by dreiser » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:51 am

Can I be the poster that gives you my idiosyncratic fave?
"I hate the dark, the sharks liars. And the stems of cherry..."

Like Someone in Love (Kiarostami, 2012) 4/10
Killing Them Softly (Dominik, 2012) 2/10
The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm (Pal/Levin, 1962) 6/10
The Dark Past (Mate', 1948) 7/10
New Rose Hotel (Ferrara, 1998) 3/10
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Post by Trip » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:55 am

Thanks everybody! Going to a friend's tonight, can't start :\
dreiser wrote:Can I be the poster that gives you my idiosyncratic fave?
I haven't figured this out yet. Also, it's two faves.

We'll sort that out when it happens, if it does.
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Post by Fist » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:57 am

Can't wait till you get to Yoshida and Akerman.
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This thread sucks already.
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Post by Derninan » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:16 pm

Derninan wrote:I feel alive.
I'm slowly dying. Need an entry!
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Post by Circus Freak » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:30 pm

This is already going to require a incomprehensible amount of time to complete. Why not delay it more?
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Post by dreiser » Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:04 am

Circus Freak wrote:This is already going to require a incomprehensible amount of time to complete. Why not delay it more?
Makes sense.
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Killing Them Softly (Dominik, 2012) 2/10
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Post by Trip » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:47 am

Image Image of three

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The Territory (1981)

Ruiz is tougher to peg down than most filmmakers. Certainly he seems to be interested in unusual narratives,
or conventional narratives made complicated, often by the surreal. I get the impression he likes to spin his
films, and his joy is in the spinning. He investigates, but it's often (always?) beside the point that he find
answers, if he does. Whether all this is an accurate pigeonholing of an artist who rather seems to avoid just
that, I don't know as of yet. So what is The Territory? It's not much of an investigation, but there are signs and
symbols, and some mystery. As for its narrative, it's a linear progression of events deranged skillfully by its
surrealism. Considering the stagnant nature of the premise, in which our hikers become desperately lost inside
a sort-of metaphysical forest, the film appropriately (and maybe at times tryingly) stagnates as well. By this I
mean it formally compliments, or should I say it accentuates, the maddening dead-endedness of the situation.
The situation itself is harder to discern. Maybe there's nothing supernatural about the forest and their forever
searching a way out follows The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie's endless road to finding somewhere to eat.
Thus, it may simply be a narrative ploy to mount this bizarre tale of group dynamics and human morals in
disarray. The aesthetic becomes poisoned over time with colourful overlays further removing us from the
comparatively sane (but still unsettling) first act. The acting must be mentioned. It's just as odd as anything
else in the movie. It's certainly "bad" in the traditional sense, but it's also so, so right. What's striking is that
one of the actresses delivers a genuinely great and unexpected monologue towards the end full of insecure
nuance. Ultimately, I'm still not sure what The Territory is about, but I liked whatever it was.

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Post by Fist » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:55 am

Best thread ever.
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Mm, I'd love to explore more Ruiz. Have only seen Klimt & it was looovely.
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Post by Quite-Gone Genie » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:00 am

I'm going to watch the hell out of that film sometime soon. It's time for another Ruiz binge.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:05 am

More or less my thoughts too. :)
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Post by Mod Hip » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:07 am

getrhythm wrote:Mm, I'd love to explore more Ruiz. Have only seen Klimt & it was looovely.
Epistemophibia wrote:More or less my thoughts too. :)
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:11 am

This thread is already amazing. It's mind-boggling just how good it's going to get! :)
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Post by Trip » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:56 am

Thanks guys.

I hope I don't roll a 5 on Lav Diaz :\
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Post by Epistemophobia » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:59 am

Trip wrote:Thanks guys.

I hope I don't roll a 5 on Lav Diaz :\
It's worth it.
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Re: The Movements of the Die

Post by B-Side » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:40 am

Great write-up. I may watch that tonight. Ruiz mentioned he wanted it to feel like B movie, so that would explain the acting, most likely.
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Post by Trip » Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:03 am

I forgot to mention, though it seems Epi did in his blog write-up, that Wim Wenders curiously borrowed the entire cast and crew of The Territory for his The State of Things, which is about the making of a movie set in the woods. Absolutely have to watch it now.
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Post by Quite-Gone Genie » Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:05 am

Leftover film stock from The State of Things was used to film Stranger Than Paradise. The circle of cinema!
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