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Post by Wooley » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:36 pm

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Haha, looking forward to it! I'll alert my loved ones of my impending demise via exploding head.

As for Phantom, I can head you off at the pass and tell you it probably won't live up to its status. As a film I don't consider it to be great. Let's just say there's a reason that this is the only Rupert Julian movie you've ever heard of. I read the novel for the first time a few years ago and found it pulpy and not very good. So it's my assertion that if it wasn't for Lon Chaney, none of us would have ever heard of this story. Granted, it has resonated enough over the years to inspire many adaptations, some of them extremely popular, but I maintain that it only stuck in anyone's consciousness in the first place because of Chaney.

Which brings us to...Lon Mothereffing Chaney. I don't have to tell you that this movie is essential for monster kids, but Chaney's quite a thing to behold here. Not just the makeup, but the intensity behind it. This is one of those silent films that I feel needs to be silent, because there's no voice that could do justice to that face.

So, do I sit down and watch this all the time? No. Lately I'm content to just pop the Blu in and scan to my favorite parts. My advice is to expect some boring parts and some head-scratching parts, and just hang around for Chaney doing his thing.
I know what you mean. I watched that weird restoration of London After Midnight and, even though it's hardly a film, Chaney just struck me like horror-lightning.
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Post by Deschain13 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:33 pm

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I'll probably get voted off the island for saying this, but I really didn't like The Devil's Rejects. I found it to be a constant stream of unpleasantness from beginning to end. I've enjoyed movies that have the kind of unpleasantness found in this movie, but what those movies do that this one doesn't do is know when to show it as well as how much. Instead of a steady stream, movies like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes that likely inspired this movie - Michael Berryman is in it, after all - have qualities like nuance, buildup, tension and the insight to know when the camera should be pointing at something gruesome and when it should be pointing at something else because it's an occasion to leave the grisliness of an outcome up to the imagination. I mean, there are reasons why metal concerts break up the fast and heavy stuff with ballads and solos and why pornography isn't just constant sex: constant anything is dull, so much so that it makes people do things like tune out and/or play with their cell phones, which I spent most of the running time doing. Sid Haig and Ken Foree's very good performances helped get me through it, and while I like what Zombie seems to be saying that unreasoning blind faith, whether it's in service to the divine or to evil, is bad for you, the message is undercut by everything else I've complained about. If I can say anything good about it, it's that watching it makes me want to give up alcohol, caffeine and everything else my doctor tells me to enjoy in moderation for a while so I can detoxify myself from the experience.
I don’t like it either but then again I don’t dig Zombie’s movie style in general.
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Post by Wooley » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:06 pm

Torgo wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:21 pm
I'll probably get voted off the island for saying this, but I really didn't like The Devil's Rejects. I found it to be a constant stream of unpleasantness from beginning to end. I've enjoyed movies that have the kind of unpleasantness found in this movie, but what those movies do that this one doesn't do is know when to show it as well as how much. Instead of a steady stream, movies like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes that likely inspired this movie - Michael Berryman is in it, after all - have qualities like nuance, buildup, tension and the insight to know when the camera should be pointing at something gruesome and when it should be pointing at something else because it's an occasion to leave the grisliness of an outcome up to the imagination. I mean, there are reasons why metal concerts break up the fast and heavy stuff with ballads and solos and why pornography isn't just constant sex: constant anything is dull, so much so that it makes people do things like tune out and/or play with their cell phones, which I spent most of the running time doing. Sid Haig and Ken Foree's very good performances helped get me through it, and while I like what Zombie seems to be saying that unreasoning blind faith, whether it's in service to the divine or to evil, is bad for you, the message is undercut by everything else I've complained about. If I can say anything good about it, it's that watching it makes me want to give up alcohol, caffeine and everything else my doctor tells me to enjoy in moderation for a while so I can detoxify myself from the experience.
I like Zombie's aesthetic a lot but sometimes his extreme violence is too much for me. This is really the prime example. I really like the rest of the movie. If it was just a little less brutal I would probably really like it and want to watch it often. I do really like House of 1000 Corpses. But I really prefer not to re-watch TDR.
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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:13 pm

I think the pitch black humor of TDR and the use of music keep it’s extreme content from seeming punishing. It comes off as celebration of the grotesque rather than something like Martyrs or Eden Lake that tries to make its audience miserable. The rant about Groucho Marx and Elvis or the chicken fucker accusations are just so deeply silly that it permeates into even the heaviest scenes.

Bill Moseley also sounds a lot like Will Forte but that’s not an intentional laugh.

I love the Devil’s Rejects. Blind bought 3 From Hell on 4K. Aside from Haunted World of El Superbeasto and the Halloween remake, I defend Rob Zombie.
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Wooley wrote:
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Yeah, you and I are done.
Prom Night > Vampire Circus
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Prom Night > Vampire Circus
Don't be silly.
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crumbsroom wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:07 am
Prom Night > Vampire Circus
*GASP*
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Post by Rock » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:12 am

Torgo wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:21 pm
I'll probably get voted off the island for saying this, but I really didn't like The Devil's Rejects. I found it to be a constant stream of unpleasantness from beginning to end. I've enjoyed movies that have the kind of unpleasantness found in this movie, but what those movies do that this one doesn't do is know when to show it as well as how much. Instead of a steady stream, movies like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes that likely inspired this movie - Michael Berryman is in it, after all - have qualities like nuance, buildup, tension and the insight to know when the camera should be pointing at something gruesome and when it should be pointing at something else because it's an occasion to leave the grisliness of an outcome up to the imagination. I mean, there are reasons why metal concerts break up the fast and heavy stuff with ballads and solos and why pornography isn't just constant sex: constant anything is dull, so much so that it makes people do things like tune out and/or play with their cell phones, which I spent most of the running time doing. Sid Haig and Ken Foree's very good performances helped get me through it, and while I like what Zombie seems to be saying that unreasoning blind faith, whether it's in service to the divine or to evil, is bad for you, the message is undercut by everything else I've complained about. If I can say anything good about it, it's that watching it makes me want to give up alcohol, caffeine and everything else my doctor tells me to enjoy in moderation for a while so I can detoxify myself from the experience.
There is no fucking ice cream in Torgo's fucking future!

Speaking from experience, this is a case where a second viewing a couple of years down the line might change your opinion. Like you I found it consistently unpleasant and shrill the first time around, but with a subsequent viewing I think I was able to appreciate the specific rhythms and the ways Zombie riffs on and channels his inspirations without outright imitating them. Of course, this viewing was after I'd seen a lot more horror movies that might qualify as endurance tests, and I'd agree with MKS that Zombie's sense of humour helps make it a lot less unpleasant than a lot of other splatter movies.
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Takoma1 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:20 am
*GASP*
It should be kept in mind how much I love Prom Night

I looooove Prom Night
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The Devil's Rejects > Prom Night

*drops mic*

I probably should watch Vampire's Circus.
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Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night II > Prom Night
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Post by Rock » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:32 am

Captain Terror wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:28 am
Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night II
I almost rented that earlier this week.
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Rock wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:24 am
The Devil's Rejects > Prom Night

*drops mic*

I probably should watch Vampire's Circus.
The Devil's Rejects> Vampire Circus >Prom Night

Tutti fuckin' fruity!!!

I think the audacity of portraying a serial killer family as an actual family is one of the most inspired yet obvious after the fact takes on the subject. That I hadn't seen a serial killer family that felt "real" in that way (even in House of 1000 Corpses) made the film so unique that it held up just on that element alone.
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Post by crumbsroom » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:41 am

Fuck all you Prom Night under-appreciators

*storms out into the night, never to be seen again*
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Post by Captain Terror » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:43 am

Rock wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:32 am
I almost rented that earlier this week.
Saw it last year during my all-80s October and was pleasantly surprised. It's not at all related to the first film and is not even a slasher, so keep that in mind. It's more of a supernatural Tales From the Crypt kind of thing which happens to be my comfort zone. Your results may vary. Using Wooley's system, I'd call Prom Night a September movie while Prom Night II is a solid October.
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Post by Deschain13 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:51 am

I just watched Australian slasher Red Christmas which has a creepy villain and some fun kills but was otherwise pretty bad. It was going for some message about religion or abortion but what exactly? Damned if I know. By the end I was pretty embarrassed for everyone involved.
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crumbsroom wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:17 am
It should be kept in mind how much I love Prom Night

I looooove Prom Night
I'll never understand this.
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Post by DaMU » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:05 am

Funny you're all talking about Rejects, rewatched this clip today and I'm still laughing about it. Fabulous.

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Post by Torgo » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:54 pm

I did laugh at the bathroom/coffee cup match cut, but sorry guys, I can't dig it. Clearly, I haven't been corrupted enough to appreciate it.
No offense.
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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:50 pm

Torgo wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:54 pm
I did laugh at the bathroom/coffee cup match cut, but sorry guys, I can't dig it. Clearly, I haven't been corrupted enough to appreciate it.
No offense.
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ThatDarnMKS wrote:
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What's a matter? Don't ya like clowns?
I prefer Klowns. 8-)
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Post by Slentert » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:36 pm

Horror Express (1972)

Basically The Thing on a train featuring Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing. It's also very British and witty, it has a very classy feel to it à la The Lady Vanishes and Murder On the Orient Express, so I was a little bit surprised by the genuinely unnerving horror imagery the movie also has to offer.

There is one scene that really made me laugh out loud, when the Russian police inspector suggests that possibly Lee or Cushing could be the monster, and a shocked Cushing defends himself with the classic line "Monster? We’re British, you know!".
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Deschain13 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:51 am
I just watched Australian slasher Red Christmas which has a creepy villain and some fun kills but was otherwise pretty bad. It was going for some message about religion or abortion but what exactly? Damned if I know. By the end I was pretty embarrassed for everyone involved.
I think that it raised questions that it was not equipped to answer. And just generally speaking the idea of condemning a woman for having an abortion is kind of bonkers, especially when she was
already raising one child with a serious disability and overmatched by the idea of raising two at the same time.
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Post by Charles » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:20 am

Hey Tak, I believe you mentionned to me once the movie La habitación del niño when i asked about a movie where something paranormal happens and it's the man who sees it an the woman who doesn't believe him. Do you have any idea where the hell I can find it? If it was you who mentionned it, which I'm almost positive it is.
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Charles wrote:
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Hey Tak, I believe you mentionned to me once the movie La habitación del niño when i asked about a movie where something paranormal happens and it's the man who sees it an the woman who doesn't believe him. Do you have any idea where the hell I can find it? If it was you who mentionned it, which I'm almost positive it is.
It's only free on Tubi. I know it used to be free on Prime or Hulu or something, but it looks like it's not anymore.

But you could rent it off of Playstation, Amazon, YouTube, Vudu, GooglePlay, and Apple.

It most often goes under the name The Baby's Room.

I think it's a pretty chilling little horror/thriller. I'd be interested to know what you think if you do watch it.
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Takoma1 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:27 am
It's only free on Tubi. I know it used to be free on Prime or Hulu or something, but it looks like it's not anymore.

But you could rent it off of Playstation, Amazon, YouTube, Vudu, GooglePlay, and Apple.

It most often goes under the name The Baby's Room.

I think it's a pretty chilling little horror/thriller. I'd be interested to know what you think if you do watch it.
Thank you! I found it on Vudu, I'll watch it next weekend.
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Post by Takoma1 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:40 am

Too Scared to Scream

A charming escort returns home to her apartment building. Watched by several suspicious characters (her shady client, the creepy neighbor, the night doorman), she heads in for the night. Later, she is brutally attacked in her apartment, becoming the first of many tenants to end up on the wrong end of a blade. But who is doing the killing?

It took me a hot second to figure out why I'd added this film to my watchlist, but now I'm pretty sure it's because a young Ian McShane plays Vincent, the most obvious suspect. Vincent is a mannered man who takes care of his wheel-chair bound, seemingly paralyzed mother.

This one was just very . . . eh. The kills themselves are okay. And I did appreciate that the character of the escort is treated with respect--she's funny and likable, we see her banter with her pet bird, and after her death we hear a voice message from her mother. McShane has presence as the Shakespeare quoting Vincent.

But the film really misses the mark in terms of its two protagonists, detectives Dinardo and Bridges. Bridges, you see, is the hot new lady detective, while Dinardo is the seasoned detective. And naturally they . . . are in a romantic relationship? The actor playing Dinardo, Mike Connors, is literally 32 years older than Anne Archer. And I know that May-December can totally be a thing, but their sexual and romantic chemistry is zero. There's a "charming" running joke about all the sexist things he says to her, and it makes no sense that they are an item. Inexplicably, the film spends a ton of time with them as they tepidly banter over dinner or at the precinct and it grinds the film's momentum to a halt every time.

The very last 15 minutes do contain some interesting moments, but there's also some *MILD SPOILERS*
cliched "evil gay"
stuff that doesn't play well because it's so thinly sketched.

I wouldn't tell anyone to avoid this film, but it's a pretty tepid 6/10 for me and certainly not a recommendation.
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Post by Takoma1 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:38 pm

In the Deep Woods

So this month I've been "cleaning house" in terms of films I've had on my watchlist for a long time. As a result I've been watching a lot of kind of middling horror and this one was no exception.

Joanna is a children's book author living in a town where a serial killer has started torturing and murdering women. Joanna soon finds that she is surrounded by men who seem to be prime suspects: her brother Tommy, an enigmatic private investigator, her boyfriend, and the lead detective working the case.

There's such a thing as a field of suspects, and then there's just too much. The film is overstuffed with male characters saying or doing ominous things as Joanna looks on in barely-disguised suspicion and/or horror. Her brother talks about tying knots in a rope. The lead detective gets really aggressive when Joanna turns him down for a date. Her boyfriend pulls out candles purchased at the shop owned by a victim. The private investigator trails her through a parking garage.

The film never really comes together because it just bounces between scenes of Joanna freaking out, repeatedly calling the police on men who are following her and then watching as the protesting men are taken away by the police (always to be immediately released).

The discovery of the killer, when it arrives, is just straight up stupid. It's the kind of thing that makes me wonder how the actors kept a straight face as they described the killer's "pattern."

This does get a little notch of trivia for being Anthony Perkins' last film. He plays the private investigator and he's . . . fine. All of the cast is fine, but they don't really have that much to work with.

It's not awful, by any means, but it's not an "event" film.
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Hello horror people, does anyone here listen to the Magnus Archives podcast?
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Post by crumbsroom » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:21 pm

Slentert wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:36 pm
Horror Express (1972)

Basically The Thing on a train featuring Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing. It's also very British and witty, it has a very classy feel to it à la The Lady Vanishes and Murder On the Orient Express, so I was a little bit surprised by the genuinely unnerving horror imagery the movie also has to offer.

There is one scene that really made me laugh out loud, when the Russian police inspector suggests that possibly Lee or Cushing could be the monster, and a shocked Cushing defends himself with the classic line "Monster? We’re British, you know!".
Such an over looked gem. I was shocked how much I loved this when I saw it.
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Post by Takoma1 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:12 am

Evil wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:46 pm
Hello horror people, does anyone here listen to the Magnus Archives podcast?
I don't (and I don't really listen to any podcasts), but it sounds interesting! Sort of like a serialized fiction deal?
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Post by Evil » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:32 am

Takoma1 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:12 am
I don't (and I don't really listen to any podcasts), but it sounds interesting! Sort of like a serialized fiction deal?
Yeah, it's totally scripted fiction. The structure is that its statements of people's paranormal experiences read by the director of the Magnus Archives, kind of a low rent private x files. Because it is just one person it doesn't become like a radio play kind of deal (not very often anyways) and they are just super spooky creepy little horror stories. As it goes on it starts tying together in a bigger plot and you learn more about the archivist, the organization, and the spooky world they live in.

It works great for me cause while I love horror movies they dont scare me much, just having the visuals takes the edge off the fear, whereas books get me good cause you can conjure it all up in your mind, and the podcast is in the same gravy zone for me. You get the atmosphere of the voice and the music (which is so good as well), but your mind can run off wildly visualizing all the horror. I'm like 50 eps deep (they're all between 20 -30 minutes) so far and theres been no real duds yet.
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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:52 am

The Lighthouse is magnificent. And these were my same thoughts but longer!

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Evil wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:32 am
Yeah, it's totally scripted fiction. The structure is that its statements of people's paranormal experiences read by the director of the Magnus Archives, kind of a low rent private x files. Because it is just one person it doesn't become like a radio play kind of deal (not very often anyways) and they are just super spooky creepy little horror stories. As it goes on it starts tying together in a bigger plot and you learn more about the archivist, the organization, and the spooky world they live in.

It works great for me cause while I love horror movies they dont scare me much, just having the visuals takes the edge off the fear, whereas books get me good cause you can conjure it all up in your mind, and the podcast is in the same gravy zone for me. You get the atmosphere of the voice and the music (which is so good as well), but your mind can run off wildly visualizing all the horror. I'm like 50 eps deep (they're all between 20 -30 minutes) so far and theres been no real duds yet.
Neat!

I quite enjoyed several episodes of Welcome to Nightvale and the similar dynamic of isolated weirdness sort of cohering into something bigger. I'll add this one to my "listen list".
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Wooley wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:59 am
I'll never understand this.
It's easy to understand when you are as suspicious as I am about genre conventions. Especially when the genre is the almost entirely stupid and pointless slasher.

I think Prom Night was best defended years ago by Rock when he said (and I'm paraphrasing) it is mostly just about a bunch of highschoolers who are just really excited about going to Prom. The fact that the slasher element just gets blended in with this makes it an extremely charming movie for what it is.

It's very dumb. It's not terribly well made. But it has lots of great and odd moments. It is distinct. In failing to be a good slasher movie, it manages to become one of the better ones. By default.

Loooooooove it.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:10 am

It Follows (2014) - 8/10

This one hit a number of my sweet spots for horror quite well. For one, I think the premise of it is brilliant. The idea of an unstoppable entity which you'll never be safe from regardless of how many people it's passed on to freaks me out. This was conveyed quite well throughout it all up to the brilliant ending which makes the film feel like a nightmare which you didn't wake up from. I also love the tone of the film, which is conveyed quite well in the cinematography. And with this, I'm not just referring to the occasional clever shot composition, but specifically the camera movements. Often when the camera moves and zooms in, it does so at a slow, creeping pace which, intentional or not, matches how the entity also moves at a slow, creeping pace. In addition, the couple 360 degrees rotations are impressive and do a fine job at raising tension. To top it off, some scares are delivered subtly as some creepy moments aren't even mentioned by the characters and can only be noticed if you pay close attention to various parts, making those scenes all the more disturbing. Finally, I also admire how, despite the low budget, the film looks really good (look at all the outdoor scenes in it). Some people argued that the film should've explained more about how the premise works (e.g., does anal sex, oral sex, sex without ejaculation, etc. infect you?). However, considering that it would take too much time to answer all the questions I've seen brought up on this aspect and considering how the film is a parable for AIDS, I prefer to just assume that if what you're doing could potentially give you AIDS in real life, the entity spreads to you.
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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:27 am

It Follows is much more than a parable for AIDS. It’s an exploration of the fault lines between youth and adulthood, sex and death. It’s an existential nightmare about learning to live with the realization that death is inescapable and just as sex creates life, with life comes the inevitability of death. Getting caught up in the logistics and minutiae of how the entity works is to miss the forest for the trees.

One of the best horror movies of the last 20 years.
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Post by crumbsroom » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:28 am

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:10 am
It Follows (2014) - 8/10

considering how the film is a parable for AIDS
AIDS is too narrow a definition as a theme.

I would elaborate, but I'm much too slow a typer tonight.
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Post by crumbsroom » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:30 am

ThatDarnMKS wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:27 am
It Follows is much more than a parable for AIDS.
Someone beat me to the punch.

The perils of slow typing.
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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:31 am

crumbsroom wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:30 am
Someone beat me to the punch.

The perils of slow typing.
I gotchoo, fam. Just view me as saving you the trouble.
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Post by crumbsroom » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:31 am

ThatDarnMKS wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:27 am
It’s an exploration of the fault lines between youth and adulthood, sex and death. It’s an existential nightmare about learning to live with the realization that death is inescapable and just as sex creates life, with life comes the inevitability of death
Very yes.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:38 am

ThatDarnMKS wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:27 am
It Follows is much more than a parable for AIDS. It’s an exploration of the fault lines between youth and adulthood, sex and death. It’s an existential nightmare about learning to live with the realization that death is inescapable and just as sex creates life, with life comes the inevitability of death. Getting caught up in the logistics and minutiae of how the entity works is to miss the forest for the trees.

One of the best horror movies of the last 20 years.
Thanks for filling me in on the themes. What you said is a more thorough description than what I said. Just to point out though, I didn't mean to imply that I agreed with the logistics criticism. What I meant was that I wasn't bothered by it unlike some people who were.
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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:54 am

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:38 am
Thanks for filling me in on the themes. What you said is a more thorough description than what I said. Just to point out though, I didn't mean to imply that I agreed with the logistics criticism. What I meant was that I wasn't bothered by it unlike some people who were.
You didn't imply you agreed but I thought I'd add to why they're even further off base. I just see the film often dismissed as an STD metaphor with nothing else to add when it is so much more.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:01 am

ThatDarnMKS wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:54 am
You didn't imply you agreed but I thought I'd add to why they're even further off base. I just see the film often dismissed as an STD metaphor with nothing else to add when it is so much more.
Okay, gotcha. I'll see if I can give this film another shot this month or next month now that I know what it's about.
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Post by Wooley » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:09 am

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Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:06 am
It's easy to understand when you are as suspicious as I am about genre conventions. Especially when the genre is the almost entirely stupid and pointless slasher.

I think Prom Night was best defended years ago by Rock when he said (and I'm paraphrasing) it is mostly just about a bunch of highschoolers who are just really excited about going to Prom. The fact that the slasher element just gets blended in with this makes it an extremely charming movie for what it is.

It's very dumb. It's not terribly well made. But it has lots of great and odd moments. It is distinct. In failing to be a good slasher movie, it manages to become one of the better ones. By default.

Loooooooove it.
Hmmm... because I am an open-minded person, and I am, and because you are a poster I respect (who am I kidding, the distillation of RT down to the folks who are left here has made it so that I pretty much respect everyone's opinion around here, but you are reliable even if we don't agree) I am going to take your defense of this movie, which I have considered one of the two worst American theatrical-release horror movies I've ever seen, as meritorious and give it another spin.
It can't be this year, too many things left to finish, but I'll do it.
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Post by Wooley » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:13 am

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:10 am
It Follows (2014) - 8/10

This one hit a number of my sweet spots for horror quite well. For one, I think the premise of it is brilliant. The idea of an unstoppable entity which you'll never be safe from regardless of how many people it's passed on to freaks me out. This was conveyed quite well throughout it all up to the brilliant ending which makes the film feel like a nightmare which you didn't wake up from. I also love the tone of the film, which is conveyed quite well in the cinematography. And with this, I'm not just referring to the occasional clever shot composition, but specifically the camera movements. Often when the camera moves and zooms in, it does so at a slow, creeping pace which, intentional or not, matches how the entity also moves at a slow, creeping pace. In addition, the couple 360 degrees rotations are impressive and do a fine job at raising tension. To top it off, some scares are delivered subtly as some creepy moments aren't even mentioned by the characters and can only be noticed if you pay close attention to various parts, making those scenes all the more disturbing. Finally, I also admire how, despite the low budget, the film looks really good (look at all the outdoor scenes in it). Some people argued that the film should've explained more about how the premise works (e.g., does anal sex, oral sex, sex without ejaculation, etc. infect you?). However, considering that it would take too much time to answer all the questions I've seen brought up on this aspect and considering how the film is a parable for AIDS, I prefer to just assume that if what you're doing could potentially give you AIDS in real life, the entity spreads to you.
Yeah, I'm pretty much with you on all of this. Like a lot of people I had some issues with the climax but I did love the last scene.
Also, I decided to let go of the notion of it as a parable for STDs, as the filmmakers vociferously disowned this claim, and just take it as a haunting that is passed by sex with maybe some deeper meanings than just that.
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Post by Wooley » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:13 am

ThatDarnMKS wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:27 am
It Follows is much more than a parable for AIDS. It’s an exploration of the fault lines between youth and adulthood, sex and death. It’s an existential nightmare about learning to live with the realization that death is inescapable and just as sex creates life, with life comes the inevitability of death. Getting caught up in the logistics and minutiae of how the entity works is to miss the forest for the trees.
Nice.
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Post by Deschain13 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:21 am

ThatDarnMKS wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:27 am
It Follows is much more than a parable for AIDS. It’s an exploration of the fault lines between youth and adulthood, sex and death. It’s an existential nightmare about learning to live with the realization that death is inescapable and just as sex creates life, with life comes the inevitability of death. Getting caught up in the logistics and minutiae of how the entity works is to miss the forest for the trees.

One of the best horror movies of the last 20 years.
It’s also a meta joke on the genre trope of if you have sex in a horror movie you get killed. :D
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Post by Wooley » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:50 am

Torgo wrote:
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I prefer Klowns. 8-)
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Post by Wooley » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:54 am

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Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:21 pm
Such an over looked gem. I was shocked how much I loved this when I saw it.
Another one I'll have to try again.
Despite my love of Hammer, Horror, Christopher Lee, Peter Cushing, and movies on trains, I did not even finish this one.
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