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Corrie Class Trip 2.0: #10 Aksuat

Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:48 am

Aksuat
Serik Aprimov
Kazakhstan, 1999

Set in the village where Aprimov was raised, the story involves two brothers –
Kanat, who left for the city long ago, and Aman, who stayed behind. When
Kanat brings his pregnant wife home for a visit, the stage is set for bleak farce.
Just after the baby is born, Kanat is jailed for fighting, forcing Aman to care
for mother and child despite the disapproval of the village.
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Re: Corrie Class Trip 2.0: #10 Aksuat

Post by snapper » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:10 am

so in
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:02 am

snapper wrote:so in
It may be just you and me this time. <3

I was looking for a film with kids in danger to lure Jedi, but all I found was one that didn't have any danger and looked boring, so. Can't go wrong with Kazakhstan, though, right?
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Post by snapper » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:14 am

bring epi and bry thing
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Post by Epistemophobia » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:03 am

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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:53 pm

:)
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:10 pm

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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:49 pm

Yay! Anyone else? It's only 78 minutes long!
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Post by wigwam » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:33 pm

downloading this one
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:06 pm

:heart:

I'll watch this on Saturday.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:22 pm

I'm watching this now. Just a reminder. :)
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Post by snapper » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:31 pm

will watch this today!
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** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
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Post by snapper » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:31 pm

ie this evening
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:00 am

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I guess this is another one of those dark comedies that's too dark for me to see the comedy. Kazakhstan humor must be even harder edged than Finnish humor. But, this poor guy! Everyone turns on him, for almost no reason, even (or especially) his not-so-loyal sidekick. Maybe his mistake is not defending himself early on; when he does try to (literally) fight it, it's too late. It's telling that, when he finally gets fed up, he can't even yell and bluster properly, he's so unaccustomed to it. I wish I'd seen a better copy, but I think they did pretty great things with color and no-budget lighting. Aman's house always looked like the most inviting place in the village. Better subtitles would have helped, too. "I am like in the movie with you"? Pretty sure Last Tango in Paris is the furthest thing possible from their situation!

What was the deal with the rock on the string? Was it just to be mean, or was it an attempt to scare her away?
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Post by wigwam » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:43 am

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All the night scenes and some darker interiors looked pretty great. I tried really hard to appreciate it as a snowbound Koker trilogy and enjoy the humor and hybridization of modernity and feudal-level agri-shit civilization but ultimately it just wants to keep reaching for this symbolic plotical allegory I don't know or care about the specifics of, foregoing its cinematic potential for topical concerns that could just as easily be journalism, theater or a pamphlet.
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wigwam wrote:but ultimately it just wants to keep reaching for this symbolic plotical allegory I don't know or care about the specifics of, foregoing its cinematic potential for topical concerns that could just as easily be journalism, theater or a pamphlet.
Hmm. Are you assuming the character of the old man is merely allegory? I assumed that a structure around a 'village strongman' was realistic for that region, so I thought he fit. Or, maybe I'm missing your point completely...
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Post by wigwam » Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:26 am

yeah him and the other locals(/relatives?) in comparison to the first guy and his wife returning there and the possibilities for their family, I didn't feel any of it was ever only allegory/symbolism or contrived, it was always organic, but to a narrative that was mostly just undigested tradition-versus-progress cliche applicable to almost anyone anywhere, so any uniqueness to the culture/region is ultimately subsumed in lame attempts at universal Meaning and/or Moral

compare/contrast w/ something like Sembene's stuff where narrative is also used symbolically(and critically) but without blunting the more specific characteristics achievable when coming from a non-Western production method

Does that make sense?
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:32 pm

wigwam wrote:compare/contrast w/ something like Sembene's stuff where narrative is also used symbolically(and critically) but without blunting the more specific characteristics achievable when coming from a non-Western production method

Does that make sense?
Yes, of course. But Sembene seems like a really high standard to hold this guy to! I agree the story is weak, but its weakness is in making its protagonist completely perfect and everyone else completely horrible. I have no idea what kind of point that would be making about tradition vs. progress, or universal truths. Unless he's trying to say the innocent villagers have all been corrupted by filthy lucre, and that's just silly.
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Post by snapper » Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:40 pm

sorry fell asleep last night, but still interersted in seeing this. will soon
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** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
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Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
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Post by snapper » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:17 am

I'm watching this now. Wigwam would you like to take the next one? I want to do 12 just for symmetry with round 1 and I can take the finale. then I guess we're done with Class Trip for the meantime! I've gotta say this round has been more consistent than last year's
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* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
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Post by wigwam » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:02 pm

Yeah I'll do the next one
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:56 pm

It's not too late to watch this one and weigh in. Is "farce" an accurate description? Is "allegory"? Don't break my heart, Corrierino!
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Post by snapper » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:56 am

I thought this was... dull. but with flashes of interest? Will write more tonight and read the other reactions
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Post by Epistemophobia » Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:07 am

I didn’t pay much attention to the story. It seemed to mumble along. Some of the music was nice, although rare. Visually it ranged from barely coherent to beautiful, with the latter shots being the definite highlight for me. The tripod seemed to have one leg shorter than the others.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:08 am

too east bro
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:42 pm

Epistemophobia wrote:The tripod seemed to have one leg shorter than the others.
Haha, I didn't even notice this, but yeah. Those interiors, though! <3

I wish the city brother hadn't disappeared so quickly. The relationship dynamics were a lot more interesting to me than the police investigation or movie making subplots.
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