Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by B-Side » Wed May 01, 2013 7:27 am

I'd have no problem uploading/hosting the film for whomever. I just wanna know what Maiden's limitations are. If she's downloaded from one of us before, then it would seem I'd be free to choose whatever.
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed May 01, 2013 11:46 am

B-Side wrote:If she's downloaded from one of us before, then it would seem I'd be free to choose whatever.
Yes. Dropbox would be perfect, but, seriously, don't worry about me. I'll get it somehow, I promise. :)
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by B-Side » Wed May 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Shieldmaiden wrote:Yes. Dropbox would be perfect, but, seriously, don't worry about me. I'll get it somehow, I promise. :)
I figured as much. I've already got a list I'm gonna float by you guys to get a sense of what you would rather see so as to maximize participation.
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by Trip » Wed May 01, 2013 10:05 pm

Finally put Malina onto my hard drive so I'll watch it soo-oh, you've moved on.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed May 01, 2013 10:31 pm

Please watch it! I want to talk about it. And the next thread's not even up yet.
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by JediMoonShyne » Fri May 03, 2013 3:10 pm

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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by B-Side » Fri May 03, 2013 3:15 pm

Alright, here are the options I've chosen. I'm going to bed right now, so I don't have time to find the KG or IMDb links to each one of these, but here they are (asterisk indicates special interest from me):

The Road (Serif Gören/Yilmaz Güney, 1982)
Bad Luck (Andrzej Munk, 1960)
Snow (Aida Begic, 2008)
Dry Season (Mahamat-Saleh Haroun, 2006)*
Restless Blood (Teuvo Tulio, 1946)
27 Down (Awtar Krishna Kaul, 1973)
The Land (Youssef Chahine, 1969)*
Daughter in Law (Hodzhakuli Narliev, 1972)*
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Post by wigwam » Fri May 03, 2013 3:35 pm

awesome, bry! here's imdb links and basic availability

The Road (Serif Gören/Yilmaz Güney, 1982) | Yol | IMDB on KG
Bad Luck (Andrzej Munk, 1960) | Zezowate szczescie | IMDB on KG, NFdisc
Snow (Aida Begic, 2008) | Snijeg | IMDB on KG
Dry Season (Mahamat-Saleh Haroun, 2006)* | Daratt | IMDB on KG, NFdisc
Restless Blood (Teuvo Tulio, 1946) | Levoton veri | IMDB on KG
27 Down (Awtar Krishna Kaul, 1973) | 27 Down | IMDB on KG
The Land (Youssef Chahine, 1969)* | Al-ard | IMDB on KG
Daughter in Law (Hodzhakuli Narliev, 1972)* | Nevestka on KG

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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by snapper » Fri May 03, 2013 8:37 pm

I've been meaning to watch Yol so I'm up for that

Haven't seen any of the others either although I've seen films by Chahine and Munk before
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Post by Trip » Fri May 03, 2013 8:44 pm

seen yol, boring
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by Bandy Greensacks » Fri May 03, 2013 9:04 pm

Dry Season and Bad Luck interest me, and I already have Yol on my HD.
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by B-Side » Mon May 06, 2013 7:21 am

Sorry I didn't get around to this last night. I'll have it up soon. Maybe we can make it a Sunday to Sunday thing? Or, well, Monday to Monday? I'd like to hear anyone else's favored film to watch if they have a preference. Since this is about trying to get as many people to participate as possible, I don't want to pick only something I'm really interested in.
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by snapper » Mon May 06, 2013 7:37 am

Just choose something
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* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Post by Trip » Mon May 06, 2013 7:41 am

None of them are canon/popular, so I'm out.
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by snapper » Mon May 06, 2013 7:47 am

Bry hurry up, goddamnit
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by snapper » Fri May 05, 2017 10:36 am

Four years later, I'm watching the three Corrie Class Trip films I failed to see at the time. This was one of them, and honestly I hated it - I've seen The Death of Maria Malibran, too, and I didn't like its high-style drag baroque either, but if I had hopes that they'd be more bearable when married to a functioning narrative as opposed to a more experimental set of visual tableaux I was wrong. I know this is some people's idea of a nice aesthetic but I just found it grating, and it's worsened by the pointless chaos of the story, which wants to be Zulawski but isn't. The male leads are duds, the Euro-ness fucking trite (honestly, who writes most of these French movies of this vein) and whew, this might be the only bad Huppert performance I've seen - this kind of balls-to-the-wall melodrama is not what she's suited for at all, forcing her to eschew detail to focus on emotional sound and fury which clashes with her character-focused approach and honestly makes her seem increasingly amateur as the drama gets higher- and higher-pitched. Not my thing, but no one can say Schroeter doesn't try to make things interesting (he just fails at it) so he gets a point for effort.
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by Colonel Kurz » Fri May 05, 2017 11:36 am

snapper wrote:the Euro-ness fucking trite (honestly, who writes most of these French movies of this vein)
What does that even mean?
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by snapper » Fri May 05, 2017 11:56 am

I mean French philosophical film where characters say things like "the door is open, yet I can't pass through it" after pacing around a room in carefully choreographed formations over 5 minutes of long take, characters crying for no reason, small children popping around corners in dark houses holding balloons and shit metaphorically etc
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Post by snapper » Fri May 05, 2017 11:56 am

you know,, when a film is "Arty "
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun May 07, 2017 11:34 pm

snapper wrote:I mean French philosophical film where characters say things like "the door is open, yet I can't pass through it" after pacing around a room in carefully choreographed formations over 5 minutes of long take, characters crying for no reason, small children popping around corners in dark houses holding balloons and shit metaphorically etc
Haha. But, where your hypothetical film is using philosophy and psychology, Malina is more like philosophy/psychology using film. It helps that I feel that Schroeter is terribly intelligent (I'm tantalized by the ideas, but don't understand them) and also that the images are rich and thought-provoking (not just baffling or pretentious).

But, I really came in here to say that you've reminded me how much I loved this "class trip" series. Sure, we (I) picked badly at times, but it was a great way to see new things and provoke discussion.

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Post by snapper » Tue May 09, 2017 8:55 pm

Thank you! Yeah I miss it too. I'd be interested in doing another round but I don't know if there's enough traffic here these days to make it a goer.
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Tue May 09, 2017 9:00 pm

Don't know how many people are needed for a class trip but if it matters any I'd be down. (mostly 'cause I haven't heard of a lot of these directors)
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed May 10, 2017 1:12 am

I'd totally do this if we can stir up some interest. I even have a film that might be good!
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by snapper » Wed May 10, 2017 8:38 pm

I've got a viewing project planned out through July but if there are enough posters supporting the idea a bit later in the year I'm totally down! We've all surely seen so much in the past four years I'm sure the choices will be verrry esoteric haha
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Post by wigwam » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:35 pm

hi longtime lurker here, how bout Sat 8/5/17 for the new class trip series?

snapper, will your project be done by then and can you pick the movie? (loved your response to Malina, disagree with everything you said but laughed in complete understanding of your perspective and peeves :heart: )

also in re-reading these threads, it may be beneficial to have a running "scheduling/coordinating/in-out-late" thread for non-discussion and then a thread wholly abt discussion on each movie maybe?
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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by snapper » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:06 pm

Hey wig, I'd be up for that but maybe a week later in August? I'm hoping to get 20 done by the end of this month and then will only have 6 movies left in my project before I'm free to watch whatever.
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Post by wigwam » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:44 am

ok cool so Sat 8/12/17
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Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:20 pm

wigwam wrote:ok cool so Sat 8/12/17
sounds good, I'll try to make it as well.
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Post by snapper » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:44 pm

Gotcha! You'll choose the first round, wig?
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Post by wigwam » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:30 pm

me?!?!? I have straight up garbage in all my watchlists and was hoping for some tony international arthouse someone else has been keeping up with

do you have anything you've been wanting to get to that your project has kept you from? or does anyone else have anything? Sr Montalvado?

if not I'll scroll through my harddrive but I'm pretty sure it's all nonsense, I want something snooty af
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Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:56 pm

I mean, I can always make a recommendation if you want but I don't know if the stuff I'm familiar with is really all that out-of-left-field.

I too was hoping y'all would bring the snootiness.
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Post by wigwam » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:26 pm

I'm going to Speed Racer on the big screen that morning? You got anything snootier than that?
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Post by snapper » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:47 pm

hmm, the point of the project is to choose something that we'd expect few if any corrie members to have seen already, preferably by a director whose work we're unlikely to have touched, so... let me think.

here's some ideas, just from what i have on hand on my computer HD. havent checked to see if there's subs for them but there probably are:

Nostalgia for the Countryside (1995 - Đặng Nhật Minh)
Mossane (1996 - Safi Faye)
La merveilleuse vie de Jeanne d'Arc (1929 - Marco de Gastyne)
Dragon's Return (1968 - Eduard Grecner)
La maternelle (1933 - Marie Epstein & Jean-Benoît Lévy)

and one i'm excited for but haven't downloaded yet and can probably grab from Avistaz -

Japanese Girls Never Die (2016 - Daigo Matsui)


Faye is probably the best known name here, though I haven't seen any of her films yet. Any other recommendations, hit me! (though I'm out of bonus on KG and the NZ seed-priority thing is still an issue so someone will either have to load me up or dropbox their selection)
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Post by wigwam » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:13 am

let's do La maternelle - Oxnard, will that work?
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Post by Oxnard Montalvo » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:36 am

yeah that will work but I'll need help finding it (I'm not very well-traveled in those corners on the 'Net)
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Post by wigwam » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:44 pm

dont worry, we'll corrupt you

I'll make a thread later when I'm not on my phone
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Post by snapper » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:42 pm

Yeah works for me (though I could always use some bonus... hint)
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Re: Class Trip #8: Malina (1991, Schroeter)

Post by wigwam » Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:38 am

i dont think i can give ratio anymore, im like this:

Share ratio 0.643 :-/


gonna make a thread
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