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Re: a young person's guide to cinema

Post by Trip » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:08 am

where's sailor moon
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Re: a young person's guide to cinema

Post by Verite » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:10 am

charulata wrote:I should get to Honey & Clover. But I also downloaded Flowers of Evil. Pick the ones you'd rec to me as well, pls rourou.
Eikichi Onizuka (Great Teacher Onizuka) is hornier than all of the men in Ozu's filmography combined. Highly recommended.
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Post by Fist » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:12 am

Lots of recs from that. Some of my favorite animes as well. Fuck I want to watch Kids on the Slope again. And Haibane Renmei. Escaflowne is badass. Def need to check out your #1.
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Post by roujin » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:12 am

Onizuka was also my role model as a teacher.
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Post by Das » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:22 am

Onizuka should be every teacher's role model.
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Re: a young person's guide to cinema

Post by Fist » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:32 am

Downloading Onizuka and Maison Ikkoku for a start.
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Re: a young person's guide to cinema

Post by roujin » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:37 am

don't expect anything aesthetically interesting. they're both pretty much comedies. the latter is very moving to me.
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Post by Fist » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:38 am

They both seem pretty great from what I'm reading about them.
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Post by flieger » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:46 am

my boss my hero is in my possession
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Re: a young person's guide to cinema

Post by roujin » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:49 am

IS IT THE GREATEST COMEDIC WORK SINCE JERRY LEWIS
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Re: a young person's guide to cinema

Post by flieger » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:53 am

i base my opinions solely on your screenshots, so yes
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Post by Verite » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:50 am

roujin wrote:don't expect anything aesthetically interesting.
Aggressive foregrounds (Soviets in the 20s, Americans in the 40s & 50s, Ruiz, et al) --
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that late 90s color palette.
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Post by Fist » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:45 pm

Ahhh can't wait.
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Post by charulata » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:51 pm

alright. getting Onizuka now!
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can't wait for everyone to be disappointed
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Post by roujin » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:00 pm

wrote some about Tatta Hitotsu no Koi and its screenwriter Eriko Kitagawa.
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Ping Pong | Fumihiko Sori | 2002

yep, definitely a roujin movie. <3
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:D
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:)
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:21 am

flieger wrote:Image
Pretty sure this one isn't true. :D

Love that movie!
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Ver, you need to watch City Hunter.
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Post by roujin » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:27 pm

yes
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Post by undinum » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:11 am

Words on Wellman! Words on Wellman!
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Post by roujin » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:28 pm

Will think of something.
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Land of the Pharaohs (Howard Hawks, 1955)

Reminded me most of Red River than anything else. It's a weird project for Hawks. Most of his attention seems to be in the scenes where the pyramid is being built. He captures the scope and achievement of it extremely well. There are these really great non-narrative almost musical sequences that consist of nothing but footage of the thousands of extras dragging rocks. The problem of the film is that Hawks' characters remain abstract; more symbols for the traits that they embody than anything else.

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Young America (Frank Borzage, 1932)

Borzage's compassionate gaze falls on a young kid who's known as the worst kid in the town. Opening up with a series of brief "juvenile court" sketches presided over by Ralph Bellamy's stern and yet lackadaisical judge, Borzage then moves on to focus on the particulars of one kid's story. Instead of the traditional Borzage romance, we get a beautiful friendship between boys (lying for each other, stealing for each other, and ultimately, witnessing). The kids are sublime and awkward, imperfect in their expression and emoting (reminded me a little bit of how the kid in Hereafter acted, of all things), while the grownups (Tracy, Bellamy, etc) are mostly negligible. There's an overbearing message about understanding troubled youth and not being quick to punish, but it's small potatoes when compared to the complexity and social nuance behind the image of our small protagonist, seemingly sacrificing his new home, taking one last look at the couple who took him.

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In Vanda's Room (Pedro Costa, 2000)

A series of tableaux of ghosts drifting in and out of rooms. Less a narrative than a portrait of faces, needles, coughing, the dying of the light. People wander in and out of frames, mini-storylines are often advanced off-screen in overheard snatches of dialogue, the camera never moving, never judging, compassionate yet distant, another object in the room. Ossos, though an accomplished film, often felt like ill-considered Bresson aping. Here Costa finds a novel and wholly beautiful way to consider his subjects. I can't wait to see what he comes up with for Colossal Youth.

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Workers for the Good Lord (Jean-Claude Brisseau, 2000)

A riff on the "lovers on the lam" that turns baroque and bizarre as it goes on, verging on transcendence (as all Brisseau does), while flitting about genre after genre (Marxist melodrama, action picture, erotic comedy?) sometimes within the same scene.
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Heroes for Sale (William A. Wellman, 1933)

Movie #1: great war film; muddy battle scenes that are all chaos, fear and death; reversal of fates, ironies, etc.

Movie #2: drug addiction melodrama; the antsyness, the constant need; how it eats him alive and brings him shame.

Movie #3: good old fashioned working class romance; loretta young's eyes, diners, laundry joints and paychecks.

Movie #4: proletarian social justice movie; machines vs. humans, the pursuit of leisure, the rights of workers.

Movie #5: brutal depression era fable; radical depiction of solidarity amongst workers (and mob justice), the equality of man, an almost enlightened view of humanity, its foibles and its spirit of perseverance.

All of this is in 70 minutes.
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Post by flieger » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:48 am

roujin wrote: Reminded me most of Red River than anything else.
"The Pharaoh is the cattle baron, his jewels are the cattle, and the Nile is the Red River." - William Faulkner

EDIT: Hawks later lamented that he "didn't know how a Pharaoh talked".
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Post by roujin » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:56 am

Makes sense.
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Post by Fist » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:09 pm

need to get into Costa more
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Post by charulata » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:45 pm

I knew you'd like In Vanda's Room better.
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:50 pm

flieger wrote:Ping Pong | Fumihiko Sori | 2002
I adore this film.
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Post by ribbon » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:07 pm

Wanna see that Wellman probs. Vanda's Room as well.
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Post by roujin » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:13 pm

i should write about movies
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:18 pm

Yes, but only ones involving table tennis contests.
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Post by roujin » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:20 pm

Please direct me to those movies.
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Heroes of the East (Lau Kar-Leung, 1978)

This is like some comedy of re-marriage which then morphs into a martial arts showcase of the highest order. Gordon Liu and his Japanese wife duke it out like they're in a screwball comedy, except instead of talking, they fight. And it's pretty hilarious. Then, trying to win his wife back, Liu somehow starts an international martial arts conflict where he gets challenged by a ton of Japanese martial arts masters. Tons of variety, tons of incredible fighting, tons of everything. The biggest complaint is that the second half basically drops the wife character in favor of more fighting so it doesn't quite work on both levels, but it's still really good.

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Late August, Early September (Olivier Assayas, 1998)

Can't lie. This shit is like catnip to me. Assayas' darting camera finely attuned to the everyday details that make up the life of bourgeois french existence, somehow forever in an in-between state, life to death, old to new, exciting to boring, Leydonen in a threesome (!?), the finer things in life. The ending is basically all that I look for in movies. Life goes on.
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Post by Izzy Black » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:09 am

First-rate Assayas. The Mia Hansen Love storyline takes on new levels of pervyness in retrospect though.
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I really liked that Assayas also.
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Post by Izzy Black » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:31 am

Is Assayas new flick with Kristen Stewart and Binoche his first English-language film? I think it is.
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Post by Trip » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:39 am

Isn't Boarding Gate or demonlover or Clean in English, largely?
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Post by Trip » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:41 am

Irma Vep to the same degree. I forget that degree, though.
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Post by Izzy Black » Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:02 am

Oh shit yeah. I don't know what I was thinking. Clean is English. Irma Vep a bunch of languages, French/English mix. I guess Boarding Gate too but I don't remember anything about the movie.

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:D brain fart
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Post by Epistemophobia » Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:10 am

Izzy Black wrote:I guess Boarding Gate too but I don't remember anything about the movie.
Nothing?
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Post by roujin » Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:41 am

Boarding Gate also has a mixture of languages (aka Kim Gordon speaking chinese).
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Post by Izzy Black » Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:56 am

Epistemophobia wrote: Nothing?
A little bit. For some reason that movie is just like a blur to me. I just remember Asia Argento walking around with a gun trying to outsmart people chasing her. Or something. I need to rewatch it.
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Post by roujin » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:17 am

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At Berkeley (Frederick Wiseman, 2013)

Over its four hours, Wiseman develops a complex dialectic between the radical protesting tradition of Berkeley, and the administrative diligence needed to keep the place running. We sit in on lectures stressing the student's need to dissent, to develop their critical faculties in order to question the knowledge given to them and also to develop a system of self-assessment in order to see if they've succeeded. All these actually manifest at some point throughout the film (mostly during the film's centerpiece protest segment), but the efforts of the students are then undercut (or questioned) when Wiseman cuts back to the the administration side. It's here where the true effectiveness of their protest is tested and they come up lacking. This could seem like Wiseman is taking the side of administration, but what I think Wiseman respects is the tradition of Berkeley and he genuinely respects the efforts of the students, but he fundamentally disagrees with the methods that they take. There's one point during a meeting where someone decries "cheerleading" as basically being useless, and praised the rational, logical gathering and presenting of evidence toward making your arguments, which is basically the approach Wiseman favors. When Wiseman cuts to the students, all we see them do is use a bunch of slogans, say a bunch of non-specific things, get basic facts wrong and get nothing accomplished. Depending on where you think Wiseman falls on the side of the argument, a shot of the emptied and darkened school library is either a hilarious punchline to a completely uncommitted and ineffectual protest or a subtle mourning of the student's inability to change the environment around them. I had both reactions.
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Re: a young person's guide to cinema

Post by charulata » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:24 am

Ugh, won't really read coz still hoping this gets a release here. Really want to watch it though.
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