Trevor-Kiddo's Descent into Cinematic Madness

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Post by Wolfy » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:39 pm

Well when are we going to get reviews of Pink Narcissus?
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Post by Björn » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:39 pm

Hehe. Glad you guys like it. I am seeing a couple little details I wonked up on now that I missed in my excitement to get it to you. I'll send a replacement along soon.
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Post by Sinister » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:41 pm

Wolfy wrote:Well when are we going to get reviews of Pink Narcissus?
:up:
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Post by Trevor » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:43 pm

Wolfy wrote:Well when are we going to get reviews of Pink Narcissus?
I'll have one up later today that's not that. I watched something else as my first.
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Post by kiddo in space » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:52 pm

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Pink Narcissus

Certainly a weird film. Full of surreal images and homoerotic moments. Is this movie meant to be understood? I don't think so. Can it be interpreted and understood? Yes...well, maybe. The images by themselves are quite fascinating to watch, and very dream like, so it's easy jsut to stay with what the images give you, which is enought to enjoy this.

But seeing the images wasn't enough so I started wondering, what was the film about? I came with a intepretation of my own:
Our protagonist remembers his voyages through the world (and time?) seeking what he desires most: love. He remembers all of this in his home on a very sexual city, but that's not what he's looking for. What he want's is something more personal, a relationship beyond the physical aspect. He finds that in nature, nature provides him with that need of love, erotism, care.
A fascinating film, quite a pleasure to watch.
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Post by Sinister » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:10 pm

I saw that in a theater. Full of gay people.
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Post by Sammael » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:40 pm

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Post by Epistemophobia » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:43 pm

And Pink Narcissus I like.
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Post by Trevor » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:16 pm

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Ready. One, two.

Funeral Parade of Roses (1969)
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Sex scenes set to carnival music - being filmed with spectators watching.

Funeral Parade of Roses deals with the Japanese homosexual/dross-dressing subculture of the 1960s. Men, trying to find their way in the world, all while looking fabulous.

Dare I say that some of these men I thought were attractive?

The opening sequences - a close contact act of lovemaking, really caught my eye; the screen so white only the lines outlining their body and facial features being visible.

This is also a film about film making. They make underground experimental shorts. There also be that documentary-aspect; various people involved being questioned by interviewer - often about drugs.

Hypnotic surreal image montage. Repetetive. With a slush of roaring, ear-humming tone sounding almost like ocean waves.

Day in, day out, from morning risings and makeup applying, to the riveting late-night near-nude drug-addled, loud-music-playing parties.

There is definitely a comedic aspect to the film; the fast-forward fight scenes with amusement park music, the pop-up speech balloons, and a scene detailing three cross-dressing friends standing side-by-side in the urinals in a men's bathroom.

Kubrick saw this film shortly after its release, and borrowed some stuff from it, for A Clockwork Orange. The last-forward sequence set to a sped-up classical piece, that came from this. Also, the lineup of nude males backs showing against a white backdrop reminds me of the Korova Milkbar for some reason.

The humor is replaced, in the final act, with violence and horror. Now this is how you make a memorable ending.

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Post by Epistemophobia » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:16 pm

I love that film. :D
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Post by kiddo in space » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:19 pm

So many films to chose from.
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Post by dreiser » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:57 pm

The Night Porter (Cavani, 1974)
Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997)
"I hate the dark, the sharks liars. And the stems of cherry..."

Like Someone in Love (Kiarostami, 2012) 4/10
Killing Them Softly (Dominik, 2012) 2/10
The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm (Pal/Levin, 1962) 6/10
The Dark Past (Mate', 1948) 7/10
New Rose Hotel (Ferrara, 1998) 3/10
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Post by kiddo in space » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:33 pm

Lost Highway! Such an underrated film.
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Post by dreiser » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:08 am

kiddo in space wrote:Lost Highway! Such an underrated film.
We've met before, haven't we?
"I hate the dark, the sharks liars. And the stems of cherry..."

Like Someone in Love (Kiarostami, 2012) 4/10
Killing Them Softly (Dominik, 2012) 2/10
The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm (Pal/Levin, 1962) 6/10
The Dark Past (Mate', 1948) 7/10
New Rose Hotel (Ferrara, 1998) 3/10
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Post by Wolfy » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:11 am

The Night Porter isn't weird.

Now Chytilova's Daisies that is weird.
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Post by dreiser » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:30 am

Wolfy wrote:The Night Porter isn't weird.

Now Chytilova's Daisies that is weird.
You're weird.
"I hate the dark, the sharks liars. And the stems of cherry..."

Like Someone in Love (Kiarostami, 2012) 4/10
Killing Them Softly (Dominik, 2012) 2/10
The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm (Pal/Levin, 1962) 6/10
The Dark Past (Mate', 1948) 7/10
New Rose Hotel (Ferrara, 1998) 3/10
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Post by kiddo in space » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:54 am

W.R. Secrets of the Organism looks so bizarre. Wilhelm reich was crazy. Will watch it tonight or tomorrow.
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Post by Wolfy » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:06 am

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Post by Rdog » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:57 pm

Funeral Parade of Roses has been added to my need to see list! The screencap sold me.
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Post by kiddo in space » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:14 pm

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W.R. Mysteries of the Organism
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"A documentary about that crazy dude Wilhelm Reich? That'll be good. Maybe the weirdness of it comes from the material presented to us" I thought to myself. WRONG.

It's not only a odcumentary, but a narrative (?) film too. We see both the materail about W.R. (as well as other things about culture) and then the story of a couple of communist hippies. At ifrst it appeared that the info anout Reich was being applied in the second part of the film, suddenly it didn't seem like that so much. Then I saw it as a over the top satire of communism society and sexuallity. Even one character is named after Lenin so that part was kind of clear.

Still, I'm not sure what really was going on through this film, but I'm sre of one thing: Mindfuck. Wait, I lied, I'm sure about two things. 1. Mindfuck, 2. It featured hot women.

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See? She's not the only one. Back to the film. In the end, it was quite an experience. A vey crazy, fun and interesting experience. I still wonder about it.
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Post by Pathétique » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:58 am

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Post by Trevor » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:55 pm

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W. R. Mysteries of the Organism (1971)
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"Comrade lovers, for your health's sake, fuck freely!"

There is a lot going on in that title - I like it.

So quotable. The documentary portions come across the strongest. Is it self-aware? Is it genuine? I think it's genuine, which makes it all the better.

It's almost a comedy. Not a laugh-out-loud one, mind you. But a "oh, this is amusing"-and-give-a-smirk kind of funny.

There's some narrative film tossed in there as well, for good measure. None of it really fits together. There's an interesting part about youth revolutionaries that came across as political-era-Godard with a lot of sex added in. Nothing wrong with that.

The orderly self-pleasuring group session taking place in what looks like the main room of a community centre with nothing audible but people moaning in ecstasy - I don't quite know what ot think.

"Gentlemen, in our Democracy, everyone is entitled to a doughnut. Some get the doughnut, others get the hole in the doughnut."

In a word: Interesting.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:55 pm

Organism is a complex word.
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Post by Trevor » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:57 pm

Epistemophobia wrote:Organism is a complex word.
Almost as complex as orgasm.
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Post by dreiser » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:08 pm

Trevor-Trevor wrote:
Almost as complex as orgasm.
W.R. Mysteries of the Orgasm (1971)

That's what I saw when I read the title. :shifty:
"I hate the dark, the sharks liars. And the stems of cherry..."

Like Someone in Love (Kiarostami, 2012) 4/10
Killing Them Softly (Dominik, 2012) 2/10
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The Dark Past (Mate', 1948) 7/10
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Post by Rdog » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:09 pm

dreiser wrote:
W.R. Mysteries of the Orgasm (1971)

That's what I saw when I read the title. :shifty:
We must be on the same wave-length then.
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Post by dreiser » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:15 pm

Rdog wrote:
We must be on the same wave-length then.
Sex: it's always on the male mind.
"I hate the dark, the sharks liars. And the stems of cherry..."

Like Someone in Love (Kiarostami, 2012) 4/10
Killing Them Softly (Dominik, 2012) 2/10
The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm (Pal/Levin, 1962) 6/10
The Dark Past (Mate', 1948) 7/10
New Rose Hotel (Ferrara, 1998) 3/10
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dreiser wrote:
W.R. Mysteries of the Orgasm (1971)

That's what I saw when I read the title. :shifty:
After watching it, I think that title would be more appropriate. Was it intentional? Was the choosing of "Organism" a ploy, just to play with male minds?
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Post by Rdog » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:17 pm

dreiser wrote:
Sex: it's always on the male mind.
true.
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Post by dreiser » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:22 pm

Trevor-Trevor wrote:Was it intentional? Was the choosing of "Organism" a ploy, just to play with male minds?
I think you are onto something here.
"I hate the dark, the sharks liars. And the stems of cherry..."

Like Someone in Love (Kiarostami, 2012) 4/10
Killing Them Softly (Dominik, 2012) 2/10
The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm (Pal/Levin, 1962) 6/10
The Dark Past (Mate', 1948) 7/10
New Rose Hotel (Ferrara, 1998) 3/10
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Post by kiddo in space » Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:19 pm

The other day, one of my teachers gave us an article about Wertheimer...I'm going to read the hell out of it now.
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Post by Sammael » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:57 am

Hey watch Martyrs.

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Sammael wrote:Hey watch Martyrs.

Hey hey.
Alright, you got my attention. I'll try and watch it this weekend, just for you.
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Post by Sammael » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:07 am

Trevor-Trevor wrote:
Alright, you got my attention. I'll try and watch it this weekend, just for you.
Polarizing films FTW!

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Post by Trip » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:08 am

Ken Russell's The Devils in here? That.
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Post by Trevor » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:09 am

Ones I now have, waiting to be watched:

Visitor of a Museum (LEAVES)
Pink Narcissus (Wolfy)
The Devil (RDog)

Martyrs (Sammael) will be soon added to those.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:24 am

Visitor of a Museum is one of those films that is simply too good for any person to properly appreciate.

Enjoy your failure. :D
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Post by Trevor » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:25 am

Blevo wrote:The selection needs some Chin Ku Lu:

Holy Flame of the Martial World
Bastard Swordsman
Return of Bastard Swordsman
I love Shaw Brothers but have never heard of Chin Ku Lu or any of those. All seem very entertaining.
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Post by kiddo in space » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:55 am

Sammael wrote:Hey watch Martyrs.

Hey hey.
I've seen that film. Very, very fucked up. It messes with your mind...and not in a good way.
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Post by LEAVES » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:35 am

Epistemophobia wrote:Visitor of a Museum is one of those films that is simply too good for any person to properly appreciate.

Enjoy your failure. :D
A deluge of leaves can appreciate it, I can tell you that much. And the more the merrier.
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Post by Sammael » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:17 am

kiddo in space wrote:
I've seen that film. Very, very fucked up. It messes with your mind...and not in a good way.
Nice.

Yeah honestly, it isn't a great film, just a pretty good one. However, I'd be hard pressed to think of a single more affecting cinematic experience in all my days.
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Post by kiddo in space » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:32 pm

Trevor
Funeral Parade of Roses (Trip)
W.R. Mysteries of the Organism (Wolfy)

Kiddo
Pink Narcissus (Wolfy)
W.R. Mysteries of the Organism (Wolfy)
Apparently, we love Wolfy :D
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Post by Trevor » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:39 pm

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Apparently, we love Wolfy :D
Yup. Especially since I also have PinkN. to watch, soon. But after that, I'll try and get at least 1 rec. from each person, before going to 2.
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Post by Andrew Ryan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:00 pm

Little Otik
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Post by Trevor » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:01 pm

Andrew Ryan wrote:Little Otik
Videodrome
Ink
Videodrome - one of my favourite films, ever.

Little Otik - cute. I'm a fan of Svankmajer.

What year is the Ink you refer to?
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Post by Andrew Ryan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:03 pm

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Post by sevenarts » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:49 pm

Some good films here. W.R. is fantastic, and Makavajev's Sweet Movie is possibly even better and definitely even weirder - especially since it has (literally) shit-eating contributions from the Vienna Aktionists.

Also love Funeral Parade of Roses.

I don't know what you've seen, but here are some more recommendations for weird movies, perhaps in a different vein than the (great) stuff offered so far in this thread:

Nuits rouges - Georges Franju's nutty spy movie homage
Perceval le Gallois - utterly bizarre medieval knight adventure set on a rather obvious soundstage with interjections of sung narration
Noroit (une vengeance) - baffling pirate/revenge fantasy with unexplained mystical elements
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Post by kiddo in space » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:08 pm

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Tokyo Gore Police
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Let me get this out of my system: Holy crap! This was crazy! There you go. But serioulsy, this is some crazy shit. Never before have I seen a movie like this, pure madness within every frame. Gore, guts, flying limbs, violence, dark humor are some of the things this movie contains in high doses, and believe me, is amazing to see all of it, it's like Ichi the Killer on steroids.

While it's violent and bloody, it's also very creative, all the mutants are great and the special effects couldn't be better. In a time when everyone likes to use CGI, this movie stands up and uses make up effects for almost anything (just 2 or 3 exceptions in which they use CGI), it reminded me of The Thing, specilly when seeing the mutant and they half human half machine limbs.

Even with all the crazy things going on, the film takes the time to present a critique of Japanese culture. This also with a very over the top and humorous style.

I'm so glad I finally saw this movie. Just leave it to the japanese to provide this kind of things. Don't you love them?
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