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Post by Loose Seal » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:35 pm

No, it's would not be the same if Park or Selick just used CG. There's a certain feel that CG can't capture, just watch Flushed Away (but I'd rather you didn't) and the trailers for Arthur Christmas and you'll see. Hell, even the Hoodwinked movies were supposed to capture the charms of stop-motion, and they obviously failed.
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Post by Macrology » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:56 pm

You're right, there is a difference -- like I said, I'm glad they do stop motion rather than CG -- but it's a less marked difference than you get in some other stop motion (the first time I saw the Coraline trailer, I thought it was CG). I tend to believe that stop-motion requires a patience and a certain sensibility that gives the animators a better eye for detail and nuance, but I just don't find Nick Park's claymation or Henry Selick's flawless figurines as compelling as Svankmajer's pig tongues and Jiri Barta's woodcut cut-outs. The difference is this: when you watch Coraline, you don't look at Coraline and think that she looks like a doll. When I watch stop-motion, I like to feel that transformation. Again, I don't want to criticize Park or Selick because I think they do great work. This is just my particular outlook on it.
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Post by Loose Seal » Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:32 pm

Speaking of stop-motion, here's the trailer for Laika's ParaNorman

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=83674

Next year is going to be so much better for animation. Brave, The Pirates!, ParaNorman, Frankenweenie, Wreck-it Ralph, The Lorax. Even Rise of the Guardians could be interesting, but it could easily be a failure.

But there's also Madagascar 3, so it's not all good.
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Post by Gort » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:32 pm

I just finished streaming A Christmas Carol (Zemeckis, 2009). I don't suffer from the uncanny valley effect at all. And I suppose I'm a sentimental old fool, but I was rather touched by the presentation, just as I am when I read the story.

I'm quite certain that the story was sappy when it was first published. Also, I am quite certain that it saved Charles Dickens's ass from bankruptcy. It has rather broad appeal, which is a strong negative to some. I put off watching this until I could see it more or less for "free," and kind of wish I'd seen it in the theater, now.
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Post by Loose Seal » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:07 pm

Gort wrote:I just finished streaming A Christmas Carol (Zemeckis, 2009). I don't suffer from the uncanny valley effect at all. And I suppose I'm a sentimental old fool, but I was rather touched by the presentation, just as I am when I read the story.

I'm quite certain that the story was sappy when it was first published. Also, I am quite certain that it saved Charles Dickens's ass from bankruptcy. It has rather broad appeal, which is a strong negative to some. I put off watching this until I could see it more or less for "free," and kind of wish I'd seen it in the theater, now.
There is plenty of uncanny valley going on in that. The thing is is that it is not as bad as The Polar Express. The characters that suffer the least are Jim Carrey's characters, mostly because unlike every other character in the movie they actually took the time to make them individual, to give them unique features. The rest are blandly designed, and as a result the UV is more noticeable.

As for the movie, it's pretty good. I applaud it for trying to be a bit different, even if in the end it feels uneventful. I'll give it another go this holiday season, though. My favorite version of the story, though, is Mickey's Christmas Carol.
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Loose Seal wrote:
There is plenty of uncanny valley going on in that. The thing is is that it is not as bad as The Polar Express. The characters that suffer the least are Jim Carrey's characters, mostly because unlike every other character in the movie they actually took the time to make them individual, to give them unique features. The rest are blandly designed, and as a result the UV is more noticeable.

As for the movie, it's pretty good. I applaud it for trying to be a bit different, even if in the end it feels uneventful. I'll give it another go this holiday season, though. My favorite version of the story, though, is Mickey's Christmas Carol.
I'm not sure I've ever seen Mickey's version.

And what I meant by my remark about uncanny valley, is that I personally have never experienced it. My brain isn't baffled, or offended, or repelled, or whatever it is that others experience when confronted by CGI characters that approach "realism." In fact, I think they are cool. To wit: The Polar Express was simply really nifty looking to my eye! I saw it as a very close approximation of the style used in the book (which I used to check out of the library from my kids, I think...I know I used to check out many of his books).
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Chaotic wrote:Didnt know the actor who voiced Zuko in TLA was Rufio. my mind has been blown.
It happened to me the first time as well. He's wonderful.
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The animated films that will qualify for the Animated Feature Oscar

“The Adventures of Tintin”
“Alois Nebel”
“Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked”
“Arthur Christmas”
“Cars 2″
“A Cat in Paris”
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“Happy Feet Two”
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“Kung Fu Panda 2″
“Mars Needs Moms”
“Puss in Boots”
“Rango”
“Rio”
“The Smurfs”
“Winnie the Pooh”
“Wrinkles”

The bolded are my predictions, unless Happy Feet bombs.
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Any Don Hertzfeldt fans in this joint?
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Yeah, but it's one of his lesser films. Everything Will Be Ok is in my top 20. Yes, all time.
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Post by Mysterious F. » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:32 pm

Rejected is in my Top 10 for the previous decade.

The Meaning of Life, Billy's Balloon, and his episodes for The Animation Show are also great.
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Wolf of the Winter wrote:It happened to me the first time as well. He's wonderful.
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Yeah, but it's one of his lesser films. Everything Will Be Ok is in my top 20. Yes, all time.
Have you seen I Am So Proud of You? I adore Everything Will Be OK, but his technique became considerably more sophisticated with the follow-up and it's a beautiful piece of work. I can't wait to see It's Such a Beautiful Day, the last in the trilogy. He's touring it starting this month. I'm hoping he stops in New Orleans in 2012 but I have low expectations. Poster for the tour.

I read Hertzfeldt's journal on a semi-regular basis, every few weeks or so. Consistently entertaining. He's one of the few filmmakers I follow regularly, partly because he makes it so easy to keep up with his progress.
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Macrology wrote:
Have you seen I Am So Proud of You? I adore Everything Will Be OK, but his technique became considerably more sophisticated with the follow-up and it's a beautiful piece of work. I can't wait to see It's Such a Beautiful Day, the last in the trilogy. He's touring it starting this month. I'm hoping he stops in New Orleans in 2012 but I have low expectations. Poster for the tour.

I read Hertzfeldt's journal on a semi-regular basis, every few weeks or so. Consistently entertaining. He's one of the few filmmakers I follow regularly, partly because he makes it so easy to keep up with his progress.
I've downloaded I Am So Proud of You but am sort of afraid to watch it because of how much I've built it up for myself already. The new one looks great as well, I might just wait until it comes out to watch all 3 (again in EWBOK's case)
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Here are the trailers for the foreign animated entries for Oscar. Wrinkles looks like it's definitely one to watch out for, but A Cat in Paris looks like it will be the best






This one is also its country's entry for Foreign Language Film


This one has been online for a while but haven't gotten around to it.
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I remember being impressed by Chico & Rita when I saw it, vibrant and lovely animation. Captures the culture and music of its era really well.
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Post by Wolf of the Winter » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:23 pm

Loose Seal wrote:The animated films that will qualify for the Animated Feature Oscar

“The Adventures of Tintin”
“Alois Nebel”
“Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked”
“Arthur Christmas”
“Cars 2″
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“Kung Fu Panda 2″
“Mars Needs Moms”
“Puss in Boots”
“Rango”
“Rio”
“The Smurfs”
“Winnie the Pooh”
“Wrinkles”

The bolded are my predictions, unless Happy Feet bombs.
No Kung Fu Panda 2?
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Wolf of the Winter wrote:No Kung Fu Panda 2?
Those dudes are geniuses.
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Ace wrote:IDK I'd have to look back through them. Really tough
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Wolf of the Winter wrote:No Kung Fu Panda 2?
Those dudes are geniuses.
Top 10 episodes?
KFP2? Maybe, but Puss will be fresher on the voters's minds.
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Loose Seal wrote:KFP2? Maybe, but Puss will be fresher on the voters's minds.
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Wolf of the Winter wrote:Wuss.
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Well, Kung-Fu Panda 2 was excellent.
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Good to hear about Kung Fu Panda. I really like the first.
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Holy crap someone on Rotten Tomatoes just posted that Teen Titans is coming back for some chibi shorts during commercial breaks!

(shut the fuck up that show was adorable :x )
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Rasaokis wrote:Holy crap someone on Rotten Tomatoes just posted that Teen Titans is coming back for some chibi shorts during commercial breaks!

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Rasaokis wrote:Holy crap someone on Rotten Tomatoes just posted that Teen Titans is coming back for some chibi shorts during commercial breaks!

(shut the fuck up that show was adorable :x )
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Saw several animated previews before Hugo

ParaNorman 3d- Looks amazing.
The Pirates 3D- Looks fun. Aardman never disapoints
The Lorax 3D-Looks fun. Despicable Me was a big surpise.
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Oh my gosh!!! Oh my Gosh!!! OH MY GOSH!!!!!
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Woah.

Wait, his son?!
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Disturbing on so many levels.
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Half-watching the marathon of Batman cartoons that's on The Hub today, and damn, that knock against Joel S in "Legends Of Dark Knight" is mean :D
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So, opinions on Avatar: The Legend of Korra?
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Wolf of the Winter wrote:So, opinions on Avatar: The Legend of Korra?
Nickelodeon using animatics in their commercial rather than actual clips from the show is baffling.
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