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Post by Beau » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:39 pm

American Honey.

I haven't seen such an immersive film since Jia Zhangke's Still Life. It really feels like there's this world beyond the camera that we're afforded merely a glimpse of. You could say I was bored during a few brief stretches, but even that felt purposeful. And besides, I could always reliably count on some transcendent scene being just around the corner, so it was all worth it. And the characters all felt so lived-in. As if they'd had two or three seasons to adjust. Even the big movie star in the cast, the revitalized, arty version of Shia, who for the last few years has been going the James Franco route of perpetual performance art, minus the latter's penchant for reefer comedies and arch-ironic appearances in soap operas.
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Beau wrote:I haven't seen such an immersive film since Jia Zhangke's Still Life. It really feels like there's this world beyond the camera that we're afforded merely a glimpse of. You could say I was bored during a few brief stretches, but even that felt purposeful. And besides, I could always reliably count on some transcendent scene being just around the corner, so it was all worth it.
I know, right?! The cast, professional and not, are just right. And transcendent is a great word for some really unforgettable moments in this.

I updated that post, by the way, adding Chevalier and The Edge of Seventeen. In case anyone's keeping track...
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Post by Beau » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:21 pm

Toni Erdmann was my all. I haven't been so transfixed by a movie in some time. Reportedly, it's two hours and a half, but it felt like 90 minutes. The camerawork seems pedestrian at first glance, but along with the sound design it does wonders to build a space around the characters, which is important because the whole movie's about how the characters relate that (social) space around them. Special stuff. There's a scene of transcendent (there's that word again) comedy of awkwardness near the end (you can imagine which) that had me doing cartwheels on my sofa, as I was both unable to look and even more incapable of looking away.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:08 pm

I'll watch that one again soon. It's the kind of movie (the squirmy, awkward kind that Ade is soooo good at) that I have trouble with the first time. And, yeah, I think I know the scene you're talking about. It made me giddy. :)
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Another update to my Women of 2016 post, now that I've seen Queen of Katwe and The Love Witch.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:10 pm

Beau wrote:Toni Erdmann was my all. I haven't been so transfixed by a movie in some time. Reportedly, it's two hours and a half, but it felt like 90 minutes. The camerawork seems pedestrian at first glance, but along with the sound design it does wonders to build a space around the characters, which is important because the whole movie's about how the characters relate that (social) space around them. Special stuff. There's a scene of transcendent (there's that word again) comedy of awkwardness near the end (you can imagine which) that had me doing cartwheels on my sofa, as I was both unable to look and even more incapable of looking away.
:fresh:

I saw it with a cast Q&A after. Wonderfully awkward.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:11 pm

I should see American Honey.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:59 pm

Oh, you should! You'll love it, guaranteed!
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:26 am

I've added three more to my Women of 2016 post, bringing the total to...yes, sixteen! It really has been a good year, I think. And this was a fun project, but I wish now I hadn't put all the films in one post. :-/
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Post by Eminence Grise » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:23 am

Ya, American Honey is good.
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Post by Beau » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:10 pm

Of course it is.

Too bad I can't recommend it to many local cinephiles, many of whom are affiliated with the Anti-Pretension Brigade.

Still, some good things come from reading their preferences. Yesterday I watched Amityville 2: The Possession, a film I'd have never seen if it hadn't been for a certain Facebook thread, and it was indescribably awesome. There's some really cool camera work and atmosphere. Also, besides the paranormal stuff, there's some mundane everyday horror, like domestic violence, that gives the script interesting depth and layering. Still pretty campy in spots, but in a good way. Also, incest.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:32 am

Eminence Grise wrote:Ya, American Honey is good.
Isn't it? :heart:
Beau wrote:Too bad I can't recommend it to many local cinephiles, many of whom are affiliated with the Anti-Pretension Brigade.
Is it pretentious? It's practically reality TV! I guess I can't tell anymore.
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Shieldmaiden wrote:Isn't it? :heart:

Is it pretentious? It's practically reality TV! I guess I can't tell anymore.
It's long and meandering and has interminable takes of people just existing in front of depressing backdrops.

So, yeah. It's no Amityville 2: The Possession.
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This thread is only about 15000 page views shy of half-a-million!

It should be. It's a good thread.
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Aw, thanks. But, you're one to talk! You and charulata have all the lurker fans. :)
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Maiden's Voyage: Women of 2016

Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:53 pm

So, I'm reorganizing my 2016 female director list. I've recently seen a few more, and this is the plan: I'll put the top sixteen in the original post, and this post will contain the overflow. Hope this doesn't completely wreck the conversational flow! (If you're looking for Cameraperson, it's now in that original post.)

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Karyn Kusama: The Invitation is a strange little film. I almost couldn't sit through the beginning, as the characters (supposedly old friends) stare awkwardly at each other. Are they first-time actors? No. Maybe it's improv with no character prep? Or, mumblecore with people who aren't just acting stupid? But, as the plot gradually gels, Kusama manages to pull me in with small, ominous touches and some really great, atmospheric flashbacks and music and unbalanced emotion. It's a very slow burn, but with a truly gut-wrenching payoff.

Kelly Fremon Craig: A promising first feature, The Edge of Seventeen updates the teen drama with cell phones, cynicism, and clever casting. Craig gives her protagonist plenty of room to be absolutely insufferable, yet somehow keeps her just sympathetic enough. Besides the extra darkness, there are some surprising turns, but the ending is pure John Hughes (which isn't a bad thing, I suppose).

Laurie Anderson: Heart of a Dog (pictured above) is as gently thoughtful and entertaining as you'd expect from Laurie Anderson. Her scrapbook-style layers of photos (and sound) reminded me of Guy Maddin at times.

Ava DuVernay: 13th—DuVernay’s info-packed documentary about America’s sorry racial history—tears along at an entertaining, even overwhelming pace. It’s stylish and timely, no doubt; I just wish it had been a bit more scrupulous, less willing to risk false impressions to make emotional points. As this year’s other big race documentary* showed, the facts are plenty powerful enough on their own.

*Peck’s I Am Not Your Negro
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Post by Colonel Kurz » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:02 am

Shieldmaiden wrote: Initially, I had a little trouble with Johnson's Cameraperson [pictured above]. She's using footage she shot for other people's movies, which makes it theirs, right? Or, at the least, not fully hers. And, I'm not even talking about copyright, but just in the sense of creation, of (art)work
Does it make it theirs? Who's doing the creating? And doesn't that vary per film? Like, if a director is very hands on and/or has storyboarded everything to a t, sure, but some directors have hardly any visual sense and just give their dp's all the freedom in the world.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:14 pm

Colonel Kurz wrote:Does it make it theirs? Who's doing the creating? And doesn't that vary per film? Like, if a director is very hands on and/or has storyboarded everything to a t, sure, but some directors have hardly any visual sense and just give their dp's all the freedom in the world.
Ah, yes, I can see that. But, what about the ideas that brought them to the location in the first place, the legwork that got them the interviews?

Mostly these are questions I had going in, though, and then the film itself answered them. (It's full of moments where she interacts, or otherwise makes her presence felt.) Have you seen it?
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Post by Beau » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:21 am

I haven't seen Cameraperson, but it sounds like a found footage film with a twist, that is, the found footage this time was filmed by the director. Still, the point of found footage is that while, yes, you didn't produce those images, or in this case, didn't direct them or do the legwork to make them possible, by recontextualizing them you're remaking them, in a sense. At least, that's one point of found footage. I'm sure there are others.
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Beau wrote:I haven't seen Cameraperson, but it sounds like a found footage film with a twist, that is, the found footage this time was filmed by the director.
Oh, yeah, that makes sense! And in this case it's already quite personal to her. Thanks, guys!

I have one more movie to watch for this topic, and then I'll move on. I don't want to be stuck in 2016 forever!
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Re: Maiden's Voyage: Women of 2016

Post by Gort » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:54 pm

Shieldmaiden wrote:
Initially, I had a little trouble with Johnson's Cameraperson [pictured above]. She's using footage she shot for other people's movies, which makes it theirs, right? Or, at the least, not fully hers. And, I'm not even talking about copyright, but just in the sense of creation, of (art)work. Still, it's her experiences, undoubtedly; her eyes we're seeing through; and (almost always?) her voice interacting with the people she's filming. She films horrors and hope, fear and joy, all with a sort of naive aptitude for color and human connection. I enjoyed her trip around the world and, even more, her coming home again.
Found footage. Wouldn't that be footage that was shot by someone else?
Thus, the director wouldn't own the footage in that case, either.
But found footage shot by the person making the film isn't...found...is it? That would
be my conceptual qualm with this film as a found footage work (which I have not seen).
If I am correct that's your major problem with it too. But I cannot quite parse the bolded
sentences above. So I might be misinterpreting your words in some way.
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Post by Macrology » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:22 am

I haven't seen the film yet (though I'm very much interested), but based on what I've heard about it, I'd call it repurposed footage, not found footage. For me, "found footage" evokes something salvaged, usually for collage films (like Bruce Conner's), whereas "repurposed footage" is more like what Orson Welles did in F for Fake with the footage François Reichenbach shot for an unfinished Elmyr de Hory documentary.
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Post by Beau » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:34 pm

My point is that if we accept traditional found footage film as valid - that is, the appropriation and remixing of footage the director had no hand in - then we can certainly accept a cinematographer using footage she filmed for other directors, which might not be entirely hers, legally or artistically or whatever, but which she was certainly involved in.

That said, I'm unsure about the distinction between found and repurposed footage. It's entirely common to talk of F for Fake in terms of found footage. Even the Wikipedia page for found footage includes F for Fake as a reference. Every found footage movie is repurposing that footage, as well as salvaging it. That's the whole idea.
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Post by Gort » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:47 am

And then we can't overlook the confusion of terms that arises because of the fiction genre that calls itself "found footage" although the footage is neither found, nor, in most cases, re-purposed! ;)
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Post by Beau » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:43 am

Gort wrote:And then we can't overlook the confusion of terms that arises because of the fiction genre that calls itself "found footage" although the footage is neither found, nor, in most cases, re-purposed! ;)
In fiction it works pretty similarly, except the footage-finding and re-purposing is contained inside the fiction. In Cloverfield, for example, the video that makes up the movie is certainly "found" and re-purposed as government evidence, but all in the context of the narrative. Something similar happens in The Blair Witch Project.

Still, it's true that the "found footage" in these cases is hardly intervened or played around with (again, within the fiction). It's usually presented as is. They're not picked up and reconfigured by the fictional equivalent of a Peter Tscherkassky.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:23 pm

Thanks for the discussion, everyone. You've convinced me there are plenty of examples of footage being used/re-used with artistic integrity. Hope you all see the film eventually, so my comments will make sense. :P
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:24 pm

One more female director from last year...

I really enjoyed Dear Zindagi. SRK makes an adorable eccentric psychologist, and Alia Bhatt is ridiculously watchable, whether she's throwing a tantrum or falling asleep! Being extremely beautiful helps, of course, haha. The psychology may be a bit movie-simple, but it felt real to me. The process was right. Thought it was fun the way Shinde pays tribute to the musical with story elements (filming a video, boyfriend who's a musician) while sticking to a more indie style. Maybe that's typical? Anyway, I guess I should see English Vinglish now.

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Gort wrote:half-a-million
Hey, I made it!

Now I can die happy, I guess. :P
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Maiden's Voyage: I Am Not Your Negro

Post by Shieldmaiden » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:22 am

In and around my attempts to see everything by women from last year, I've seen a lot of other good stuff, too. I was really impressed with Silence, for example, but it will take a rewatch (or, possibly a novel-reading) to have anything to sensible to say about that one. But, before it's too late, I need to get something down about I Am Not Your Negro. I've talked about James Baldwin in the literature thread; he's one of my favorite people ever. So, it's high praise when I say I sense the same kind of student-fan in Raoul Peck. He's made a (not surprisingly) timely documentary, exposing an unfinished work of Baldwin's to a broader audience, many of whom were probably unaware of his importance. And it's effective! A big part of this is just knowing when to get out of the way. If you have Baldwin's words, you're already ahead. But Peck doesn't stop there, he adds context with some terrific interview footage. Samuel Jackson deserves credit, too; there's no dissonance as we jump between Baldwin's actual voice and the Jackson narration. It's all very well put-together, and I admire Peck's restraint at times when others would be tempted to aim for the rafters. There's no need here. Baldwin is the the most persuasive of persuaders, and the more who hear (and read) him, the better!

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Spengo actually posted a link to an interview he conducted with Peck recently about that, if you're interested.
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I'll finally be seeing that at BAFICI this year. So excited. Love Baldwin.
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Gort wrote:half-a-million
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Now I can die happy, I guess. :P
Hooray!

The happy part, not the dying part. Please don't do that yet. ;)
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Haha, never. Too many movies to see!
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Beau wrote:I'll finally be seeing that at BAFICI this year. So excited. Love Baldwin.
Ooh, that's this week! What are you most excited for?
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Shieldmaiden wrote:Ooh, that's this week! What are you most excited for?
The Baldwin doc for sure. Restored classics like The Cremator and The Son's Room. 2016 movies like The Ornithologist and Certain Women, which never came out here. A Canadian movie with a really long name and an equally long running time that's been making the festival rounds to much acclaim. There are also scores of movies in the International Competition, which I'll be covering, but about which I know little about. We'll see what happens.
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Beau wrote:A Canadian movie with a really long name and an equally long running time that's been making the festival rounds to much acclaim.
I'd never heard of this, but it looks intriguing. Love this poster.
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Post by charulata » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:51 am

Shieldmaiden wrote:
One more female director from last year...

I really enjoyed Dear Zindagi. SRK makes an adorable eccentric psychologist, and Alia Bhatt is ridiculously watchable, whether she's throwing a tantrum or falling asleep! Being extremely beautiful helps, of course, haha. The psychology may be a bit movie-simple, but it felt real to me. The process was right. Thought it was fun the way Shinde pays tribute to the musical with story elements (filming a video, boyfriend who's a musician) while sticking to a more indie style. Maybe that's typical? Anyway, I guess I should see English Vinglish now.
i've been afraid to see this one coz alia really has never worked for me on screen outside of Highway. She's pretty great in Udta Punjab but then i see kareena and diljit as the real heart of that film but maybe it's just because i'm old :oops: .. but definitely into anything shinde is doing and i should just watch this given your reaction to it. i kinda love this phase of srk's career too ..
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:57 am

charulata wrote:i've been afraid to see this one coz alia really has never worked for me on screen outside of Highway.
Yeah, I think you should give it a try. Her character is a little obnoxious, but that's the point. By the end I liked her! Oh, and I have Highway here to watch. :D

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Maiden's Voyage: Pierrot le fou

Post by Shieldmaiden » Mon May 08, 2017 5:06 am

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  • So, I finally watched Pierrot le fou. I have to say it's a perfect example of its genre, the manic-pixie metafiction-slapstick romance-caper (haha). And, at first I was entranced by its energy and color and music. I saw echoes (reverse echoes?) of Fassbinder (above), and felt like I'd discovered the long lost first-half of My Nights Are More Beautiful Than Your Days (below). But, while it’s fun to see a film which has so directly influenced my favorites (and Pierrot is highly entertaining aside from that), my initial enthusiasm waned. The craziness began to seem forced, the love fake. Of course, it’s supposed to. Underneath the romantic music and sunshine, Godard's characters are delusional and treacherous; his interest appears to be anarchy, not love. So, it became clear as I watched that My Nights is no continuation or sequel, but a complete re-write – with enthusiasm instead of apathy, anger instead of anarchy, and, despite the ending, love instead of death. Everything in Zulawski's film, no matter how distancing on the surface, serves the doomed romance. Godard, on the other hand, aligns all the postmodern tricks in opposition to characterization and (pfft!) emotional weight. If My Nights is Angry Optimism, Pierrot is Whimsical Despair.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage: Pierrot le fou

Post by Gort » Thu May 11, 2017 12:56 am

Shieldmaiden wrote:Pierrot le fou. My Nights Are More Beautiful Than Your Days.
Hmmm. Would seemingly make a decent private NQRR comparison. There will likely never be a Round Five of the Rematches. But I find these things all the time. Especially the not-quite-a-remake types. If I could think of a way to monetize it, I could make a living with Remake Rematches. :D
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Re: Maiden's Voyage: Pierrot le fou

Post by YouTookMyName » Thu May 11, 2017 12:59 am

Gort wrote:I could make a living with Remake Rematches.
Such hubris. Dude, you're the only one who thinks you could do that. And, in case you forgot, it's my thread.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Macrology » Mon May 15, 2017 8:30 am

I watched American Honey based on your enthusiasm for it.

I liked it immensely: the adoration of detail, the mag crew ensemble (whose rituals make them into a kind of tribe), the delicate balancing act of tone and expectation, the meandering immediacy of it all. Arnold has a knack for giving scenes a veneer of mystery, an almost mystical quality, without them ever feeling unrealistic. It trails off vaguely near the end, and the occasional concession it makes to plot or sensationalism didn't sit well with me, but those complaints pale under the pulsing, rhythmic beauty of the film.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue May 16, 2017 7:13 am

Macrology wrote:Arnold has a knack for giving scenes a veneer of mystery, an almost mystical quality, without them ever feeling unrealistic.
Yes! I'm so glad you liked it! And, yeah, the rhythm is so much of what I love in this.

By plot and sensationalism do you mean
the guy in the pick-up? the kids with the drug-addled mother?
I guess I thought there was so much danger hanging over them the whole time, that these things almost had to make an appearance. A Chekhov's gun thing, sort of. But, not too much. Too much I couldn't take. :(
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Post by Macrology » Tue May 16, 2017 8:29 am

No, those didn't bother me; I thought they were handled well. I meant
Shia coming in with his gun and trainwrecking the genuinely compelling mezcal scene because Arnold presumably couldn't write her way out of it. That was the worst offender, but there was smaller stuff throughout, like the drama of the love triangle. I wasn't a huge fan of the "Harmony Korine Brand Poverty" rip-off that opens the film, either, but I didn't mind that as much because it almost feels like she sets that up to deliberately undermine it with what follows.
The drama in the film sometimes slipped into histrionics, especially between the two leads. Arnold handles dramatic moments really deftly elsewhere, like the guy in the pickup truck. In spite of strong performances from Sasha Lane and Shia LaBeouf, I was more interested in the ensemble, which Arnold observes with more restraint and care.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Eminence Grise » Tue May 16, 2017 3:05 pm

Macrology wrote:No, those didn't bother me; I thought they were handled well. I meant
Shia coming in with his gun and trainwrecking the genuinely compelling mezcal scene because Arnold presumably couldn't write her way out of it. That was the worst offender, but there was smaller stuff throughout, like the drama of the love triangle. I wasn't a huge fan of the "Harmony Korine Brand Poverty" rip-off that opens the film, either, but I didn't mind that as much because it almost feels like she sets that up to deliberately undermine it with what follows.
The drama in the film sometimes slipped into histrionics, especially between the two leads. Arnold handles dramatic moments really deftly elsewhere, like the guy in the pickup truck. In spite of strong performances from Sasha Lane and Shia LaBeouf, I was more interested in the ensemble, which Arnold observes with more restraint and care.
I agree with the critiques; however, I think the love triangle helps to illustrate her naiveté and ultimately, helps her grow and pushes us more and more to accept the final scene in the film as legitimate and empowering.
However, as you said, the scenes were bombastic and at times overblown, but I think it's warranted given the context of the film which remains contextually extreme throughout.
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Post by Beau » Tue May 16, 2017 11:45 pm

I didn't really have a problem with any of those things. They didn't even occur to me as potential problems.
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Post by Beau » Tue May 16, 2017 11:54 pm

I can't say I wanted even more ensemble action from American Honey. There's more than enough of that, frankly. Minutes upon minutes of the camera wandering inside various cars while we listen to random chitchat. I didn't mind breaking that up with more focused verbal volleys between the leads. Also, the abrupt end to the mezcal scene played out fine to me. It underscores his possessiveness and how difficult she finds it to escape the closed circle of her newfound friends. I didn't really miss those cowboys once they fulfilled their ancillary purpose. As for the histrionics, well, I mean, the whole film is filtered through the same heightened lens. That pickup truck scene is unusually quiet. Most of the other interactions lean towards loud, brash, lewd, and aggressive.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Gort » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:47 am

Maiden, I remain fascinated by the lurker visits to this website. I wrote down these statistics for page views in your thread:
10-27 594844
11-01 596042
11-02 596409

Which means that the Voyage is still clocking eyes even after all your graphics have vanished. There have been 1,565 page views since the 27th. That averages to about 261 page views per day!
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Stu » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:34 pm

Now if only some of those lurkers would start posting here, too...
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