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Post by Trip » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:32 am

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Blame Jedi for the dismal title. A thread for anyone to dump reactions to or ask for
recommendations for horror films throughout the month, as many of us are wont to do.

(THE PATRICK WILSON INDICATES HOTNESS)
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Re: Horrierino

Post by Derninan » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:35 am

My heart. You've stolen it.

I watched Isle of the Dead tonight. Surprised how much the final ten minutes scared me. Val Lewton was a badass.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:37 am

What's the best horror film I haven't seen?
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Post by Trip » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:38 am

Epistemophobia wrote:What's the best horror film I haven't seen?
Body Melt?
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Post by snapper » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:45 am

Let's Scare Jessica to Death
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Post by snapper » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:45 am

The Secret Adventures of Tom Thumb
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:57 am

I always wondered what the red was supposed to indicate.

I always knew what the Patrick Wilson was supposed to indicate.
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I love Patrick Wilson.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:18 am

Not a huge fan of the genre, but Trouble Every Day is top tier.

To the extent horror movies are to be scary and/or funny, they don't move me. To the extent that they're supposed to be disturbing and probe the darkest corners of human nature, I'm all in. Any recommendations down this lane is much appreciated.
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Re: Horrierino

Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:20 am

Also Twentynine Palms is a favorite.
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Re: Horrierino

Post by Bandy Greensacks » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:59 am

I saw and liked Waxwork II, The Bay and The Prowler recently. Maybe they'd appeal to others. And if anyone hasn't seen Mute Witness, get on that shit.

I think I'll just rewatch horror favorites this month, unless someone can recommend something new
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Izzy Black wrote:Not a huge fan of the genre, but Trouble Every Day is top tier.
You're goddamn right.
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Post by Derninan » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:30 am

My favorite Denis, and one of the best horrors ever made.
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Post by snapper » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:34 am

Outside of Beau travail which is immense I think I just don't get the Denis thing
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Post by Das » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:41 am

'Serious' cinephiles rejecting the horror genre is almost like a cliche now, really.

I'll watch some old favorites and do a bit of hunting online for some lost gems this year. If I see anything good I'll bring it up. The visceral intensity and wonderful energy of the genre's best filmmaking is something more directors should aspire to.
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Post by dreiser » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:58 am

I recommend The Silent Scream (1979) every year. I think Blake and Rouge are the only other posters to partake. Barbara Steele fans will want to give it a go.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:01 am

Das wrote:'Serious' cinephiles rejecting the horror genre is almost like a cliche now, really.
I'm assuming this is directed at me? I don't know. Most cinephilies I know, especially the ones I respect and admire, are very fond of a vast number of horror films. I've got nothing a priori against them. I just don't find horror movies scary. If they are supposed to be scary (and I'm not saying all of them are - the ones I like, for instance, aren't necessarily), then I can't get into it.

I am obviously most impressed by horror films that command a strong visual aesthetic. In addition, I like those that have meaty subject-matter. This isn't some blind prejudice against horror movies, though. I hold every genre of cinema to this same standard of quality.

Anyways, maybe you weren't directing this at me, but I didn't see anyone in here dismissing the genre really besides me, nor am I aware that it's a terribly common thing among cinephilies.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:01 am

snapper wrote:Outside of Beau travail which is immense I think I just don't get the Denis thing
Which have you seen?
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:01 am

Derninan wrote:My favorite Denis, and one of the best horrors ever made.
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Post by B-Side » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:05 am

Izzy Black wrote:I'm assuming this is directed at me? I don't know. Most cinephilies I know, especially the ones I respect and admire, are very fond of a vast number of horror films. I've got nothing a priori against them. I just don't find horror movies scary. If they are supposed to be scary (and I'm not saying all of them are - the ones I like, for instance, aren't necessarily), then I can't get into it.

I am obviously most impressed by horror films that command a strong visual aesthetic. In addition, I like those that have meaty subject-matter. This isn't some blind prejudice against horror movies, though. I hold every genre of cinema to this same standard of quality.

Anyways, maybe you weren't directing this at me, but I didn't see anyone in here dismissing the genre really besides me, nor am I aware that it's a terribly common thing among cinephilies.
Same for me. I have nothing against horror films in principle, they just don't tend to do much for me beyond a decent viewing experience. I certainly don't find them scary, but that's OK. If they unsettle me a bit, or conjure a great atmosphere, then I'm on board. Argento works for me mostly because of his stylistic flair. His movies aren't scary at all, but they're often beautiful.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:12 am

The greatness of Denis' film (and Dumont's and Merhige), is that they create a totally absorbing, almost mesmerizing atmosphere. With this, they offer truly unsettling and disturbing images that pose difficult questions or problems about human nature. That's true horror for me - to be pulled into a twisted underworld to face the dark horrors of human existence. Most mainstream horror movies aren't in this mold. They build on decades old traditions (the 70s) of satire, kitsch, formula, and manipulative vies for "scares" that are rarely, if ever, successful for me. I can't get behind this brand of horror, but I'm not saying that's what most are about. New French Extreme cinema did great things for the horror genre and produced some of my favorite films. If there are more films of this variety out there, then great, I just don't know about them. That's why I like the idea of this thread. I could use some recommendations!
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Izzy Black wrote:New French Extreme cinema did great things for the horror genre and produced some of my favorite films.
Really? I'm hesitant to watch them because they look so nasty. I'm referring to the trashier ones that came after the Denis and Dumont.
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Post by B-Side » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:15 am

Izzy Black wrote:The greatness of Denis' film (and Dumont's and Merhige), is that they create a totally absorbing, almost mesmerizing atmosphere. With this, they offer truly unsettling and disturbing images that pose difficult questions or problems about human nature. That's true horror for me - to be pulled into a twisted underworld to face the dark horrors of human existence. Most mainstream horror movies aren't in this mold. They build on decades old traditions (the 70s) of satire, kitsch, formula, and manipulative vies for "scares" that are rarely, if ever, successful for me. I can't get behind this brand of horror, but I'm not saying that's what most are about.
I agree about the Dumont, and partially about the Merhige. Haven't seen the Denis. But yeah, I'm with you. More horror like this plz.
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Post by snapper » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:15 am

Izzy Black wrote: Which have you seen?
Trouble Every Day and Vendredi soir it seems, I thought I'd seen more.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:20 am

Trip wrote: Really? I'm hesitant to watch them because they look so nasty. I'm referring to the trashier ones that came after the Denis and Dumont.
I am referring to a pretty brief period between around 1998-2005 that includes the Denis, Dumont, Noe, and Grandrieux. Some critics like to be more permissive with the label, whereas I consider it a terminal movement that has already ended. It's really impressive if we expand it to include demonlover, which I'm inclined to do. Given that roster, that's a really impressive output. I'd only hope horror on a global scale would be influenced by these films. They're truly challenging examples of the genre.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:20 am

B-Side wrote: I agree about the Dumont, and partially about the Merhige. Haven't seen the Denis. But yeah, I'm with you. More horror like this plz.
What's your thoughts on the Merhige?
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Post by Derninan » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:20 am

Thoughts on Calvaire, Izzy (or anyone else who's seen it)? That's one of my favorites from that era.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:24 am

snapper wrote:
Trouble Every Day and Vendredi soir it seems, I thought I'd seen more.
Well, that explains it. You need to see more Denis. :D

What did you think of Friday Night?

For me personally, she's the best in the world right now and one of the greatest of all time. I'd recommend Beau Travail, The Intruder, and 35 Shots of Rum. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.
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Post by Trip » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:29 am

Izzy Black wrote: I am referring to a pretty brief period between around 1998-2005 that includes the Denis, Dumont, Noe, and Grandrieux. Some critics like to be more permissive with the label, whereas I consider it a terminal movement that has already ended. It's really impressive if we expand it to include demonlover, which I'm inclined to do. Given that roster, that's a really impressive output. I'd only hope horror on a global scale would be influenced by these films. They're truly challenging examples of the genre.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:29 am

Derninan wrote:Thoughts on Calvaire, Izzy (or anyone else who's seen it)? That's one of my favorites from that era.
Calvaire worked, if not quite as well as the others.
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Post by snapper » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:30 am

Beau travail is already a favourite of mine, it earns its stripes with that ending. Trouble Every Day I thought was decent although it seemed underdeveloped to me, to be honest I thought Vendredi soir was really tedious and annoying.
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Izzy Black wrote:What's your thoughts on the Merhige?
Brilliant conceptually, and very effective visually, but my interest waned frequently throughout. A rewatch is in order.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:33 am

snapper wrote:Beau travail is already a favourite of mine, it earns its stripes with that ending. Trouble Every Day I thought was decent although it seemed underdeveloped to me, to be honest I thought Vendredi soir was really tedious and annoying.
I see. I could easily see those two films in particular not working for someone.
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Post by Izzy Black » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:34 am

B-Side wrote:
Brilliant conceptually, and very effective visually, but my interest waned frequently throughout. A rewatch is in order.
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Post by Trip » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:24 pm

House of Wax (in 3D!)

Stodgy and bloodless (quite literally), like so much of horror around this time (most of them starring Vincent Price, who I love anyway). It's more coherent than Collet-Serra's remake, but I'll take the later director's sporadic formal acuity (see the sharp opening sequence) any fucking day. 3D effects are for the most part absent, with a gimmicky inclusion of a guy flinging a ping pong at the audience. Director De Toth had one functioning eye when he made this, a great bit of trivia. But a shit movie.

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Post by Rock » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:30 pm

I like De Toth's Dirty Dozen rip-off Play Dirty a lot, almost as much as the film it ripped off, but haven't seen anything else by him.

I realized I have over 40 films that I'd like to get to this month, but I expect at best to see maybe half of them.
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Post by Beau » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:31 pm

I actually had fun with that one. But it's cheesy, yeah.
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Post by Fist » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:44 pm

We've already started watching a whole bunch of these this month, going into the usual marathons in October. Not even sure I can recall them all thus far.

Halloween 3: Season of the Witch last night was a lot of fun.

Stage Fright was some Italian thing I think with a guy in an owl mask killing a theater troupe. Lot of fun.

Haunting in Connecticut is bullshit. Turned that shit off.

Turned off some Bava movie that wasn't doing it for me same.

Some other Giallo entirely focused on destroying people's eyeballs in gruesome ways was kind of fun.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3 snooooze

Tobe Hooper's Invaders From Mars really dumb kinda fun kinda not really

I dunno. There have been a bunch of others too, but I'll leave that to ribbon. Insidious 2 was also this month and masterpiece so
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Post by Trip » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:51 pm

I too turned off The Haunting in Connecticut. Though its director's earlier claymation short, Ward 13, is fun. Hopefully his Mercy bears that same comprehension of action.
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Fist wrote:Some other Giallo entirely focused on destroying people's eyeballs in gruesome ways was kind of fun.
Sounds like a Fulci.
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I want to know what Izzy would make of Amer.
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Post by Fist » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:53 pm

Rock wrote:
Sounds like a Fulci.
Ahh, yeah it was.
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Shieldmaiden wrote:Eyes Without a Face (Georges Franju, 1960)
Re-Animator (Stuart Gordon, 1985)
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Post by roujin » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:01 pm

just gonna rewatch halloween II over and over
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roujin wrote:just gonna rewatch halloween II over and over
The Zombie? I like that one.
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Post by Beau » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:26 pm

I watched Rec the other day. But it wasn't October yet.

I rate it "I guess."
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Post by roujin » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:28 pm

Rock wrote:
The Zombie? I like that one.
Yeah, the Zombie.
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