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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:47 pm

Rock wrote:
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I enjoyed Monkey Shines quite a bit when I watched it last year. It doesn't really "feel" like a Romero film for the most part outside of a few Creepshow-esque bursts of style (it actually probably has Stuart Gordon vibes than anything), but I respect its commitment to pulling off monkey-centric horror.
I'm rather irate that both MS and TDH are OOP. How dare Scream Factory do this to me!!!
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Post by Jinnistan » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:36 pm

Night of the Living Dead
Creepshow
Martin
Dawn of the Dead
Season of the Witch
Day of the Dead
Knightriders
Monkey Shines
Land of the Dead

Basically, I like all of these to varying degrees. Night gets the crown because it's hard to ignore its sheer low-fi gumption and influence. Creepshow is a pure pleasure for me. Dawn vacillates depending on the different cuts, which all (well, maybe excepting the theatrical) have unique pros and cons. Season needs to be on more people's lists, especially now that the restoration is a huge improvement on the faded old VHS. It's very similar to Martin in being a breakdown of the central myth (witches as opposed to vampires) and examining the allure which makes them attractive (interestingly, neither film has an explicit supernatural presumption). Knightriders can get a bit bloated, but its original conceit and an eager Ed Harris make it game. I also like Monkey Shines, nice mix of impotence and jealousy. And Land is weak, but inoffensive, and, as we'll see, was a relief after a particularly long spell of terrible choices.

The Crazies
Two Evil Eyes (M. Valdemar)
The Dark Half
Bruiser
Diary of the Dead

These all stink. Crazies (which I haven't revisited in some time) was grody and derivative. The rest are more depressing. Bruiser (which thankfully many of you seem not to have seen) is a waste, except for whatever chuckles Stormare can manage with his overacting. Diary effectively kept me from bothering with Survival, and I haven't heard any reason to doubt that instinct.
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Post by Captain Terror » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:54 pm

I rented The Crazies and Martin on the same weekend and did not find the former so much worse than the latter. Loved 'em both. This was not long after Katrina, when the idea that the gov't might nuke a city for being too inconvenient was frighteningly not far-fetched enough for comfort. 15 years later the gov't is literally invading US cities while literally bungling a literal pandemic. I think yall need to rewatch The Crazies. :)
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Post by MrCarmady » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:14 am

ThatDarnMKS wrote:
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(definitely seek out Torso. One of the greatest 3rd acts in all of horror cinema).
Yeah, you weren't kidding. That shot with the key, holy shit. I think I prefer the two Fenech masterpieces but this wasn't far behind. Gonna go for Wardh and Scorpion's Tail now.
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Post by Wooley » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:26 am

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I thought TCM the Beginning was fairly solid as well, though it does crank the grotesque to outlandishly cruel proportions, so I can't fault anyone taking issue.

I think Nispel's TCM is extremely well cast, from Biel to Ermy and everyone in between, and went the route of being extremely gorgeous in depicting it's ugliness. There's a texture to the images that evokes arthouse in way that's diametrically opposite of Hooper's approach, but still creates an authentic rendering of the gross, dregs of Texas (and boy do I know those dregs too well).

I Nispel's got a pretty solid track record as a director of horror remakes. It's his action films where his sensibilities collapse on themselves.
Yeah, I felt like Beginning just used the TCM story to truck in the some of the harshest torture-porn as that was the flavor du jour at that moment, and I felt that really betrayed the whole spirit of TCM which was incredibly shocking without spilling a drop of blood (as we all know). The way Beginning just lingered over the horrific cruelty was almost nauseating to me and did not enhance the film, either. I actually hated the movie for it.

I agree that Biel and Ermy were great and that the cast in general was very good. I think Biel gets a bum rap, I think her ability gets ignored or even unfairly misjudged by critics because of her physical beauty. What a bummer of a situation to find yourself in, you're one of the beautiful people and you can't get taken seriously because of it.
I also felt the film had a good texture a good feel and was wise not to try to ape the original but it still felt like it had a right feel for the material.
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Post by Wooley » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:33 am

I have only seen 6 or 7 Romero films so I don't feel qualified to be ranking his films.
But I will say I wish he had done more films like Creepshow. That movie has a real sizzle and is just unique. Despite my generalized loathing of "They're Creeping Up On You", I feel like the movie is a real joy to watch. The idea that Creepshow 2 should ever be considered in the same category is laughable at best.
Otherwise, NotLD is certainly a kind of masterpiece in much the same way that TCM is, Dawn otD is an interesting and worthy piece, and Day otD mostly sucks, unfortunately (although I'll concede it has its moments and might have worked better with a better budget and better actors).
And I have a very strong affinity, very strong, for Knightriders.
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Post by ThatDarnMKS » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:08 am

MrMac- Its hard to judge someone for preferring a movie with Fenech over one without. It is a clear metric that is very hard to dispute. My only possible suggestion is to imagine if Torso had also had Fenech. How clearly superior it would be to the others... Hope you dig Wardh as much as me and Scorpion's Tail far more than me.

Wooley: I can't blame you for feeling that way. They did decide to ramp the gore and cruelty up. I do think that despite that, the most effective scenes of horror aren't actually particularly gory but usually deal with the sadism of Ermy's Sheriff Hoyt. It's largely because of his performance (I also think the teens are stronger than your average 2000s slasher with the likes of Brewster and Baird) that I think it holds together and is worth watching. As I said, I can't blame you. I had a similar reaction to Eden Lake. While well made and acted, it reached an obnoxious level of cruelty towards it's characters that it became a boring wait for the inevitable end. Something about the mindset of "not only does she hide in a dumpster... But its a dumpster filled with actual shit! And sharp debris... And she not only stabs her foot, but its with a piece of bark the size of a steak knife! And she'll have to pull it out but its hard because she has shit covered fingers!" where it feels less like building a believable horror scenario and more like an unintentional Aristocats routine.

Complete agreement on Biel. She needed to do a Monster, where she uglies herself up so people could take her seriously. I thought the was rather great in both this and the Tall Man. I've heard great things about her in The Sinner, where they seem to have tried to deglamourize her.

The ire for that remake, when it's surrounded by films like The Fog and Prom Night, doesn't quite make sense to me.
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Post by Wooley » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:14 am

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Wooley: I can't blame you for feeling that way. They did decide to ramp the gore and cruelty up. I do think that despite that, the most effective scenes of horror aren't actually particularly gory but usually deal with the sadism of Ermy's Sheriff Hoyt. It's largely because of his performance (I also think the teens are stronger than your average 2000s slasher with the likes of Brewster and Baird) that I think it holds together and is worth watching. As I said, I can't blame you. I had a similar reaction to Eden Lake. While well made and acted, it reached an obnoxious level of cruelty towards it's characters that it became a boring wait for the inevitable end. Something about the mindset of "not only does she hide in a dumpster... But its a dumpster filled with actual shit! And sharp debris... And she not only stabs her foot, but its with a piece of bark the size of a steak knife! And she'll have to pull it out but its hard because she has shit covered fingers!" where it feels less like building a believable horror scenario and more like an unintentional Aristocats routine.

Complete agreement on Biel. She needed to do a Monster, where she uglies herself up so people could take her seriously. I thought the was rather great in both this and the Tall Man. I've heard great things about her in The Sinner, where they seem to have tried to deglamourize her.

The ire for that remake, when it's surrounded by films like The Fog and Prom Night, doesn't quite make sense to me.
Cheers on The Tall Man, I thought that was a performance that was so much better than what the movie seemed to be deserved that it held up the whole movie until you discovered the the movie was actually better than what it seemed. I was really impressed. Didn't see The Sinner but it seemed to be just that.
Absolutely agree, vs. those other films, TCM remake is like The Thing (great remake).
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Post by Thief » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:55 pm

I've heard a lot of great things about Martin, but never seen it. The only thing I've seen from Romero are the first four Dead films and The Crazies.
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Post by crumbsroom » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm

Because I'm within 24 hours of having to give up the sweet apartment I lucked out on getting five years ago, and getting to the brass tacks of committing to leaving the city I've lived in all my life, I'm looking for some sweet free YouTube movies I can watch to take my mind off of the most horrible thing in the world to me: change.

Bleerghhh.
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Post by Stu » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:28 am

crumbsroom wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
Because I'm within 24 hours of having to give up the sweet apartment I lucked out on getting five years ago, and getting to the brass tacks of committing to leaving the city I've lived in all my life, I'm looking for some sweet free YouTube movies I can watch to take my mind off of the most horrible thing in the world to me: change.

Bleerghhh.
While not every movie on this list is on Youtube, they are all free, which is the most important thing; I used as a source to discover this, which I enjoyed when I watched it recently:



Sorry to hear about the personal turmoil you're facing, btw, and I hope things will smooth out for you soon.
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Post by Captain Terror » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:03 pm

crumbsroom wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
Because I'm within 24 hours of having to give up the sweet apartment I lucked out on getting five years ago, and getting to the brass tacks of committing to leaving the city I've lived in all my life, I'm looking for some sweet free YouTube movies I can watch to take my mind off of the most horrible thing in the world to me: change.

Bleerghhh.
Is there a silver lining element to this at all?
I've lived in the same apartment since 1997, so I can relate. I don't always love it here, so getting kicked out might be a blessing in disguise for me. Can't get myself to make the move willingly.

I recently found a YT channel called PizzaFlix that has lots of full movies in good quality. A lot of it is pre-1950 B-movies though, so I can't say whether there's anything there for you.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:13 pm

I just reviewed Dead Man's Letters and enjoyed it, so if you haven't seen it, I'll link it here:



On a side note, sorry to hear about your personal struggles crumbs. I imagine it must be stressful, but I wish you the very best of luck with it.
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Post by crumbsroom » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:34 pm

Thanks for the linx...

There isn't any more turmoil here than any other quarantine fallout situation. Because of job uncertainty, which I compounded willingly by leaving my old job for good when they tried to screw me out of my final paycheck and said they would cut my salary if I wanted to come back in the fall, I don't know if I can afford to live solo anymore, in a city that is becoming increasingly expensive. Because I had the luck to meet someone just before the shut down, who I have been staying with the last five months, moving here permanently has become the clearest solution to this problem, since she is also having money issues covering her mortgage. But of course there are so many unknowns.

But, yes, there are silver linings. It will be nice not to live by self as I've done the last six years, and I've final gotten away from my scourge of a job, that only brought me misery. These are big positives. There are concerns too though. I loathe to give this apartment up. It's super affordable for the neighbourhood (even if I can't afford it anymore) and the area Ive lived in all these years will be hard to walk away from. It suits all my needs and more. It's a perfect community, full of live music, restaurants, pubs and a general amiable neighbours. The place I'm moving too is walking distance from a pizza place and a bowling alley and that's about it. I'm likely to go stir crazy because I'm someone who needs constant over stimulation. There is also the concern that I have absolutely zero friends here, leaving my only social contact the person I'm living with. And while we get along very while, considering the moody and volatile personalities we both have, there is always a concern that could go south if we are around eachother too much.

Ultimately, I needed to shake things up in life. And COVID is kind of my excuse to force these necessary changes on me. But the fact of making it official today, sends me into a cycle of anxiety that isn't great fun. I'm sure it will all be fine, but it's that uncertainty that causes worry. And when you compound that with all of the uncertainty there already is in the air, it's a rough time. Good thing I'm good at compartamentalizing things and not focusing on it tooooo much.

At least my cat is content with finally having a backyard. But I'm also stuck with a idiot dog who keeps getting sprayed by skunks and who never stops sitting next to me.
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Post by Captain Terror » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:23 pm

crumbsroom wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:34 pm
Ultimately, I needed to shake things up in life. And COVID is kind of my excuse to force these necessary changes on me.
Last year I'd decided that 2020 would be my last year at this current job, which I hate. And I'm not crazy about the direction my apt complex seems to be heading so I thought I might finally make a change there as well. But when COVID hit in March I decided now was not the time to try to rock my boat, so now I'm kind of stuck (by my own doing, granted) and my morale isn't great as a result. So you're doing what I'm too scared to do, if that makes you feel any better.
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Post by crumbsroom » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:42 pm

Captain Terror wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:23 pm
Last year I'd decided that 2020 would be my last year at this current job, which I hate. And I'm not crazy about the direction my apt complex seems to be heading so I thought I might finally make a change there as well. But when COVID hit in March I decided now was not the time to try to rock my boat, so now I'm kind of stuck (by my own doing, granted) and my morale isn't great as a result. So you're doing what I'm too scared to do, if that makes you feel any better.
I told myself the last five years it would be the last year I'd stay at this job and it never took traction. Tried to quit once before, on the same day my ex asked me to leave our house because she wanted her new bf to move in, so that was some pretty bad timing and had to eventually go back. So I get the frustration of not pulling the pin on that grenade. Sometimes you just have to blow everything up.

It was def the time for me though. I had got to the point in my job that I almost got into a physical altercation with my boss, and was frequently shit talking the owner as loudly as possible in hopes of getting myself fired. I had come to the conclusion they were the worst people I had ever met in my life and I was at the point that I was going to quit with absolutely no back up plan and no savings. I was basically willing to risk becoming homeless I was so unhappy. And then COVID happened, and realizing it gave me a chance to reboot my life away from work while getting government assistance I would not have got if I had walked out on my job, going back would have been impossibly intolerable. Especially when, as said above, they tried to rip me off of about a thousand dollars in cheques and were going to torch my salary anyways if I returned.

So I can at least tell myself as I move away from everything I know, that I really didn't have a choice. And it's not like I can't get on a bus and visit Toronto since I'll be less than an hour away. But it's going to be a very intense change of life for me, and one I'm sure will have it's own pile of challenges. Most importantly, finding a new job in the middle of a pandemic. Thankfully, I believe I still have about ten months left on benefits to find something. But I'm reeeeeally bad at looking at jobs, so I'll probably need every day of that.
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Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:54 pm

I also have a situation similar to Cpt. Terror. so all I can say is I hope things work out. if not for the best, then for the better.
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Post by crumbsroom » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:00 pm

Oxnard Montalvo wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:54 pm
I also have a situation similar to Cpt. Terror. so all I can say is I hope things work out. if not for the best, then for the better.
Sometimes change is better, no matter the outcome. Even if things implode in my face, I at least have the chance to rebuild. Instead of just huddling in the ruins of the life I somehow got myself stuck inside of.
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Post by Torgo » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:14 pm

Good luck in your job search, crumbs. If it's any consolation, a friend of ours got laid off a few months into the pandemic and she found a job a few weeks to a month later, so it is possible.
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Post by Jinnistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:00 am

You should get a big old truck.
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Post by crumbsroom » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:08 pm

Torgo wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:14 pm
Good luck in your job search, crumbs. If it's any consolation, a friend of ours got laid off a few months into the pandemic and she found a job a few weeks to a month later, so it is possible.
Fingers crossed.

And you should know my uselessness better, Jinnistan. Me, a license? Lol. All I could do with a truck is sit in the front and rage scream like Trump
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Post by Rock » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:14 pm

I am in a similar boat as Captain Terror and Oxnard, so all I can offer is a "good luck" and gently point in the direction of the YouTube thread. Also Tubi.
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Post by Jinnistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:53 pm

crumbsroom wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:08 pm
And you should know my uselessness better, Jinnistan.
I know it well enough to make a perfectly facetious suggestion.
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Post by crumbsroom » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:18 pm

Jinnistan wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:53 pm
I know it well enough to make a perfectly facetious suggestion.
I suppose I should get back to rage screaming at the end of my couch then.
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Post by Jinnistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:27 pm

crumbsroom wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:18 pm
I suppose I should get back to rage screaming at the end of my couch then.
It's probably safer than rage screaming at pedestrians at the end of a mack horn.
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Post by crumbsroom » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:42 pm

Jinnistan wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:27 pm
It's probably safer than rage screaming at pedestrians at the end of a mack horn.
I'm working my way up to this.
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