You think that a 7 is a bad score? Look, I consider anything above a seven to be pretty good. If you look at the IMDb Top 250, the 250th film has a score of 8. So A Quiet Place has a rating that is 0.5 away from a score equal to something on the Top 250. I think that A Quiet Place is a good (but not great) movie, and I gave it a 7.Stu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:40 amOf course 3.7 is an above average score; technically, a 2.6 qualifies as "above average", but neither score is very good
And regarding the score percentage break-down on LB, the 44% of users who rated the film 3 & 1/2 stars or lower also helps prove my point, because when converting the 5 star Letterboxd scale to a more standard 0-10 numerical one, by automatically doubling the scores, that figure shows that a large percentage of those users either thought it was about a flat 7 or lower, which means they either though it was barely decent, or worse,
It seems like you're assuming that (1) people who score something a 3.5 or a 7 have an unimpressed or negative view of the film and that (2) those people have been impacted by nitpick/negative online culture. Isn't it possible that a lot of people out there are just like me, and thought it was a good-but-not-great film? I give a 7 or 8 to stuff that I really like and a 9 or 10 to stuff I love.
Consider the following reviews from people who gave it 3 or 3.5 stars:
This movie is just annoying at times. Buuuut it’s really good. I love the actress who plays the mom. (3 stars)
Still great but considerably less effective on a rewatch (3.5 stars, rewatch)
I saw this one in a theatre and I don’t think it would really translate to the small screen. The writing of the family interactions are underbaked but the overall conceit is so good that it makes up for it, as is the case with most sci-fi. (3 stars)
i genuinely fell off of my seat from sitting so close to the edge i love this movie (3 stars)
A really simple but clever concept that worked well. I had no idea what this was about going in and was pleasantly surprised by this. A real solid wee horror thriller with a bit of heart to it. (3.5 stars)
"Really good", "Still great", "overall conceit is so good," "I love this movie", "solid horror thriller". Do these sound like people who thought it was "barely decent or worse"? Doesn't it sound like a lot of these people really liked the movie?
Again, disagree. I mean, the Hoover Dam one has likes because it's short and funny. You're arguing, I think, that people go to review a film, see that others have trashed it, and then lower their own scores accordingly? But the most common score on IMDb is an 8, and the most common score on Letterboxd is a 4. So the average on both sites is just slightly lower than the most common score (7.5 vs 8, 3.7 vs 4). And when you look at the numbers, what pulls the average down slightly on both sites is not people giving it really low scores. It's a lot of people giving it "okay" scores like 6/7 or 3/3.5. I really don't see how the film is being impacted in any kind of unreasonable way.it is reasonable to extrapolate from the relative popularity of the nit-picky reviews (including the joke one that many people are still taking seriously, which got over a thousand more "likes' than either of the 4 & 1/2 star ones), that nit-pick culture has had a unreasonably negative impact on both that film and cinematic discourse in general
If you want to talk unreasonable impact, look at the score breakdown for Sex and the City. A Quiet Place has 1.2% people voting a 1 star. Sex and the City has 6.4%! Both have a median score of 8. Both have about 80% of their scores as a 7 or higher. And yet the Sex and the City average is a 7.1 compared to 7.5.
Do you really think that people are being dissuaded from seeing A Quiet Place? Because I feel like everyone has seen it. The downvote campaign for Kicks means that it currently has 4.6% scoring it a 1. At the time the article was written, the downvoting had taken its average score down to a 4.5--and THAT is a score that will dissuade people. I don't know anyone who would be put off by a 7.5 score on IMDb. Again, even with all of the negativity you're talking about, A Quiet Place only has 1.2% scoring a 1. Just for fun I went and looked at a pretty universally loved film, The Shawshank Redemption, and it has 1.5% voting it a 1. Again, the impact is not coming from overtly negative reviews and scores. It's coming from people who think a film is just good/okay."When that score pops up, how many people are potentially going to be dissuaded from seeing this movie on our opening weekend, and in release?" asks Kaplan. "It’s hard to extrapolate what damage it could do."
I'm absolutely fine with the part of your argument that nitpick culture has put a crimp in good film discussion. I don't totally agree, but I know what you're talking about.
But the statistician in me strongly resists your assertion that nitpick reviews are somehow driving down the scores of these films and having a measurable, significant impact on them.