Corrie Class Trip #6: Weddings and Babies (1958, Engel)

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Corrie Class Trip #6: Weddings and Babies (1958, Engel)

Post by snapper » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:19 pm

Join me for my second hosting gig of the Corrie Class Trip, with...
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Part of the late-50s wave of American indies that included works by emerging directors John Cassavetes, John Newland and Joseph Strick, Engel's film won the Pasinetti Award at the 1958 Venice Film Festival and tells the story of a New York City couple who have differing ideas on where to take their relationship and whose own drama is intruded upon by those of the boyfriend's septuagenarian mother.

Watch this at some point before the 30th of March when we will all get together and discuss. I want this to be the biggest Class Trip yet, so get the word out and buzz in here if you're interested in signing up.

Available here. I will try to get it on Dropbox sometime this week if I can figure out how to use it.

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Post by charulata » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:23 pm

I've seen this. So I'll participate.
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Post by Notes from Underground » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:27 pm

I might participate.
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Post by snapper » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:31 pm

charulata wrote:I've seen this. So I'll participate.
This does disqualify you from contention for the next host unfortunately! But weigh in anyway :) Hope I'm making a good choice?
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:06 pm

Yeah.
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Post by charulata » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:15 pm

snapper wrote:
This does disqualify you from contention for the next host unfortunately! But weigh in anyway :) Hope I'm making a good choice?
That's alright esp. given how badly I did last time :D And yeah, good choice.
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:11 pm

I'm in, even if that's the worst title ever
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Post by Derninan » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:21 pm

I can't stop laughing at that title. Bandy knows what's up!
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Post by snapper » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:43 pm

Bandy Greensacks wrote:I'm in, even if that's the worst title ever
Hey, he also made a film called Lollipops and Lovers.
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Post by Das » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:39 am

Derninan wrote:I can't stop laughing at that title.

Might watch the film.
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Post by snapper » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:43 am

Everyone should watch it by next weekend. Also, where's Shield? I think she's the only one whose been in for the majority of Class Trips who hasn't hosted one yet. Unless we get tons of new blood this time maybe we should give it to her as courtesy if she watches this one.
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Post by Trip » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:30 am

shield died

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Post by B-Side » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:24 am

might participate in this one
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Post by snapper » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:34 am

B-Side wrote:might participate in this one
I THOUGHT IT DIDN'T INTEREST YOU

how about now:
Like his two previous films, "The Little Fugitive" and "Lovers and Lollipops," this one is done in a highly distinctive and often impressive off-the-cuff photographic style. It is so seemingly casual and impromptu, so evidently uncontrived, both in story development and in the manner in which the shots are made and arranged, that it might be seriously labeled the "method" way of making a film.

This accounts for some suddenly exquisite and isolatedly eloquent little bits in Mr. Engel's picture, for which we understand he conceived the story and served as producer, director and camera man.
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Post by Notes from Underground » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:46 am

snapper wrote:
Hey, he also made a film called Lollipops and Lovers.
At least that one is alliterative.
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Post by snapper » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:59 am

apparently the lead actor is a wedding and baby photographer so
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Post by B-Side » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:46 pm

I mentioned featuring something that interested me before I saw the new choice. This one does interest me, so I'll watch it.
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:56 am

Engel should have written back in butchered French
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Post by snapper » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:52 pm

Don't forget to watch before Saturday!
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:31 am

Someone put it on YouTube or Dropbox so I don't have to spend more KG ratio
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Post by Notes from Underground » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:45 am

Bandy Greensacks wrote:Someone put it on YouTube or Dropbox so I don't have to spend more KG ratio
I echo this sentiment.
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Post by snapper » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:09 am

I'm putting it on Dropbox, says it'll take 6 hours but who knows
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** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
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Post by snapper » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:05 pm

I left it running overnight and it still says "19 hours left" so you might want to KG it unless someone else can dropbox it for me?

It's Saturday here but I guess II'll wait until tomorrow to post
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The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
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Post by snapper » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:29 am

Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
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Post by Notes from Underground » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:51 am

"I thought, well, heaven, all that marble and giltwork, sounds a bit middle class. I would prefer something that was, I don't know, carpeted and had skirting boards, things like that." — Alan Moore

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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:25 am

Should have been called "Lots of Luck"

I wasn't all that impressed, overall. It worked best when Engel actually directed (what were essentially montage segments) and the actors weren't improvising dramatic dialogue, although the silly birthday party stuff seemed a lot more natural, like that was more scripted and/or reliant on the actors' strengths.
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Post by snapper » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:35 am

I enjoyed it but I feel like it was crying out for an extra half-hour. Just a bit more time to let the drama develop and the characters to reveal some layers because as it is I think it speaks as if it had more to say than it does. The women are captivating presences, either when they're acting in Lindfors' case or just being themselves in Barile's. I wish he'd wrung some heftier emotional returns out of Barile's journey to her gravesite.

It looks gorgeous and you can really feel Engel's particular essence du NY, especially in the deep focus scenes at the festival where you can see the Manhattan skyline in the distance. And it is put together in a refreshingly loose style which unfortunately does short circuit a bit when it's made to link together mundane exchange after mundane exchange. I think its biggest crime is that it hasn't given me more to say about it.
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The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:39 am

There are definitely moments where it impresses with its imagery, yeah. I don't feel like going through the file to take caps right now, but I'm reminded of several moments where light streams in from the top of the frame and backlights characters.
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Post by snapper » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:04 am

So who else did this
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The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
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Haha
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Post by B-Side » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:08 am

Sorry, I was gonna watch this, but the past few days have been rough and I haven't really been in the mood for a movie.
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:12 am

B-Side wrote:Sorry, I was gonna watch this, but the past few days have been rough and I haven't really been in the mood for a movie.
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Post by snapper » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:24 am

It's like 78 minutes long.

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** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
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Post by snapper » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:35 pm

I guess Bandy gets this by default? Or should I wrap the Trip series for lack of interest?
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* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:53 pm

I'll do it if we know no one else is going to contribute to this one.

People should say something if they're not interested in continuing this, though. It might be pointless if only 2-3 see each film.
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Post by snapper » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:55 pm

I'm sure charu would have taken part had she not already seen the film, Das had seen last round's film, The Butcher's at boot camp and Shieldmaiden would probably be in but she's been AWOL lately. We might have been unlucky just for the past few rounds, I'm keen to keep this up.
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** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Post by Das » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:03 pm

Let's give it a vacation and come back to it in a month or so.

I'll be watching the film today probably.
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:04 pm

We should continue it, then. Maybe we can get others to join in eventually.

(Or not, since I just saw Das' post)
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Post by Notes from Underground » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:00 am

I should be watching this today.
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Post by Notes from Underground » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:12 am

I thought it was okay. The film was mostly at its best when nobody was opening their mouths; chunks of the 'emotional' dialogue were distractingly shoddy. "I feel like I'm crawling..." "What happened to us?" "Don't you love me?" and all that shit about midway through was the particular low point. But then they followed it up with the wandering old-lady montage - social security, praying in the church etc. - which was really good stuff. (Most of the old-lady and festival stuff was good.) Favourite stray observation: "I wonder what Freud would say about all this?" closely followed by this shot:

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That was nice. There was a lot of intentionally Freudian stuff in there (inevitable with mother/marriage), but I don't really have much else to say on it.
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Post by snapper » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:28 am

Maybe we can disregard Das and just give the next one to Notes

you're familiar with the rules?
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** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Post by Notes from Underground » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:33 am

snapper wrote:Maybe we can disregard Das and just give the next one to Notes

you're familiar with the rules?
I'm happy to wait for Das. And not really.
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #6: Weddings and Babies (1958, Engel)

Post by snapper » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:49 am

You pick an interesting-looking film that you haven't seen and that you doubt many if any other Corrie posters have seen, post about it on a Saturday and then we all watch it and discuss it the next Saturday.
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Re: Corrie Class Trip #6: Weddings and Babies (1958, Engel)

Post by Notes from Underground » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:03 am

Okay, sounds good.
"I thought, well, heaven, all that marble and giltwork, sounds a bit middle class. I would prefer something that was, I don't know, carpeted and had skirting boards, things like that." — Alan Moore

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Re: Corrie Class Trip #6: Weddings and Babies (1958, Engel)

Post by Circus Freak » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:19 am

I watched it and I can't think of much to say about it. My primary reaction was to find the characters extremely irritating, but I decided that this was intentional since it was amusing enough watching them prattle on about nothing. Until about 50 minutes into the film, that is, when I lost interest.

The inclusion of the mother was an intriguing idea, but it felt as if the film was relying on the mere presence of this element to induce gravitas and forgot to really do anything with it. This is me trying to justify how disengaged I felt by the film's end when I could have just quoted snapper's line concerning "heftier emotional returns" and responded with an "I agree".
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #6: Weddings and Babies (1958, Engel)

Post by Bandy Greensacks » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:37 pm

The focus on improvisation held it back quite a bit, really.
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