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Post by Ace » Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:45 am

Oaktown wrote: I can't answer your first question, but Hanna probably came out after this thread started so I doubt it was even in contention. This has been going on pretty much all year.
It could be on Trip's part of the list. :shifty:
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Post by Trip » Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:49 am

I will admit I had a free space for an entry, but I've filled it with something much better than the Hanna take, which was certainly after we'd formed our lists.

I like all the eyes in that Hanna take, of cronies peeping around walls, and the eyes in posters and whatnot. It's all very self-conscious.
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Post by Gort » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:46 am

Immaculate wrote:Looked aqueous, at least to me.
Aqueous would explain it. Drops of water would move much like ants. And with the camera moving past them and compression artifacts, coupled with my unwillingness to crank up NoScript permissions for vimeo in order to go back and watch it again, "aqueous" is a good explanation. The body is near a river. And my eye was obviously more drawn to the body than to small things moving at the periphery.
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Post by Colonel Kurz » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:22 pm

Love it, particularly that zoom on her at the end.
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Totes m'gotes downloading that now. Wow.
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Post by Gort » Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:28 pm

They must have spent quite a bit rigging a car so that the camera could be on a stable but flexible support in the back, behind the seat. I'd like to know how they did that...was it actually a modified panel truck? A modified station wagon? Pretty cool from a technical point of view for 1950. It had to be a practical technique in that time. I wonder which take number got used.

EDIT: Hmm. "Deadly Is the Female (original title)"

EDIT EDIT: Slipped it into my NetQwixterflix DVD queue.
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Yeah, that shot is damn good.
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Gort wrote:They must have spent quite a bit rigging a car so that the camera could be on a stable but flexible support in the back, behind the seat. I'd like to know how they did that...was it actually a modified panel truck? A modified station wagon? Pretty cool from a technical point of view for 1950. It had to be a practical technique in that time. I wonder which take number got used.
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Also, according to Mark Cousins' documentary, it was so realistic that people on the street location where it was filmed actually yelled out, "They're robbing a bank!"
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JediMoonShyne wrote: From America's Film Legacy: The Authoritative Guide to the Landmark Movies in the National Film Registry -

"The most fascinating elements of Gun Crazy today are its two "real-time" robberies, shot on location, with live sound, the first done in one take. Lewis went to great lengths to achieve these scenes, filming a test of the first robbery on 16mm to prove to his cinematographer Russell Harlan that it could be done. Harlan and his crew removed the back from a stretch Cadillac to fit in a 35mm camera, mounted on a greased board so that it could pull up to the side window when Cummins steps out of the car."

Also, according to Mark Cousins' documentary, it was so realistic that people on the street location where it was filmed actually yelled, "They're robbing a bank!"
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Post by MrCarmady » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:53 pm

I didn't really like the film all that much when I watched it, but something tells me it'd make a cool date movie. The shot is fantastic.
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Post by Hank » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:32 pm

Wonderful shot, haven't seen that film. It is now on my list to see though.
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Post by dreiser » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:56 pm

Gun Crazy<3.
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Yes!
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Post by ZombieHeston » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:06 am

Love it. I just saw this movie last week and thought about suggesting it, but I couldn't remember how long the take was (so I figured it would have been passed over already). Glad to see I was wrong.
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Post by Oaktown » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:43 am

Its already been said quite a lot ^, but I have to agree that Gun Crazy and that shot are both amazing.
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The dislocated souls of Hong Sang-soo's films, which appear always to bounce off one another with an estranged urban shrug rather than collide or even combine in some positive way, are a feature of contemporary Eastern cinema and the work of directors such as Hong (Korea), Zhang Ke Jia (China) and Tsai Ming-liang (Taiwan). These oppressed beings are presented as the direct result of a rapidly modernised, desensitised and ultimately unhappy society, and as such suicide is a theme that crops up time and again. Tellingly, however, and as can be seen in the following two examples, it is a subject often breached in a comedic manner rather than a serious one. In this scene from Tsai's Vive L'Amour, for example, we look on with no small amount of ridicule as Hsiao-kang enters the apartment to which he has stolen the key and attempts to slash his wrists with a pen-knife. We smirk, because it seems evident that the young man has no intention to carry out this act, but rather wishes merely to suggest a dramatic gesture that might make his life a little more exciting. In The Power of Kangwon Province, the attempted suicide is even more ridiculous: the pitiful pen-knife is replaced with an impromptu vault over and hang from the railings of a balcony, followed by an awkward clamber back into the room.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:17 am

Interesting choice. I wouldn't have gone there for Hong.
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Oh, so we did include a Hong? Will watch it in a bit.
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Epistemophobia wrote:Interesting choice. I wouldn't have gone there for Hong.
It allowed me to mention the Tsai scene, which I love.

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Oaktown wrote:Its already been said quite a lot ^, but I have to agree that Gun Crazy and that shot are both amazing.
Watching the shot made me want to see Gun Crazy, so I queued it up. But it also made me wonder where I could find a source of edgy films from the 40s through the 60s. Edgy for the time. And some would still be edgy even now, I'll bet.

Anybody have an idea?

(The suggestions for "similar films" that Netflix made when I selected it, are all much newer films than Gun Crazy.)
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Gort wrote:Anybody have an idea?
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Not thrillerly, but Cassavetes' Shadows.
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And I'll mention Fleischer's The Narrow Margin, just because it rocks.
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God, The Narrow Margin. Mmm.

I'd also look at anything by Preminger, some of Kazan's stuff (Baby Doll in particular), and Kiss Me Deadly.
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Trip wrote: Anything Fuller: Forty Guns, Shock Corridor, Park Row, The Steel Helmet, The Crimson Kimono, Underworld USA, perhaps especially The Naked Kiss.
Ulmer's Detour.
Robert Wise' The Set-Up.
Polonsky's Force of Evil.
Bunuel's The Young One.
Dearden's Victim, maybe.
Cyril Endfield's The Sound of Fury.
Losey's The Prowler.
Not thrillerly, but Cassavetes' Shadows.
Pasolini's Accattone.
Ray's Johnny Guitar and They Live By Night (earliest helicopter shot?).
Masumura's Kisses.
Visconti's Ossessione.
Chabrol's Les Bonne Femmes.
Welles' Mr. Arkadin.
Hustons' The Asphalt Jungle I guess.
Wilder's Ace in the Hole.
And I'll mention Fleischer's The Narrow Margin, just because it rocks.
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I need to see more of Hong. I have only seen his two Woman films.
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Post by ribbon » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:28 am

Almost rented The Narrow Margin like seven times when we frequented the amazing rental place around here. Should've, like, instead of all that Ass-Tear & Rodgers dogshit.

Want to see a great deal, though.
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There's more in it. Go watch it and press stop before the final shootout, cause that's when the greatness ends.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:00 pm

Some shots feel like they go on forever (in a good way), but are barely a few minutes.
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Ugh, words.
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Words!
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Word.
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Post by Colonel Kurz » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:42 pm

What is this, a Neil Young song?
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How can I get more people to watch Crimson Gold....

Oh, it's the Iranian Taxi Driver!
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Trip wrote: Oh, it's the Iranian Taxi Driver!
Was going to watch this...

But now kinda not.
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:45 am

It's really not.

But yeah, The Circle is probably better.
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It is significantly similar.
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:39 am

Can I get a "next page", please?
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Post by Trip » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:42 am

Why, what happens there?

And don't say a lot of waiting for my four entries after your next one, because I AM AWARE.
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:44 am

Trip wrote:Why, what happens there?

And don't say a lot of waiting for my four entries after your next one, because I AM AWARE.
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Post by Fist » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:27 pm

I've only seen The Mirror from Panahi. Was just OK.
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Re: Eighty Eight Takes

Post by Trip » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:33 pm

Magic Fister wrote:I've only seen The Mirror from Panahi. Was just OK.
That's the one I haven't seen. Also his earlier stuff but I don't know how available they are.

Anyway, big fan of his other four features. Excellent use of offscreen happenings as a potent device linking visual and political kinds of censorship. Viewers don't get to see the party in Crimson Gold or the entire soccer match in Offside. I should let you know Kiarostami wrote both Crimson Gold and The White Balloon in case you didn't.
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