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Re: Award Season In Hell

Post by Jinnistan » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:11 pm

I think I would still vote for Phantom Thread as the best film of 2018 myself.
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Post by Rumpled » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:11 pm

When are those screeners leaked cause a lot of the nominated films ain't released til jan and feb!!!
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:55 pm

Jinnistan wrote: I think I would still vote for Phantom Thread as the best film of 2018 myself.
Out of curiosity, did you see Zama yet?
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Popcorn Reviews wrote: Out of curiosity, did you see Zama yet?
That would probably be a better use of my time at the moment.
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Post by Torgo » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:40 pm

2018 Screen Actors Guild nominations

Pro: Twice the Blunt (for Mary Poppins and A Quiet Place).
Con: None of the Hawke.
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Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 am

yo off-topic but speaking of Lucrecia Martel, did y'all know she was asked to direct Black Widow and it's like, could you even imagine such a thing?
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Oxnard Montalvo wrote:yo off-topic but speaking of Lucrecia Martel, did y'all know she was asked to direct Black Widow and it's like, could you even imagine such a thing?
I was hoping this was going to be the remake to the nearly excellent Debra Winger/Theresa Russell film.
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Torgo wrote:2018 Screen Actors Guild nominations

Pro: Twice the Blunt (for Mary Poppins and A Quiet Place).
Con: None of the Hawke.
Wonder if the nod for Washington in BlacKkKlansman will translate to more later on. I like his performance quite a bit, but aside from the phone calls, its heavy on deadpanning and not very showy, the kind of thing I don't think normally gets such recognition.
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Jinnistan wrote: I was hoping this was going to be the remake to the nearly excellent Debra Winger/Theresa Russell film.
Hah i watched that 2 days ago... and it is nearly excellent :up:
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Post by Jinnistan » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:10 am

I didn't watch the Globes, but it doesn't look impressive. I'm not sure why Bohemian Rhapsody is less of a musical than Vice is a comedy, but whatever.

I'm still apprehensive about Green Book, but, who knows? It wouldn't be the first film botched by an awful trailer, if that turned out to be the case. It still looks a bit too baity for me.

Probably the dumbest laugh of the night was actually this morning when the Church of Satan thanked Christian Bale for his praise. Because, as you know, sarcasm is dead in our social media world and everyone is an idiot.
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Jinnistan wrote:Probably the dumbest laugh of the night was actually this morning when the Church of Satan thanked Christian Bale for his praise. Because, as you know, sarcasm is dead in our social media world and everyone is an idiot.
It's a real shame Anton LaVey didn't live to see Twitter. He was born to troll.
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Post by Charles Longboat Jr. » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:50 am

2019 BAFTA nominations

Looks like Beale Street is going the way of Carol this year. Maybe it can pull a CMBYN style performance. It is pretty cool seeing two foreign directors in the Best Director category.

Also, it will be interesting to see if Green Book survives the stories that have arises about Peter Farrelly flashing people back in the 90’s and co-writer Nick Vallelonga agreeing with Trump’s claim that New Jersey Muslims cheered when the towers fell on 9/11. Granted, Farrelly apologized, but whether his apology is enough is up for debate.
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Post by Jinnistan » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:33 pm

Um. I may have "flashed my penis as a joke during the 90s" a couple of times. It was a long decade. Maybe some light...streaking, as well. I hope you can find a place in your hearts to welcome my regret.
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Post by MadMan » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:21 am

Someone said Terry Crews would be a great choice. I agree.
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Post by Jinnistan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:43 am

How about a self-serve trophy kiosk on stage?
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Post by Stu » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:09 pm

Jinnistan wrote:How about a self-serve trophy kiosk on stage?
:D
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Post by Charles Longboat Jr. » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:25 pm

Green Book wins at the PGA’s

I think Green Book is edging out A Star is Born as the premier baity frontrunner of the season. I don’t want to make judgements on it yet since I haven’t seen it, but I can’t help but feel disappointed at the possibility of it winning when we have a chance at seeing a foreign film win Best Picture for once.

Who knows, though? Maybe Tuesday will bring us some surprises.
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Post by Rumpled » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:46 pm

Official Oscar Nominees

So far...

Best Picture:

“Black Panther”
“BlacKkKlansman”
“Bohemian Rhapsody”
“The Favourite”
“Green Book”
“Roma”
“A Star Is Born”
“Vice”

Lead Actor:

Christian Bale, “Vice”
Bradley Cooper, “A Star Is Born”
Willem Dafoe, “At Eternity’s Gate”
Rami Malek, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Viggo Mortensen, “Green Book”

Lead Actress:

Yalitza Aparicio, “Roma”
Glenn Close, “The Wife”
Olivia Colman, “The Favourite”
Lady Gaga, “A Star Is Born”
Melissa McCarthy, “Can You Ever Forgive Me?”

Supporting Actor:


Mahershala Ali, “Green Book”
Adam Driver, “BlacKkKlansman”
Sam Elliott, “A Star Is Born”
Richard E. Grant, “Can You Ever Forgive Me?”
Sam Rockwell, “Vice”

Supporting Actress:

Amy Adams, “Vice”
Marina de Tavira, “Roma”
Regina King, “If Beale Street Could Talk”
Emma Stone, “The Favourite”
Rachel Weisz, “The Favourite”

Director:

Spike Lee, “BlacKkKlansman”
Pawel Pawlikowski, “Cold War”
Yorgos Lanthimos, “The Favourite”
Alfonso Cuarón, “Roma”
Adam McKay, “Vice”

Animated Feature:

“Incredibles 2,” Brad Bird
“Isle of Dogs,” Wes Anderson
“Mirai,” Mamoru Hosoda
“Ralph Breaks the Internet,” Rich Moore, Phil Johnston
“Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse,” Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey, Rodney Rothman

Animated Short:

“Animal Behaviour,” Alison Snowden, David Fine
“Bao,” Domee Shi
“Late Afternoon,” Louise Bagnall
“One Small Step,” Andrew Chesworth, Bobby Pontillas
“Weekends,” Trevor Jimenez

Adapted Screenplay:

“The Ballad of Buster Scruggs,” Joel Coen , Ethan Coen
“BlacKkKlansman,” Charlie Wachtel, David Rabinowitz, Kevin Willmott, Spike Lee
“Can You Ever Forgive Me?,” Nicole Holofcener and Jeff Whitty
“If Beale Street Could Talk,” Barry Jenkins
“A Star Is Born,” Eric Roth, Bradley Cooper, Will Fetters

Original Screenplay:

“The Favourite,” Deborah Davis, Tony McNamara
“First Reformed,” Paul Schrader
“Green Book,” Nick Vallelonga, Brian Currie, Peter Farrelly
“Roma,” Alfonso Cuarón
“Vice,” Adam McKay

Cinematography:

“Cold War,” Lukasz Zal
“The Favourite,” Robbie Ryan
“Never Look Away,” Caleb Deschanel
“Roma,” Alfonso Cuarón
“A Star Is Born,” Matthew Libatique

Best Documentary Feature:

“Free Solo,” Jimmy Chin, Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi
“Hale County This Morning, This Evening,” RaMell Ross
“Minding the Gap,” Bing Liu
“Of Fathers and Sons,” Talal Derki
“RBG,” Betsy West, Julie Cohen

Best Documentary Short Subject:

“Black Sheep,” Ed Perkins
“End Game,” Rob Epstein, Jeffrey Friedman
“Lifeboat,” Skye Fitzgerald
“A Night at the Garden,” Marshall Curry
“Period. End of Sentence.,” Rayka Zehtabchi

Best Live Action Short Film:

“Detainment,” Vincent Lambe
“Fauve,” Jeremy Comte
“Marguerite,” Marianne Farley
“Mother,” Rodrigo Sorogoyen
“Skin,” Guy Nattiv

Best Foreign Language Film:


“Capernaum” (Lebanon)
“Cold War” (Poland)
“Never Look Away” (Germany)
“Roma” (Mexico)
“Shoplifters” (Japan)

Film Editing:

“BlacKkKlansman,” Barry Alexander Brown
“Bohemian Rhapsody,” John Ottman
“Green Book,” Patrick J. Don Vito
“The Favourite,” Yorgos Mavropsaridis
“Vice,” Hank Corwin

Sound Editing:

“Black Panther,” Benjamin A. Burtt, Steve Boeddeker
“Bohemian Rhapsody,” John Warhurst
“First Man,” Ai-Ling Lee, Mildred Iatrou Morgan
“A Quiet Place,” Ethan Van der Ryn, Erik Aadahl
“Roma,” Sergio Diaz, Skip Lievsay

Sound Mixing:

“Black Panther”
“Bohemian Rhapsody”
“First Man”
“Roma”
“A Star Is Born”

Production Design:

“Black Panther,” Hannah Beachler
“First Man,” Nathan Crowley, Kathy Lucas
“The Favourite,” Fiona Crombie, Alice Felton
“Mary Poppins Returns,” John Myhre, Gordon Sim
“Roma,” Eugenio Caballero, Bárbara Enrı́quez

Original Score:


“BlacKkKlansman,” Terence Blanchard
“Black Panther,” Ludwig Goransson
“If Beale Street Could Talk,” Nicholas Britell
“Isle of Dogs,” Alexandre Desplat
“Mary Poppins Returns,” Marc Shaiman, Scott Wittman

Original Song:

“All The Stars” from “Black Panther” by Kendrick Lamar, SZA
“I’ll Fight” from “RBG” by Diane Warren, Jennifer Hudson
“The Place Where Lost Things Go” from “Mary Poppins Returns” by Marc Shaiman, Scott Wittman
“Shallow” from “A Star Is Born” by Lady Gaga, Mark Ronson, Anthony Rossomando, Andrew Wyatt and Benjamin Rice
“When A Cowboy Trades His Spurs For Wings” from “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs” by Willie Watson, Tim Blake Nelson

Makeup and Hair:

“Border”
“Mary Queen of Scots”
“Vice”

Costume Design:

“Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
“Black Panther,” Ruth E. Carter
“The Favourite,” Sandy Powell
“Mary Poppins Returns,” Sandy Powell
“Mary Queen of Scots,” Alexandra Byrne

Visual Effects:

“Avengers: Infinity War”
“Christopher Robin”
“First Man”
“Ready Player One”
“Solo: A Star Wars Story”
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Re: Award Season In Hell

Post by Rumpled » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:01 pm

Hey wait-a-minute... how come Roma's in best pic and best foreign pic?

Now we'll get double anti-trump acceptance speeches :roll:
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Post by Slentert » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:14 pm

Am I missing something? What was The Ballad of Buster Scruggs adapted from?
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Post by topherH » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:19 pm

I really need to watch more movies from this year.
State of Siege |Gavras, 1972| +
Deadpool |Miller, 2016| +
Z |Gavras, 1969| -
The Confession |Gavras, 1970| +
Missing |Gavras, 1982| +
The Revenant |Inarritu, 2015| +
The Hateful Eight |Tarantino, 2015| +

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Post by Slentert » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:29 pm

It seems like the Academy gets more and more boring every year.
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Post by Torgo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:29 pm

Slentert wrote:Am I missing something? What was The Ballad of Buster Scruggs adapted from?
The "All Gold Canyon" and "The Gal Who Got Rattled" segments are based on short stories.
That begs the question: since the other stories are original, will they only get a third of the trophy if they win?
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Post by Torgo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:31 pm

It's a crime that Ethan Hawke was snubbed for First Reformed. That's the performance I'll remember from 2018.
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Post by Captain Terror » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:24 pm

Torgo wrote: That begs the question: since the other stories are original, will they only get a third of the trophy if they win?
yes they get an Oscar bust instead of the full figure. :)
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Post by Slentert » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:57 pm

Torgo wrote: The "All Gold Canyon" and "The Gal Who Got Rattled" segments are based on short stories.
That begs the question: since the other stories are original, will they only get a third of the trophy if they win?
Ah, thank you, that clarifies a lot.
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Post by Torgo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:57 pm

Captain Terror wrote: yes they get an Oscar bust instead of the full figure. :)
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Post by Death Proof » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:10 pm

Rami Malek for best actor or we riot.

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Bbbbbbb......
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Post by Jinnistan » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:27 pm

So many films I haven't gotten a chance to see yet - The Favorite, Cold War, At Eternity's Gate, If Beale Street Could Talk. I'm sure some of you could recommend a torrent or two (and by all means).

And there are a couple of films (ahem...Green Book, A Star is Born) that I'm avoiding like kale & coconut cupcakes at some kind of twisted vegan first communion reception for my nephew (who ain't touching them either, it seems).

But it still feels very weak this year. Personally, I'd have added a lot more attention to some of the better films I've seen - Buster Scruggs, Sisters Brothers, You Were Never Really Here, Eighth Grade - but no matter how much I shake it out, Other Side of the Wind is still on top.
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Post by Jinnistan » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:29 pm

Torgo wrote:It's a crime that Ethan Hawke was snubbed for First Reformed. That's the performance I'll remember from 2018.
I'd much prefer to see his nomination rather than Schrader's screenplay.
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Post by LEAVES » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:29 pm

To be fair, it's a popularity contest. The Academy Members writ large are not paying enough attention to vote on Best Editing, and whatever other awards they give out mean nothing.
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Post by Jinnistan » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:17 pm

I know how constricting it is to have a show with no host. :shifty:

The DP award is ride-or-die for me. This may be the first telecast I will deliberately miss.


I'm still missing a couple of films from contention: Star Is Born (talk about letting the old ways die...), Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book. And there are several others which I haven't had an opportunity to catch: If Beale Street Could Talk, Shoplifters, Burning, At Eternity's Gate, Cold War. And even though the critical excitement cooled with a quickness, I'm still very interested in Vox Lux as well.

Despite these handycaps, I will neglegently prejudice my Oscar picks:

Roma
Alfonso Cuaron
Christian Bale
Olivia Colman (Lady Gaga will win)
Adam Driver
Rachel Weisz/Amy Adams (there's no wrong choice here)
Deborah Davis, Tony McNamara
Joel & Ethan Coen
Isle of Dogs

I'm not equipped to pick foreign or documentary films at the moment, and I'll split the technical awards amongst The Favourite (production design, cinematography) and Isle of Dogs (Desplat's score).
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Post by Jinnistan » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:03 am

"This is one of the weaker lineups in recent memory".

Amen, A.A. Too bad the rest of this article just shows why I stopped reading a lot of critics this year. Most of this is more about political wagering than appreciating what was actually on screen, and, don't worry dude, First Man indeed was molten mediocrity.

Can we just banish all of these assholes to twitter already?
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Post by Rock » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:52 am

I'm not in love with Dowd's written reviews, but I think he came off pretty well in the video reviews he used to do with Ignatiy Vishnevetsky (who's far and away the best critic on that site).
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Rock wrote:I'm not in love with Dowd's written reviews, but I think he came off pretty well in the video reviews he used to do with Ignatiy Vishnevetsky (who's far and away the best critic on that site).
I like him well enough, and yeah, his vids with Ignatiy were solid. They had a nice lil dynamic with Ignatiy as the more excitable / Dowd as the more grounded.
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I like him well enough, and yeah, his vids with Ignatiy were solid. They had a nice lil dynamic with Ignatiy as the more excitable / Dowd as the more grounded.
If Vishnevetsky's hairline receded and Dowd lost the facial hair, they could make a hipster Siskel and Ebert.
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Post by DaMU » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:40 am

Vice, like Bohemian Rhapsody, leaves me with a niggling sense that the filmmakers never quite figured out what it was about the central subject that appealed to them, that they wanted to communicate to the audience. This is a film that spends an inordinate amount of time on a historical prologue (about 1/3 of the film) prepping us on Cheney's pre-veep political experience, but within that, we never get a firm sense of what exactly it is he's chasing.

Which is fine if the film wants to keep us at arm's length to the man (and the film tries to suggest this with question-loaded narration from Jesse Plemons), but even then there's little genuine curiosity about what makes the man tick. As best as I can determine, at some point the man got a sense of power for its own sake, but the film's more interested in the bullet points of his legacy. Like Bohemian Rhapsody, it makes the mistake of thinking every interesting bit of the man's life deserves mention, even a shotgun blast to a face that does nothing except reinforce our persistently hazy understanding of Cheney as a man with whom to not mess. And the final burst of dialogue is garbage, suddenly giving us access only to deliver the most boring possible perspective.

In general, the film seems more impressed with its own existence than with taking the opportunity to say something cohesive and clear. This filters into the style as well, with sub-Errol-Morris touches like a stacked set of teacups, handled to less effect than the memorable Jenga tower in The Big Short. And needless historical counterpoints like, God help me, the "Whassup" guys. And dramatic text slapped onto the screen, underlined by someone saying the words at the exact same time, like the world's most self-impressed poli-sci TA. And oddball cameos from Alfred Molina and Naomi Watts. Watts gets little to do, but Molina at least headlines a scene that gets closest to the movie's opinion (such as it is) that these men are gluttonous, amoral pricks who are finally getting what they actually want, which is: the inability to be turned down. The inability to be negated. Nobody can say no to us now. Not much of a revelation, but at least it's related with clarity.

I think the challenge there is that, for them to finally get all that they've ever wanted, you need to show times where they were explicitly denied those things, so that it means something when the doors finally and permanently open to them.

1. BlackkKlansman - A-
2. The Favourite - A-
3. Black Panther - B
4. Vice - C
5. Bohemian Rhapsody - D+
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Post by Jinnistan » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:47 am

I agree with all of those issues with Vice.

I think that Christian Bale is deserving of the Oscar however, in spite of all of that. And I'm strongly sympathetic to Amy Adams (overdue, imo), but I'm still rooting for Weisz in that category.
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Post by Torgo » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:21 pm

Did anyone else watch the animated short nominees? They're all very good and I'd be fine with any of them winning, but I hope the award goes to Weekends. Speaking as a child of divorce, it really nails the awkward, arduous process of acheiving a new normal. I'm also a big fan of its dreamlike, children's book-like animation style.
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