Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

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Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Popcorn Reviews » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:19 am

Corrie Class Trip is a project where we rotate the selection of a title for group watches on an appointed day/date to then discuss [previous iterations linked below]. We welcome all to participate and share their thoughts and feelings! The seventh viewing for Round 4 is scheduled for Saturday, August 24th. Please post about the film itself and your experience with it in this thread, and any off-topic posts about the series itself in the Class Trip Discussion Thread.

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Hunger (Henning Carlsen, 1966)
In 1890, Pontus, the starving writer, wanders the streets of Christiania, in search of love and a chance to get his work published. All he meets is defeat and suffering while his sense of reality is withering. One moment his is delighted and the next he curses everybody. All the time he manages to maintain human dignity and pride. -IMDB

Past Trips, Senior Year:

#1 - Ex Drummer (2007, Koen Mortier, Belgium) | Slentert
#2 - The Territory (1981, Raul Ruiz, Portugal) | Rock
#3 - Wake In Fright (1971, Ted Kotcheff, Australia) | Popcorn Reviews
#4 - Night Must Fall (1964, Karel Reisz, UK) | Captain Terror
#5 - Fat Girl (2001, Catherine Breillat, France | Oxnard Montalvo
#6 - Marseille (2004, Angela Schanelec, Germany) | Oxnard Montalvo

Past Trips, Junior Year:

#1 - La maternelle (1933, Jean Benoît-Lévy & Marie Epstein, France) | wigwam
#2 - Time and Winds (2006, Reha Erdem, Turkey) | Oxnard Montalvo
#3 - Clean, Shaven (1993, Lodge Kerrigan, USA) | Popcorn Reviews
#4 - Diabeł (1972, Andrzej Żuławski, Poland) | Oxnard Montalvo
#5 - Black Friday (2004, Anurag Kashyap, India) | Rock
#6 - Schizopolis (1996, Steven Soderbergh, USA) | Slentert
#7 - Hearts and Minds (1974, Peter Davis, USA) | Popcorn Reviews
#8 - Xtro (1982, Harry Bromley Davenport, UK) | crumbsroom
#9 - The House (1997, Šarūnas Bartas, France) | Oxnard Montalvo
#10 - Spider-Baby (1967, Jack Hill, USA) | Slentert
#11 - Oh Lucy! (2017, Atsuko Hirayanagi, Japan/USA) | Shieldmaiden
#12 - The Heartbreak Kid (1972, Elaine May, USA) | Jinnistan

Past Trips, Sophomore Year:

#1 - The Worthless (1982, Mika Kaurismäki, Finland) | snapper
#2 - Shopping for Fangs (1997, Quentin Lee and Justin Lin, USA) | takeshi
#3 - The Heart of the Wise Lives in the House of Sorrow (2009, Marin Malešević, Serbia) | Shieldmaiden
#4 - The Forbidden Quest (1993, Peter Delpeut, Netherlands) | kopello
#5 - São Bernardo (1972, Leon Hirszman, Brazil) | Bandy Greensacks
#6 - Evdokia (1971, Alexis Damianos, Greece) | Epistemophobia
#7 - The Ball at the Anjō House (1947, Kōzaburō Yoshimura, Japan) | snapper
#8 - Sérail (1976, Eduardo de Gregorio, France) | takeshi
#9 - Passport for a Corpse (1962, Mario Gariazzo, Italy) | JediMoonShyne
#10 - Aksuat (1997, Serik Aprimov, Kazakhstan) | Shieldmaiden
#11 - Dangerously Excited (2011, Koo, South Korea) | wigwam
#12 - Himala (1982, Ishmael Bernal, Philippines) | snapper

Past Trips, Freshman Year:

#1 - Distant Journey (1949, Alfréd Radok, Czechoslovakia) | snapper
#2 - Nanami: The Inferno of First Love (1968, Susumu Hani, Japan) | Das
#3 - The Policewoman (2003, Joaquim Sapinho, Portugal) | charulata
#4 - Freeze, Die, Come to Life! (1989, Vitali Kanevsky, USSR) | Bandy Greensacks
#5 - The Perfume of the Lady in Black (1974, Francesco Barilli, Italy) | Trip
#6 - Weddings and Babies (1958, Morris Engel, USA) | snapper
#7 - The Man with Three Coffins (1987, Lee Jang-ho, South Korea) | Notes from Underground
#8 - Malina (1991, Werner Schroeter, Germany) | Shieldmaiden
#9 - Bad Luck (1960, Andrzej Munk, Poland) | B-Side
#10 - The Girl with the Suitcase (1961, Valerio Zurlini, Italy) | JediMoonShyne
#11 - The Engagement of Anna (1972, Pantelis Voulgaris, Greece) | BandyGreensacks
#12 - Our Neighbor, Miss Yae (1934. Yasujirō Shimazu, Japan) | snapper
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Re: Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

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Re: Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

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Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:42 pm

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Re: Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Popcorn Reviews » Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:28 am

Just finished it and overall, I'd say I got a lot more out of it the second time around. I picked up on some subtle pieces of info which I initially missed and I got a fairly better handle on a certain sub-plot near the end which I didn't care for the first time around.

I find this film to be a really fascinating and haunting character study. Through a near structure-less narrative where the writer mainly just walks around the city, we get quite a great deal of insight towards his personality. I enjoyed how, despite the fact that he was on the brim of becoming homeless throughout most of the film, he continued to stick to his shenanigans such as not accepting any money as he believed other people were in need of it more than him (even though he was in desperate need of it himself) and talking down to various people who didn't do any wrongs to him. I got some The Catcher in the Rye vibes from his characterization as, like Holden, both of these characters insulted people to make themselves feel better. The tragic irony of how the writer gave away money to random people though was that what he didn't realize (or didn't care about) was that he was actually doing harm to himself. This was especially prevalent for when he gave away his money and possessions to homeless people as he was at risk of becoming homeless himself. In addition,
the scene at the end where he gives away some money (which I assume Ylajali gave him) to the landlady who kicks him out was perfect. I laughed quite a bit at that scene, because to his point of view, he was probably having a blast showing how not only inferior the landlady was to him but also how Ylajali wasted the money she gave to him since he gave it away. In reality though, he basically finished digging his own grave at that point.
Now, as for the sub-plot which didn't do much for me on my first viewing, it was
his relationship with Ylajali. At first, I thought it was a bit on-the-nose as I found it surprising that she'd want anything to do with him after noticing him suspiciously spying on her several times. However, I think the reveal that Ylajali was already in a relationship with a man (there were a couple indications that her current lover wasn't that kind or noble) brought various implications to her character. For instance, maybe she was unhappy with her relationship, which is why she was willing to cheat on him with the writer, even if it meant throwing all caution to the wind. This is mostly subtext, but I couldn't help but think there was more going on with her character than what was presented to us at face value. So, for that reason, I didn't find anything unrealistic about that sub-plot.

Where I'm stuck right now is whether it was necessary for that sub-plot to be in the film. I assume it was a reminder on how his attitude will prevent him from maintaining a relationship, but the film already made it clear that he alienates people around him. I still found that sub-plot to be admirable enough. I'm just not sure it was necessary to abandon the structureless feel of the film to remind me of that. I'm interested in hearing other interpretations for that sub-plot.
Overall, I still think I might leave this one at an 8/10, but it's much closer to a 9 now and there's also a greater chance that I may revisit this one down the road.
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Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Jinnistan » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:50 am

A very interesting film. Thanks, Pops.

Where's crumbsroom amidst 'tis?
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Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Popcorn Reviews » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:22 am

Jinnistan wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:50 am
A very interesting film. Thanks, Pops.

Where's crumbsroom amidst 'tis?
I was initially going to wait for more people to arrive before asking this, but just for the heck of it, what's your take on the Ylajali sub-plot?
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Re: Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:01 am

I think it was fine. I may have not been in the mood for this kind of movie so I'll not hold it against the movie itself. I was expecting another exercise in artistic self-loathing and was glad to find myself half-admiring his doggedness, if by not sinking completely into despair (even if it meant being a bit crazy at times). which is probably why I interpreted the (what I assume was meant to be ambiguous) ending as an optimistic one - an opportunity to break out of his situation. and maybe give him a chance to leave his own head. or drive the crew nuts, heh.

I guesssssss I agree that the stuff with the rich lady was to show his inability to connect with someone "normal". though I thought it was a bit of wish fulfillment that he got as far he did. but then, we've seen dynamics like this in movies before.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:44 pm

I agree that his personality wasn't self-loathing. I think he gave the money he received throughout the film away and refused to eat food (it looked like he threw up the bit of soup he ate near the latter half of the film) because he was confident he'd be able to get as much as he needed once he was hired as a writer. He was just waiting for that to happen.
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Post by crumbsroom » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:08 pm

Jinnistan wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:50 am
A very interesting film. Thanks, Pops.

Where's crumbsroom amidst 'tis?
I've had the movie lying around unwatched for years. I guess I could use this as a motivator to finally give it a go.
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Post by Jinnistan » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:48 pm

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:22 am
what's your take on the Ylajali sub-plot?
Honestly, I was preoccupied thinking of how awful his mouth must have tasted.


crumbsroom wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:08 pm
I've had the movie lying around unwatched for years. I guess I could use this as a motivator to finally give it a go.
It's definitely a character you would take a shine to.

Not the mouth part though. I'm sure you have nicer teeth.
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Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Jinnistan » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:57 pm

Gee, I'd like to, Ave, but see, I'm not set up to mold hard rubber.
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Re: Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Popcorn Reviews » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:02 pm

Maybe we should let Ave host the next thread. I don't believe he's done one yet. Right, guys?
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Re: Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Jinnistan » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:06 pm

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:02 pm
Maybe we should let Ave host the next thread. I don't believe he's done one yet. Right, guys?
I am not watching some hatchback bullshit.

Maybe it was 1-2" longer....
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Re: Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Popcorn Reviews » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:09 pm

Jinnistan wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:06 pm
I am not watching some hatchback bullshit.

Maybe it was 1-2" longer....
Yeah, I don't think his pick will have enough thigh support for me.
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Aveslizer wrote:
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Ive seen the hood flap at 110 plus, but thats about it. On the track.

The seats are fine if you have normal to short legs. On a long trip, not enough thigh support for me. If the seat base were 1-2" longer, Id be happier. Im more torso than leg, but still.

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Aveslizer, you seem like an ok guy but I think you are on the wrong message board
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Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:13 pm

uh, I don't know if I have a lot of other thoughts about the movie. I'm glad they made it evident that the protagonist was a decent writer because to make him otherwise would have been exceptionally cruel.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:18 pm

For what it's worth, i'm a bit at a loss for words as well. I don't know what else to say on the film as of now.
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I need to find a cargo ship of my own.

but not today. too tired.
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Post by Popcorn Reviews » Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:18 am

Jinnistan, would you be interested in choosing the next topic?
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Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:20 pm

or I'll do another LEAVES movie, so help me
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Re: Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Jinnistan » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:43 am

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:18 am
Jinnistan, would you be interested in choosing the next topic?
I want to do a film I haven't seen before, and I've found a subtitled version of Eden and After, which I've been trying to eye for a couple of years now, on Youtube in pristine quality.

I'm going to watch it regardless, but if anyone else wants to join, I'll put up a thread.
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Re: Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Popcorn Reviews » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:28 am

Jinnistan wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:43 am
I want to do a film I haven't seen before, and I've found a subtitled version of Eden and After, which I've been trying to eye for a couple of years now, on Youtube in pristine quality.

I'm going to watch it regardless, but if anyone else wants to join, I'll put up a thread.
I'll watch it.
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Re: Corrie Class Trip 4.0 #7: Hunger (Sat 8/24)

Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:16 am

I haven't seen any Robbe-Grillet so I'd be down
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