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Re: Horrorcram XV: Let's Scare Corrierino To Death

Post by Rock » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:03 am

daakmore wrote:
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Cage's crazy didn't feel organic to the madness of the film and was very much at odds with how everyone else was playing things.
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I am with you pretty much 100%, Cage's crazy didn't feel organic to the madness of the film and was very much at odds with how everyone else was playing things. I agree the body horror over sickness aspect was also a bit of a letdown.
I feel like even those of us who look forward to Cage's freak-outs would have to admit that the shift in tone is poorly handled.

One of my favorite lines from the Lovecraft story, just because it's so over-the-top, is when he mentions "blasphemously misshapen skunk-cabbage" or something to that effect. Like, how ugly does cabbage have to be to qualify as blasphemy? That always makes me chuckle, but the point is that the ground is diseased, the water is diseased, any person or animal living on the property is deteriorating, etc. Instead of that, Stanley gives us weird flowers that the family didn't plant, but are actually kind of pretty. So again, he went for "alien" rather than "sick". The closest we come to that are the oversized tomatoes that taste bad, I guess.
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Re: Horrorcram XV: Let's Scare Corrierino To Death

Post by Torgo » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:06 pm

Takoma1 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:35 am
Look at you, just breaking my heart like that. How dare you.

I'm still hoping to see it in the next few weeks.



It sounds like you liked it a bit more than I did. It is certainly different, and operates in an appealingly atmospheric/slightly surreal world. I remember being let down by the ending, but cannot remember specifically why. I did find the nakedly queer vibe appealing.

Also, the thing I maybe most remember about it was skimming the IMDb comment boards (I know, but occasionally there were some insightful posts there) and someone had a whole thread that was just like "THIS MOVIE HAD A PENIS IN IT! NOT ALLOWED! MEN SHOULD NOT BE NAKED IN MOVIES!".

I gave it a 6/10, but it's been several years since I watched it.
I like it slightly more than you do, including the ending. The
blood spray combined with the pyrotechnics was an amazing moment of catharsis.

I'd probably give it a 7/10. It's a good movie about unleashing your inner demon, but I've seen better and/or more memorable ones.
Also, those IMDB reactions are funny and sad, especially when it's a movie with much more scandalous moments like
when the dog and the police chief get decapitated.
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Post by Takoma1 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:56 pm

Torgo wrote:
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I'd probably give it a 7/10. It's a good movie about unleashing your inner demon, but I've seen better and/or more memorable ones.
Well, I read it as the result more of repressing aspects of yourself, with some strong implications that it was his own sexuality, and how destructive that can get. His habit of feeding the wolf (pacifying it just enough to keep it from literally rearing its head) played into that as well. Again, though, I'd need a rewatch to get much more specific.
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Post by DaMU » Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:33 pm

Watched Rawhead, withholding thoughts until we hear if the Cap'n gave it a go.
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Post by Captain Terror » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:56 am

DaMU wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:33 pm
Watched Rawhead, withholding thoughts until we hear if the Cap'n gave it a go.
Tonight's the night. Let 'er rip!
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Post by Captain Terror » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:06 am

Image

RAWHEAD REX

Screenplay is by Mr Barker himself so the story is mostly intact, and this is probably a better film than it has any right to be, but ultimately it can't overcome that big dopey-looking SOB of a monster. This is not the god-like giant described in the short story. Just because a character says he's 9 feet tall does not make it so. In a way, I think it might've been beneficial to just embrace the cruddy monster and go for a more humorous tone, but instead we're left with a movie that's sort of taking itself seriously occasionally interrupted by Mr Squatch up there.
Still, it was mostly fun and I enjoyed seeing certain scenes from the story that I didn't expect to make it to the film. (Both of which involved urine, but that's just a coincidence). I do not regret spending the $4 for the rental.

What did you think, DaMU?
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Post by DaMU » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:42 am

You're about where I'm at with the film, especially regarding the idea of embracing the more absurd tone that the creature design suggests. I mean, that is one goofy fucking monster. The movie doesn't work as a scare-fest or even shock-fest, but it also, for me, modulates its melodrama just a little too often for the flick to function as camp entertainment. So I ended up liking it less than you. I liked ideas, images, a few moments of goofball energy. But the dialogue is banal while only occasionally stupid. The acting from characters outside the verger are mostly boilerplate. I don't think the film makes quite enough bad choices to start being good again.
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Post by Jinnistan » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:25 pm

I fully embraced the goofball beast, and I honestly don't remember much else about it. Melodrama? Ooook. I'm sure somebody cried. But what a thriving goofball beast though!
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Post by DaMU » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:59 pm

Jinnistan wrote:
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I fully embraced the goofball beast, and I honestly don't remember much else about it. Melodrama? Ooook. I'm sure somebody cried. But what a thriving goofball beast though!
Funnily enough, I removed a line from my comments: that I think it's a movie better remembered than seen. Packaged as one of those YouTube "Highlights from Rawhead Rex" five-minute clip packages. I liked telling people about its most absurd moments, but I didn't really like slogging through the film to find them.
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DaMU wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:42 am
You're about where I'm at with the film, especially regarding the idea of embracing the more absurd tone that the creature design suggests. I mean, that is one goofy fucking monster. The movie doesn't work as a scare-fest or even shock-fest, but it also, for me, modulates its melodrama just a little too often for the flick to function as camp entertainment. So I ended up liking it less than you. I liked ideas, images, a few moments of goofball energy. But the dialogue is banal while only occasionally stupid. The acting from characters outside the verger are mostly boilerplate. I don't think the film makes quite enough bad choices to start being good again.
I wouldn't say I "liked" it, there was just a certain charm in the fact that they went all-in with this ridiculous costume they had.

But yeah, I was also going to mention the dull cast. I've already forgotten what the wife looked like. If I had to pick her out of a lineup today I wouldn't be able to. Like you said, Declan was the only character that made any impression.

I'm certainly not one to turn my nose up at a cheesy monster, it's just hard to enjoy when we have to sit through so many scenes that are meant to be taken seriously.
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Post by DaMU » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:45 am

The Cloverfield Paradox - D

Well, that was stupid.
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Post by Rock » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:49 am

Alligator - Guys, this was pretty darn good.

Uncle Sam - Guys, this was pretty darn bad.
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Post by Rock » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:50 am

DaMU wrote:
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The Cloverfield Paradox - D

Well, that was stupid.
I found it inoffensively bad for the most part, but the last shot was hilarious.
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Post by Wooley » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:18 pm

Rock wrote:
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Alligator - Guys, this was pretty darn good.
I am inspired by your comment, to watch this. I haven't seen it since I was about 10.
And possibly to watch Black Water, Dark Age, Crawl, and Rogue (none of which I've seen).
Shit, I may even go back and watch Lake Placid (I enjoyed it back in the day).
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Post by Rock » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:56 pm

Wooley wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:18 pm
I am inspired by your comment, to watch this. I haven't seen it since I was about 10.
And possibly to watch Black Water, Dark Age, Crawl, and Rogue (none of which I've seen).
Shit, I may even go back and watch Lake Placid (I enjoyed it back in the day).
The monster scenes aren't the greatest (you can probably blame the budget; in the first half they try to limit how much you see of the alligator Jaws-style I suppose, but it's in a darkened sewer so you can't see fuck-all anyway), but everything around it is really well realized. There's even a running joke about Forster losing his hair that I'm pretty sure QT referenced in Jackie Brown.
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Post by DaMU » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:14 pm

Rock wrote:
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I found it inoffensively bad for the most part, but the last shot was hilarious.
"Hey, kids, don't forget about your ol' pal Clovey!"
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Post by Takoma1 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:47 pm

Wooley wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:18 pm
I am inspired by your comment, to watch this. I haven't seen it since I was about 10.
And possibly to watch Black Water, Dark Age, Crawl, and Rogue (none of which I've seen).
Shit, I may even go back and watch Lake Placid (I enjoyed it back in the day).
I cannot comment on any of the others (though I'm excited to watch Crawl at some point), but you MUST see Black Water. It's got both terrifying and suspenseful attack sequences and memorable characters and moving character dynamics.
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Post by Wooley » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:27 pm

Takoma1 wrote:
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I cannot comment on any of the others (though I'm excited to watch Crawl at some point), but you MUST see Black Water. It's got both terrifying and suspenseful attack sequences and memorable characters and moving character dynamics.
I may watch it today, I'm having hung-over-on-the-sofa day after a weird date-night. A good alligator/crocodile-attack-movie might be just the thing.
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Post by Captain Terror » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:57 pm

Be advised that Captain Terror (Os Perkins fan and a champion of Slow-Burns in general) was fighting sleep throughout Gretel and Hansel. (Pretty sure sleep briefly won, but I can't verify that. Felt like I dozed a bit at one point).
I feel like anyone interested in the film should factor that into their decision. :) On the plus side, it's a gorgeous film and I mostly liked it all but I probably should've just rented it instead, allowing me to pause it occasionally and have a nap.

If I were ranking Perkins films I'd probably put this at #3, though.
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Post by Wooley » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:51 pm

Takoma1 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:47 pm
I cannot comment on any of the others (though I'm excited to watch Crawl at some point), but you MUST see Black Water. It's got both terrifying and suspenseful attack sequences and memorable characters and moving character dynamics.
Damn, unfortunately Black Water is not streaming on anything I have access to.
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Post by Takoma1 » Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:12 am

Wooley wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:51 pm
Damn, unfortunately Black Water is not streaming on anything I have access to.
Bummer. Keep an eye out for it. I think it's really solid.
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Post by Charles » Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:57 am

There are... sublegal ways to find it, if you're into that.
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Post by Takoma1 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:32 am

Nos4a2 is on Hulu.

Yay? Nay? Meh?
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Post by Deschain13 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:11 am

Takoma1 wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:32 am
Nos4a2 is on Hulu.

Yay? Nay? Meh?
Meh sounds about right.
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Post by Takoma1 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:49 pm

Deschain13 wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:11 am
Meh sounds about right.
Aw, too bad.
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Post by Torgo » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:18 pm

Having seen Tenebre and Suspiria, I believe that Phenomena would be a good introductory movie for anyone unfamiliar with Dario Argento. It has a traditional (for him, anyway) murder mystery plot, and from Goblin's wonderful score to the brutal yet oddly beautiful violence, it has many of his best trademarks. Setting the movie in a land that is gorgeous yet rife with secrets like Switzerland was an inspired choice, and if Labyrinth and Once Upon a Time in America didn't sell you on the young Connelly's talent, this movie surely will. She ably holds the movie together and totally makes her implausible talent seem legitimate. It all amounts to a strong story about the value of giving strange and unusual people a chance and serves as a reminder that as unpleasant and off-putting as insects can be, they are tame in comparison to humans at their worst. Despite all this, and even though a precocious chimpanzee has a pivotal role, it didn't wow me as much as the other Argento movies I've seen. Like I said, it works best as a movie to let Argento novices know what they're in for if they wish to delve deeper into his filmography.
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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:52 pm

Interesting. I think the most intriguing part of Phenomena is how Argento tries to blend the two chapters of his career, the giallo and supernatural. If I were dealing with a rookie, I’d start with Bird with Crystal Plumage or Deep Red. Build to Tenebre, Suspiria and Inferno. Cap it off with Phenomena.
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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:53 pm

Interesting. I think the most intriguing part of Phenomena is how Argento tries to blend the two chapters of his career, the giallo and supernatural. If I were dealing with a rookie, I’d start with Bird with Crystal Plumage or Deep Red. Build to Tenebre, Suspiria and Inferno. Cap it off with Phenomena.

Then fill in the gaps.
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Post by Rock » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:02 pm

Phenomena is great, especially the chimpanzee. Between this and Monkey Shines, more horror movies should have primate assistants.
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Post by Torgo » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:23 pm

Rock wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:02 pm
Phenomena is great, especially the chimpanzee. Between this and Monkey Shines, more horror movies should have primate assistants.
...as long as they don't talk, i.e. Congo, if that counts as a horror movie.

In all seriousness, as good as Connelly is, Inga may give the best performance in the movie. She's totally convincing as a chimpanzee assistant. Plus,
that switchblade attack makes for a hella satisfying finale.
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Post by DaMU » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:49 am

I have no idea if Stuart Gordon's The Pit and the Pendulum sustains, but the five minute opening is a fucking hoot.
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