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Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:11 am

Malina
(Werner Schroeter, 1991)

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Malina is...based on the novel by the feminist Austrian author Ingeborg Bachmann and adapted for the screen by Elfriede Jelenik. Starring the well-known French actor Isabelle Huppert, the film centres upon a writer who finds herself unable to adequately express herself. Schroeter uses powerful imagery of mirrors and fire to convey the idea of an identity in disarray and crisis and creates a palpable sense of suffocation through the repetition of scenes involving the protagonist having to remind herself to breathe. (More at Senses of Cinema.)

It's time to take this class to Germany, to watch a film I've wanted to see for a long time. This may not be the most obscure film we’ve watched in this series, but at least it’s one I haven’t heard anybody around here talk about, and Huppert alone should make it worth checking out. As usual, we have one week to watch it, then meet back here for discussion on April 27th.

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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by rad » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:12 am

maybe ill watch for huppert...
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Post by snapper » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:12 am

exciting!
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:33 am

:)

Grabbed this a while back!
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Post by Notes from Underground » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:30 am

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Post by B-Side » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:39 am

huppert <3
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Post by wigwam » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:54 am

oh shit! someone else rec'd this to me, I'M IN!
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Post by B-Side » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:57 am

Isabelle Huppert is probably the only celebrity crush I've ever had. Most people have a certain celebrity they fawn over, but I never did. There are plenty I find attractive, but not enough to wanna showcase them in my avatars or post an endless stream of photoshoot pictures of them. Huppert is very alluring to me in a way that few others are. That probably makes me sound like a serial killer.

tl;dr huppert is awesome
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:49 am

I was planning to watch something from Schroeter anyway, so this is convenient as fuck. As fuck!
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Post by rad » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:49 am

fuck
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:16 pm

Oh, wow. If we really get nine people to watch this, I'll be so happy!
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Post by Trip » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:21 am

it's huppert's doing
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:41 am

Sure, but, it was pretty clever of me to pick a film with her in it. :)
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Post by wigwam » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:51 am

i didnt know she was in it, it was rec'd to me plus i like Shieldmaiden and want to suck up to her so she'll like me and I'll feel cool
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:28 am

B-Side wrote:Huppert is very alluring to me in a way that few others are. That probably makes me sound like a serial killer.
Haha. It makes you sound perfectly sensible to me. She's amazing.

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Post by B-Side » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:24 am

Shieldmaiden wrote:Haha. It makes you sound perfectly sensible to me. She's amazing.
I'm crushing on a woman twice my age. :D
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Post by Trip » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:07 am

Shieldmaiden wrote:Sure, but, it was pretty clever of me to pick a film with her in it. :)
no, fuck off
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by Pinhead » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:25 am

I was planning to do one of these but I've seen it already, I'd recommend a double bill with Deux for triple Huppert
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:50 pm

Pinhead wrote:I was planning to do one of these but I've seen it already...
Aw. I'd have had a hard time finding something obscure enough for you, I'm afraid.
B-Side wrote:I'm crushing on a woman twice my age. :D
As I said, perfectly sensible. :)
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Shieldmaiden wrote:As I said, perfectly sensible. :)
But you're not twice my age. ;)
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Post by B-Side » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:30 am

I guess I'll be the first one to chime in on this. I'd wait, but I'll probably lose all the details I currently have in my head.

Anywho, this one's a doozy. A fragmented amalgamation of Fassbinder, De Palma, Argento and Resnais. Or at least those names kept springing to mind when I was watching it. Though the film only briefly delves explicitly into Germany's sordid history, make no mistake; the reunification of Germany is easily read into the bipolar behavior of the protagonist. Her specific mental illness (assuming there is a literal one and not just a metaphorical one) is never conveyed, so it's left largely up to the viewer to qualify the aforementioned duality. The film begins abruptly with the tossing of a child off the roof of a large building, setting up a kind of campy tone, which slowly gives way to a more tense, stifling atmosphere and editing pattern. The beginning sets up the subsequent pattern of manic editing given way by the prescient reminiscence of the premise. If there's a base platform from which the tangential and slightly surreal recollections are tethered, I'm unaware of it. The entire film seems to exist in a state of ad hoc memorial flux. To piece it all together into a perfectly solid framework feels not only impossible, but beside the point. Huppert, whose character doesn't even have a real name in the film (she's referred to as "Die Frau" in the credits), seems to be attempting to thrust herself into a role that fits, juggling lovers and constantly reassuring herself that she actually exists by looking into a makeup mirror and applying lipstick. There are no easy answers, so any attempt by me to try and really suss out the intricacies is going to fail spectacularly. Maybe someone else will have better gauged the material and can talk turkey, but I will say that it's a good film, even if I'd have trouble telling you how or what ideas it generates or speaks to outside of what I spoke of regarding gender roles and the reunification of Germany.
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Ha, those didn't come out even remotely close to chronological order.
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Post by B-Side » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:37 am

i submitted the original captures of the two bird's eye shots above

720p rip, which i'd advise people get if they haven't already
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Post by snapper » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:43 am

BRY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WAIT UNTIL SATURDAY
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Post by B-Side » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:44 am

my post may have urged more people to participate, so, like, yeah

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I think the watch date is a stoops rule come at me bro
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i'll come on you bro
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btw the bed shot is never something i'd accept lol
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Trip wrote:btw the bed shot is never something i'd accept lol
I thought it was on the borderline, so I figured I'd let you decide.
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Trip wrote:I think the watch date is a stoops rule come at me bro
I don't want people's reactions to be tainted by others'!
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Post by B-Side » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:08 am

They should, like, not read my writing until afterward, then? I didn't mean to screw with procedure here, I just wanted to get my thoughts out before I forgot everything.
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:10 am

You'll only think when we tell you to think!

Seriously, does it really matter?
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Post by B-Side » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:13 am

JediMoonShyne wrote:You'll only think when we tell you to think!

Seriously, does it really matter?
I didn't think so, but like I said, I don't wanna fuck with the tradition if everyone prefers it that way. This is my first time participating in one of these.
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:16 am

Since you finished early, now you have to also watch Der Tod der Maria Malibran and tell us how that is
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Bry's post made me aware of the HD rip, which I am now getting, so.
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Post by B-Side » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:23 am

that no u was addressed to fanny shitsnacks

just to clarify cuz it's important
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Post by Bandy Greensacks » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:24 am

B-Side wrote:no u
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:29 am

Trip wrote:Bry's post made me aware of the HD rip, which I am now getting, so.
I downloaded it ages ago, now can't find it.

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Post by snapper » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:47 am

Bandy Greensacks wrote:Since you finished early, now you have to also watch Der Tod der Maria Malibran and tell us how that is
I have friends who say it's magnificent.
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Post by Trip » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:48 am

It's on Rosenbaum's list I believe. But Epi doesn't like it.
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epi sucks

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Post by Shieldmaiden » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:38 pm

B-Side wrote:I didn't think so, but like I said, I don't wanna fuck with the tradition if everyone prefers it that way. This is my first time participating in one of these.
I don't mind, because I just take care not to read anything till I've watched it. Plus, anything that gets you to participate is good. <3

I have Der Tod der Maria Malibran, too. It looks a lot more 'difficult.'
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Do you know if he likes Malina? Makes me sad not asking him, himself... Bear, I miss you!!
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Post by B-Side » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:41 pm

I expect to be able to choose the next film because, like, I'm me, and thus more important than others who have yet to pick.
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Post by charulata » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:16 pm

Trip wrote:I think the watch date is a stoops rule
brybry's post just makes me more eager to watch it really.
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Post by snapper » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:15 pm

If Jedi takes part he should probably get the next one because his upped hopes were so rudely dashed last time
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by B-Side » Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:01 am

snapper wrote:If Jedi takes part he should probably get the next one because his upped hopes were so rudely dashed last time
In the Catholic tradition, he shall cede his privilege to a less fortunate individual i.e. me, or else he'd just be a hypocrite and the Pope would order his arrest and death by firing squad.
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by Das » Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:16 am

I like the one day for reactions, less spread out for reactions, the more interest in discussion, at least in theory.
Trip wrote:Bry's post made me aware of the HD rip, which I am now getting, so.
That said, at least there's this, grabbing as well - B-side and Jedi's up speeds best not be shit.
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