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Post by Jinnistan » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:45 pm

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Has there been a horror series with better quality control than the Evil Dead franchise? It's gone through four distinct phases (five, if you count the decent video games), and each iteration is good on its own specific terms.
Other than the remake, which I thought was sorely lacking in both "creative gore" (quite derivative actually) and the energy of Raimi's signature that ran throughout AvED, I would agree with this.
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Other than the remake, which I thought was sorely lacking in both "creative gore" (quite derivative actually) and the energy of Raimi's signature that ran throughout AvED, I would agree with this.
Fair point on the remake. I thought it was better than the average horror remake, but that's not a high bar to clear, and you're right that the gore spectacle and style didn't evoke (or at least match in its own way) Raimi's ingenuity.
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Post by MadMan » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:22 am

I liked, but did not love, the Evil Dead remake. At this point I have reviews for most if not all horror films that get discussed more than once online, so hurray for that, I guess.
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Post by Apex Predator » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:38 am

The best way to describe the Evil Dead remake is well-intentioned, but struggles to execute what it's trying to accomplish.

It's probably a better than average remake/reboot of a horror franchise, but that and $5 will get you a cup of coffee in most places.
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Post by Rock » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:33 am

I liked the remake but found it too slick. The rough edges of the original are a large part of what gives it character. Alvarez gets closer to that sense of texture with Don't Breathe.
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Post by Stu » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:47 pm

Sweet; now, if only they'd get around to uploading the actual play...
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Post by Wooley » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:35 pm

Rock wrote:
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I liked the remake but found it too slick. The rough edges of the original are a large part of what gives it character. Alvarez gets closer to that sense of texture with Don't Breathe.
I just didn't think it was much fun.
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Post by Stu » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:49 am

Stu wrote:
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Sweet; now, if only they'd get around to uploading the actual play...
Well, speak of the devil...

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I'd rather just rewatch Lake Placid.

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I'm not the biggest fan of actor Andrew Prine. He tends to be stiff and humorless and generally has unearned airs like he sincerely can't quite understand why he's not in better movies. Which is also precisely why this is the perfect Andrew Prine film, factory-sealed to conform to every contour of this walking monkeycunt. Pretentious and cheap are the hallmarks of his talents. The film, itself, is actually quite funny, a kind of deadpan send-up of various flavors of hippie woo which also inexplicably decides to rip-off Midnight Cowboy in the second act. I'm not convinced that Prine was in on the joke, though, maybe because he's still as self-indulgently shrill as he was in Hannah, Queen of the Vampires or Nightmare Circus. Or maybe I just prefer to think that his angry wizard here, full of delusions of grandeur and spiteful camp, is some truly magus-level method chess. Anyway, Prine's awful, the movie is not terrible, and if you get bored you can always imagine the remake with John Krasinski and Jesse Plemons.
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Post by Melvin Butterworth » Sat May 04, 2019 3:54 am

So, is Hereditary actually worth a watch?
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Post by Stu » Sat May 04, 2019 4:00 am

Melvin Butterworth wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 3:54 am
So, is Hereditary actually worth a watch?
Not in the sense that I personally felt it was a good, worthwhile movie that I would recommend in general, but it is worth watching in the sense that it's an interesting misfire to witness, and worth studying for the unfulfilled potential it displays from someone who is a somewhat promising new director, and who hopefully delivers better material in the future.
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Melvin Butterworth wrote:
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So, is Hereditary actually worth a watch?
I think so.
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Post by MadMan » Sat May 04, 2019 8:46 am

Also anyone else viewing Joe Bob Briggs' current show? I have seen most of his picks yet I am enjoying his commentary. Shudder is a cool service, although I wonder how long that will last.
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Post by Torgo » Tue May 07, 2019 3:35 pm

I enjoyed Dead & Buried (1981) more than I expected considering its mediocre IMDB score and Tomatometer. It's a strong entry in the sub-genre of "idyllic town that's not quite so idyllic" that's not exclusive to horror and which includes movies like Black Death and Hot Fuzz. It builds a very satisfying mystery about just what is up with Potter's Cove and it does a good job and throwing in red herrings at the right times. It's also nice to see performers who were just starting out like Robert Englund, Glenn Morshower and the lovely Melody Anderson, but I wasn't crazy about James Farentino as the lead, especially when he, well...went crazy after finding out what is going on in his hometown. It was a pivotal moment where he's apparently supposed to react in the same way the audience does, but he just made me laugh. When it comes down to it, though, what were the lessons?
That what's dead should stay dead and that you should respect your elders and/or respect those who have jobs that seem thankless and/or unpleasant, i.e. the mortician played by Jack Albertson, I guess.
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Post by Slentert » Tue May 07, 2019 3:37 pm

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I enjoyed Dead & Buried (1981) more than I expected considering its mediocre IMDB score and Tomatometer. It's a strong entry in the sub-genre of "idyllic town that's not quite so idyllic" that's not exclusive to horror and which includes movies like Black Death and Hot Fuzz. It builds a very satisfying mystery about just what is up with Potter's Cove and it does a good job and throwing in red herrings at the right times. It's also nice to see performers who were just starting out like Robert Englund, Glenn Morshower and the lovely Melody Anderson, but I wasn't crazy about James Farentino as the lead, especially when he, well...went crazy after finding out what is going on in his hometown. It was a pivotal moment where he's apparently supposed to react in the same way the audience does, but he just made me laugh. When it comes down to it, though, what were the lessons?
That what's dead should stay dead and that you should respect your elders and/or respect those who have jobs that seem thankless and/or unpleasant, i.e. the mortician played by Jack Albertson, I guess.
Guillermo Del Toro loves that movie.
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Post by Torgo » Tue May 07, 2019 4:53 pm

Slentert wrote:
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Guillermo Del Toro loves that movie.
It seems like a movie'd he'd love.
Now that I think about it, Dr. Casares from The Devil's Backbone could have been inspired by the mortician.
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Post by crumbsroom » Tue May 07, 2019 5:47 pm

Dead and Buried is a minor classic. Never trust critical consensus on pulpy horror films like this. Critics don't get it. They suck.
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Post by Torgo » Tue May 07, 2019 7:05 pm

crumbsroom wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 5:47 pm
Dead and Buried is a minor classic. Never trust critical consensus on pulpy horror films like this. Critics don't get it. They suck.
Lesson learned.
I listened to a podcast, Junkfood Cinema, about this movie that mentions that
it's really about taking a jab at the Republican party for wanting the U.S. to resemble what it was like during the '50s. I can't believe I missed that.
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Post by Wooley » Wed May 08, 2019 2:45 pm

Torgo wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 3:35 pm
I enjoyed Dead & Buried (1981) more than I expected considering its mediocre IMDB score and Tomatometer. It's a strong entry in the sub-genre of "idyllic town that's not quite so idyllic" that's not exclusive to horror and which includes movies like Black Death and Hot Fuzz. It builds a very satisfying mystery about just what is up with Potter's Cove and it does a good job and throwing in red herrings at the right times. It's also nice to see performers who were just starting out like Robert Englund, Glenn Morshower and the lovely Melody Anderson, but I wasn't crazy about James Farentino as the lead, especially when he, well...went crazy after finding out what is going on in his hometown. It was a pivotal moment where he's apparently supposed to react in the same way the audience does, but he just made me laugh. When it comes down to it, though, what were the lessons?
That what's dead should stay dead and that you should respect your elders and/or respect those who have jobs that seem thankless and/or unpleasant, i.e. the mortician played by Jack Albertson, I guess.
One of my favorite not-famous horror movies.
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Post by MadMan » Wed May 08, 2019 6:00 pm

Yeah Dead & Buried is a good, solid horror flick. I can't remember if I saw it on Netflix or if I rented it from somewhere else. I lost my old viewing logs when Icine went down years back.
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Post by Torgo » Tue May 14, 2019 2:36 pm

I'm probably the last person on this forum who has seen Invasion of the Body Snatchers (the 1978 version), but I'll sing its praises anyway. It masterfully exploits the fear of waking up to the person you love the most behaving in a completely different manner as well as the fear of having your lifestyle taken away from you without ever coming across as convoluted and/or two movies in one. It's set in the most liberal city in the U.S. at a time when Carter's approval rating was on the decline, and while that setting is not far removed from the one in today's America, it expertly presents these fears in a way that's abstract enough to apply to any situation. You also have to give credit to the special effect department and the production designers for making the body snatchers seem ordinary at first and as gross and alien as you can possibly imagine as the movie progresses (I'm also glad to finally understand the zucchini throw pillow joke in the parody of this movie from MST3K episode The Giant Spider Invasion). All of this and the most frightening ending to a movie I can remember make it the best movie I've seen so far this year.
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Post by Wooley » Thu May 16, 2019 2:39 pm

Torgo wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 2:36 pm
I'm probably the last person on this forum who has seen Invasion of the Body Snatchers (the 1978 version), but I'll sing its praises anyway. It masterfully exploits the fear of waking up to the person you love the most behaving in a completely different manner as well as the fear of having your lifestyle taken away from you without ever coming across as convoluted and/or two movies in one. It's set in the most liberal city in the U.S. at a time when Carter's approval rating was on the decline, and while that setting is not far removed from the one in today's America, it expertly presents these fears in a way that's abstract enough to apply to any situation. You also have to give credit to the special effect department and the production designers for making the body snatchers seem ordinary at first and as gross and alien as you can possibly imagine as the movie progresses (I'm also glad to finally understand the zucchini throw pillow joke in the parody of this movie from MST3K episode The Giant Spider Invasion). All of this and the most frightening ending to a movie I can remember make it the best movie I've seen so far this year.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Thu May 16, 2019 3:28 pm

While I still prefer the '56 film by a bit, I love both films quite a lot.
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Post by DaMU » Thu May 16, 2019 4:46 pm

It's a push for me between the '56 and '78 versions, both of which are excellent (the other two are good-intentioned misfires to me). The '56 is probably my favorite through a combination of nostalgia and admiration for its film noir approach to the material, while the '78 has that fabulous naturalistic approach but gets a little long in the plantation chases at the end. Wish I could've been surprised/horrified by the '78 ending, but it became so culturally accessible and meme-able (sic) that, for me, it's sort of like those movie endings where the camera's slowly tracking toward the felled villain and you're waiting for his eyes to open.
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DaMU wrote:
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It's a push for me between the '56 and '78 versions, both of which are excellent (the other two are good-intentioned misfires to me). The '56 is probably my favorite through a combination of nostalgia and admiration for its film noir approach to the material, while the '78 has that fabulous naturalistic approach but gets a little long in the plantation chases at the end. Wish I could've been surprised/horrified by the '78 ending, but it became so culturally accessible and meme-able (sic) that, for me, it's sort of like those movie endings where the camera's slowly tracking toward the felled villain and you're waiting for his eyes to open.
I somehow managed to avoid the ending and references to it before watching, so I had
hope that Bennell survived. However, my shock eventually turned into admiring his sacrifice even though it ended up being a hollow one.
On another note, how strange is it to see Leonard Nimoy acting with emotions? Even though he was the skeptic, "logical" friend, I still felt that he was out of character even though he wasn't playing Spock.

Oh, and here's the pinnacle of the kind of ending you describe:

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None better. But along those lines:

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Post by Jinnistan » Thu May 16, 2019 11:32 pm

DaMU wrote:
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(the other two are good-intentioned misfires to me)
I'm much less forgiving of the 2007 version.

Haha. Looks like that one was scripted by the guy who did the Suspiria remake.

Relevant to this thread, I thought that said Suspiria remake was terrific for about 2 hours, but the ending was a bed-shart of ravioli-enema proportion.
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Post by DaMU » Fri May 17, 2019 3:19 pm

Got through the first 20 minutes of Castle Freak last night before sleep overtook, was kinda vibing with it. Doesn't have the same control of craft of the first two Gordon HPL's, but does have some of the same dramatic economy.
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DaMU wrote:
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Got through the first 20 minutes of Castle Freak last night before sleep overtook, was kinda vibing with it. Doesn't have the same control of craft of the first two Gordon HPL's, but does have some of the same dramatic economy.
I was very impressed by it, given that I had pretty low expectations.
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Post by DaMU » Mon May 20, 2019 3:33 pm

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I was very impressed by it, given that I had pretty low expectations.
Yeah, I'm coming out of it surprised by its quality. It's not Re-Animator good, but I think it measures up to other Gordon/Paolis like "Dreams in the Witch-House" and Dagon and might even be a touch better due to the commitment to Combs' character arc. In general, Combs and Crampton convince as a fraying couple.

What I didn't like...
was the severity of the violence inflicted on the prostitute, and how much of it we see. It feels like an effort to match the taboo-busting sexual violence of Re-Animator and, to a lesser extent, the BDSM excess of From Beyond, but all the lingering shots of her torn breast just felt depressing instead of shocking. Depressing that this is what a character suffered, depressing that the actress was used mostly to get to that extreme.
Still, thumb is up.
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Yeah, I'm coming out of it surprised by its quality. It's not Re-Animator good, but I think it measures up to other Gordon/Paolis like "Dreams in the Witch-House" and Dagon and might even be a touch better due to the commitment to Combs' character arc. In general, Combs and Crampton convince as a fraying couple.

What I didn't like...
was the severity of the violence inflicted on the prostitute, and how much of it we see. It feels like an effort to match the taboo-busting sexual violence of Re-Animator and, to a lesser extent, the BDSM excess of From Beyond, but all the lingering shots of her torn breast just felt depressing instead of shocking. Depressing that this is what a character suffered, depressing that the actress was used mostly to get to that extreme.
Still, thumb is up.
I mostly agree with you, it was ugly, but I also did feel it gave the movie the ugliness it was looking for.
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Post by DaMU » Mon May 20, 2019 6:42 pm

On that note:

1. Re-Animator
2. From Beyond
3. Castle Freak
4. "Dreams in the Witch House"
5. Dagon

Without disliking really any of 'em (Dagon is mediocre but worth it overall for its peaks).
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Post by Torgo » Mon May 20, 2019 6:44 pm

Another :up: for Castle Freak from me.
I recommend listening to the recent episode of the Flop House podcast about the movie. Joe Bob Briggs is a guest.
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