The Thread continues to grow slowly as I add more essays and technical posts and develop the promised Rematches. Post updated 10 August 2012
August 10, 2012. Well, at times it seemed impossible. But the first eight are done, plus the 3:10 to Yuma
Weematch thrown in for a diversion in May 2012. Now I decide which pairs of films to compare as I move forward. But...I completed what I set out to do.
July 25, 2012 is the day I finished the next-to-last Rematch of the original eight. i have only The Maltese Falcon
left to go, and then i'll be free to select new Rematches to pursue. What a hobby! Frankly, I've been looking forward to TMF all along, perhaps with more energy than the rest combined, but I must have been saving the best (and most complicated) for last, or something.
July 14, 2012 is the day when I resumed posting essays in this thread. On June 23 I completed the Dorian Gray
Rematch. The Nosferatu
Rematch had been completed at the end of May (the 31st, actually). As I finished each of those Rematches I didn't post in this block because I was preparing for a trip to Turkey. That trip has ended, and despite thinking that I wasn't experiencing jet lag from the return trip (I had none going east) I think I am. So I'm using the sleep-distortion to put up a post or two at the Corrie!
May 10, 2012 marks the completion date for the Rematch pairing the Planet of the Apes
films. Four left to complete that I began last year, so I'll start considering future Rematch candidates, and I won't get more than two going at a time!
May 01, 2012: The Yuma Weematch is finished! I have these still in progress, though:The Maltese Falcon
still needs Script, DP and Weblinks tech posts, plus 10 planned essays.The Day the Earth Stood Still
still needs the Weblinks tech post, plus 7 planned essays.Nosferatu
still needs the Weblinks tech post, plus 7 planned essays.Dorian Gray
lacks 9 planned essays.Planet of the Apes
needs the Weblinks tech post, and 5 planned essays.
Haven't made any posts in any of these since April 13, 2012. But I'm probably going to take a little break of a few days before barreling ahead with Planet of the Apes
. It would be nice to complete another one! The one I most want to resume is The Maltese Falcon
April 24, 2012: I'm forging ahead on the Remake Weematch for the Western. I posted the review of the '57 movie
just now. I have the 2007 film loaded in the BRD player for a third viewing, but I might scratch that for today. I have time to watch it sometime later and finish the review. Most of the Yuma essays are done except for graphics and additional editing touch-up. And I have four tech posts to build. I'm hoping to finish this soon, and feel like I've accomplished something by doing so, then I'll return to the remaining year-old Rematches and forge ahead on them.
April 13, 2012: I got the 3:10 to Yuma
Weematch started and yesterday I posted source links for acquisition. Today I added another Dorian Gray
essay. I have the essays for Yuma
already written, but haven't pulled a single still from either of the Westerns. At least this weekend won't be completely Rematchless!
An exchange with Mr Carmady in another thread made me realize that I've been selecting films I've seen, and usually pairs with one film that I really like for Remake Rematches. Mr Carmady suggested 3:10 to Yuma
, since he's seen both the 1957 original
and the 2007 remake
. I really don't have a hankering to see either film, but I decided that it would be an interesting experiment to do a Rematch totally cold. What if I like one? What if I like neither? What if I like both? And I've ordered the DVDs and a book with the original short story to try it out to see if it's Rematch worthy. Thanks to Mr Carmady for the idea. UPDATE: On April 2, 2012, I picked up both DVDs and the short story collection that has the original story. I read the story today, and will watch the films as soon as I can.
After I got all the technical topics posted for Dorian Gray
it seemed right to throw in an essay before heading off to work on tech posts for the other Rematches. So, it was done.
Impatience. That's what I'm feeling about all this. So to try to get something
done that will look like more is going on that really is, I've decided to complete the technical posts for the five in-progress rematches before tackling the remaining essays. Mainly because doing the essays for The Maltese Falcon
will require re-reading the novel, and watching all three movies again! Oh, joy. And I'm busy reading Dracula
while I'm at it. And need to read Planet of the Apes
again oh why did I decide to compare the movies to their source material!!?!??!!? Because It's a good Idea. That's why.
I just watched one of the Remake Rematches at Screened.com. Blessed with a bigger budget (or should I simply say "Blessed with a budget"?) and a host that waves his hands when he talks to an ever greater extent than I do, their video
-based rematches are pretty cool. At least the one I watched (Wille Wonka
. Also, theirs lasts about 10 minutes, and then you're done.
I doubt that anyone ever reads this evolving post, but in order to move some of the Rematches along, I'm concentrating on tech posts, such as Director of Photography and the like. It gives me a chance to complete a post in an hour or so, and get it in the thread, to keep up both my interest and that of my readers. Lately I've gotten DP information up for Apes and TDtESS.
After heavy work and a viral infection of some sort, I finally got a chance to post the Producer information for the Falcon films, and an essay on pacing for Nosferatu
on the 24th of February. I intended to work in something for three other Rematches, but this morning I wanted to post about Nosferatu
again. So I got the costumes essay in the thread.
There is a large backlog of essays that are finished except for graphics. I noticed as i looked over the original three Rematches that many of the essays are much shorter than what I'm producing these days. I've gotten too verbose, I guess. No, there's no guessing about it. For some reason I have too much to say, and I add it whenever I proof-read the completed essays.
In order to "get something posted quickly" I decided to select "The Eqyptian Cat" to finish on Sunday, February 5th. What a miscalculation! It took me five hours to decide on the frame grabs to use. There is less text than usual, and the frame grabs are simply presented full-frame, but reduced so that three can fit side by side for 1945 or two for 2009. But picking them out, and reducing them all to 183 pixels height, then pasting in effects for a nifty drop shadow...that took a while. But I think the result was worth the time. It even required me to load the DVD and pull some additional frames with VLC in order to show the moment of transfer in the 2009 version of the movie.
Although my general impression remains that the 1945 movie is too reserved for Wilde's story on the screen, as I work on more essays I am developing a fine appreciation for the artistry of the film. Listening to the commentary by Steve Haberman and Angela Lansbury has helped me understand some theoretical background for the movie that alters my understanding of certain aspects. It has also confirmed my suspicion that Hurd Hatfield was under the spell of Director Albert Lewin when he played Dorian in such a boring, low-key way. In fact, Lansbury says in the commentary that it annoyed Hatfield to no end that he could not move his face during the takes without Lewin hollering, "Cut!" and making him do it over...without changing expression.
Another essay for The Day the Earth Stood Still
was posted on the 28th of January. This one compares the representation of Helen Benson and her son or stepson in the two movies. I also compiled some quotations for four all five Rematches on the 28th. Both Dorian Gray
reviews went up on the thread January 14, 2012. On January 25th I managed to post a Nosferatu
essay. Even getting everything finished for the first eight comparisons is going to take more than the year I estimated at first. Below are ramblings over the past year:
The first Nosferatu
essay went up on November 24, 2011. Thanksgiving Day in the US. On the 25th a couple hours' work got the Planet of the Apes
essay graphics done, and I was able to post the 10 new placeholders in the broker post. I got a bit more posted on Christmas Eve last year.
As for the comparison of the two Planet of the Apes
films, both film review posts are now in place. I continue working on links and other reviews along with essays for that pairing. Three essays are in place as of January 11, 2012.
The Remake Three
match for The Maltese Falcon
is going again. I have viewed and grabbed hundreds of stills from the three versions of The Maltese Falcon
: 1931, 1936, and 1941. In this case they didn't start off with the best version. It's the second remake that is considered the finest, and that has become famous. It made Humphrey Bogart a star actor, and John Huston a star director. I have three essays about the the films, as well as the reviews of the 1931, 1936 and the famous 1941 movies up in the thread, now. I'm going to have to rewatch all three Maltese Falcon
flicks so that I can complete the series of mini-essays comparing the characters and the actors who play them across the trio of movies. I watched the 1941 film on the New Year's break.
The essay broker posts for The Maltese Falcon
and Planet of the Apes
exist already. I have been writing essays all along, but, other than one Maltese essay, I hadn't had the time to create graphic blocks and thumbnails to get them in the thread. On November 5th I was able to create the graphics for all the planned Falcon essays, and got three essays posted on that day. Then I decided that I had put enough new material in the thread for one day (no comments as of this writing) and could return to working behind the scenes. Frankly, my vision for the Maltese Falcon
Rematch was rather ambitious, so it's taking a while.
The review of the 1951 original of The Day the Earth Stood Still
was posted May 30, 2011, a long time ago. I finally got my love poem (ha!) to the 2008 remake into the thread on August 04, 2011. I have reviewed both 1979 Herzog remakes of Nosferatu
(one performed in English, the other performed in German). The reviews are up. I am working on Nosferatu
essays and graphic blocks.
I have the Dorian Gray
frame grabs done, and I posted the first essay on November 23, 2011. Back in October I posted three technical blocks for those two films. I have several other essays complete, but not posted, and I've got both film reviews underway (they were finally posted on 1-14-2012).
I have looked through my thread content for each film in order to determine what graphic headers and blocks I'll need for each one, and I'm starting to work on those. I've laid out what essays I intend for each of the remaining films to guide me in development. I have also pulled a lot of links to use for the technical posts for The Day the Earth Stood Still
, The Maltese Falcon
and Dorian Gray
. As I wrote above, some tech posts are in place, and I plan to sort of keep up with them, even though as posts they are dull for uninterested readers.
I had originally intended to reread the source material for each of the rematches. Actually, the only one I haven't already read is Dracula
, by Bram Stoker. I'd like to be able to write about each film as a treatment of the source material, as I did with the original three Rematches in 2008. But, that just adds reading a novel or two to the workload for this thread! Ha ha.
It has been so long since I watched some of these films that my memory of them is fading. I suppose I need to engineer a few re-watches. I found a source through Amazon for the 3-film set of The Maltese Falcon
, and as the price had risen by $1.50 since the last time I checked, I ordered it on Thanksgiving. While I was at it I ordered the KINO Nosferatu
, and Herzog's films, plus the two Dorian Gray
movies. Now I can watch segments of each film in the Rematches in order to keep them fresh in my mind as I proceed. I think that's worth about $65.00.
I have completed the posts for links to places where you can buy or watch each of the films on DVD, Blu-ray and Netflix Watch Instantly. If you have a Netflix account, and are logged into Netflix when you click a link to one of their pages, you will see the queue page for the film. If you don't have an account, or are not logged into Netflix at the time, you will see the information panel on the sign-up page at Netflix. As of 12 November 2011.
The three original Rematches are complete! (I might have further ideas in the future, and if so I'll throw them into the mix.)
Thanks to those who read, and also to those who occasionally let me know that they've been reading. That encouragement is helpful, but I am determined to do this more or less as a hobby...in much the same way that Clyde Parke spent decades creating a mechanized model of a circus that is now at the Pink Palace Museum
in Memphis, TN. He did it for his own amusement, more than for me to stand and marvel while I watched it operate.
Now that the thread is well-underway, to see the first unread post, click on the small circle to the left of the Thread Name in the forum page
This icon will take you to the first post that you haven't read...which might be comments from other posters, any new YTMN posts in the thread, and so forth.
How this works (I hope).
Basically, I will be treating the Remake Rematch thread as if it were a self-contained website with various articles about films and their remakes, if that makes any sense. Now that the IP's for the seven Rematches are up it may be clearer why I'm doing it this [/i]way...or perhaps it's only seeming foggier by now!
Navigation buttons for each Rematch
The buttons beneath each of the "second" posts will link to different posts within this thread, although the categories will be the same from Rematch to Rematch. (I assume you got that already, but just in case you didn't...) For example, the Essays link for each Rematch initial post will take you to a third post where you'll see thumbnails for various comparisons between a specific pair of films. And those thumbnails will link to other posts where the actual content information is found! Sounds more complicated than it will actually be.
At first, the buttons for each Rematch initial post will be shadowed, but as each becomes live it will have a colorful tile on it. One of these is showing a live link (although the example button isn't linked to anything but this post):
That way, a new reader, or someone who hasn't read, say the Nosferatu
comparison in a while, can find the second post, see what links have been updated (until there are links each button will be "dead" with only the regular arrow if you mouse-over it), and follow them to whatever he/she wants to read. Within the Essays post for each new Remake Rematch, the various thumbnails to the planned essays will go up before they are live. It won't exactly be the ordinary straight through thread, nor will I be able to put up all the information quickly. Comment posts will intervene, no matter how I try to prevent it, so I thought hyperlinks that could "tie together" the various posts for one comparison of a pair of films, would be the best way to navigate.
Let's say you're following the posts that go up in the Remake Rematch for Lord of the Flies
. You haven't been in the thread for ten days, and YTMN has put up some new material.
You go to the OP for the thread, find the banner for Lord of the Flies
, click on it, and are taken to the LotF "Initial Post."
Of course the entire button field shown above will appear below it. You are interested in essays directly comparing the two films, so you click the Essays button
which takes you to another on-going post featuring the various topics covered by comparisons. You look at the links, and discover two new links for
Being interested in this new information, you click a thumbnail, and are taken to the post comparing certain aspects of both films. (Yeah, those links are back to this post. Sorry.)
When you are done reading you'll have the choice to return to the Essays post, to the IP for the Rematch, or to the OP for the thread by clicking on one of three linked graphics:
Go back using these buttons.Advantage to the reader:
You don't have to hunt through the thread trying to find the new posts for a particular Rematch. And you can skip whatever you want to, reading only what you find interesting.Advantage to YTMN:
I don't have to confine myself to posts for a single Remake Rematch until I am finished, but can work on several at once, updating as I finish sections. (And you can still easily find the new ones)Disadvantage to the reader:
The thread won't have much linear coherence. Content posts will be interspersed with comments by readers, and...oh, wait, that's just a regular thread, after all.Disadvantage to YTMN:
Lots of graphics to build, and lots of links to set.
I hope you enjoy reading. If not, I'll at least enjoy posting.