Stu wrote:The confrontation in the car was indeed, a great bit of acting from Keaton, though his menace is undercut just a bit when you wonder why Peter didn't just do this during it. But in all seriousness, the scene in the car, while wonderful, was an outlier as far as memorable Vulture moments go, and there's really nothing else in the film from him that compares; the rest of the film, he just didn't make that big of an impression. I feel Loki is automatically the better villain simply because of Hiddleston's natural charisma and how much scenery-chewing fun he's obviously relishing his role with, even if he may not have any one scene in any of his films that's as memorable as the face-off in the car. And his relative lack of menace didn't derail the more dramatic moments of the original Thor for me, but I've already talked about that some earlier in this thread, so I'll just leave it at that for now, heh.
Anyway, I agree with you that the Winter Soldier was a good, conflicted MCU villain (even though his film felt like more of an excuse to show off a bunch of cool action scenes rather than tell an actual story), and Zemo was good with what development they gave him (and his film is actually my favorite MCU to date), and, while I quit using Netflix before I finished the 2nd season of Daredevil, based off S1, D'Onofrio's awkward, tortured depiction of Kingpin may indeed, make him the greatest villain in the Marvel multiverse to date.
I think Vulture having an economic origin at the beginning, a defined ethos that isn't world destruction/domination and degrees of humanity already what pushes him above the majority of MCU villains. I think he had significantly more scenes than just the car scene that elevated him, such as his moment in which he asks how he's different than Tony, who made his millions selling arms and capitalized in the New York incident. It's that rather ingenious approach to why he does what he does that makes him such a captivating villain
There's also the general cleverness in his construction, making Vulture someone who picks up scraps and the "twist."
I just thought Keaton nailed it and I'm not even particularly fond of the comic character. They surpassed the original text in my eyes.