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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:55 pm

Circus Freak wrote:I must conclude from this that you are unconsciously dissuasive.
Haha! That explains a lot, actually.

Like why I can't persuade Beau to call me Maiden when everyone else does. :P
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Beau » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:08 pm

Shield has a stronger, more bellicose sound to it, but at the same time seems to suggest protectiveness, nurture. "Shield, protecting us from bad films and worse discussion through enlightened forum habits." Maiden, by comparison, is too medieval and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio for my liking. And I don't mean her character in The Abyss.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:15 pm

Beau wrote:Shield has a stronger, more bellicose sound to it, but at the same time seems to suggest protectiveness, nurture.
Has any string of qualities ever sounded less like me, though? I admit Shieldmaiden's a silly name, but I'm stuck with it, and I've grown to like "Maiden" because people here call me that.
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Post by MrCarmady » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:44 pm

"I've stuck with it" would be more appropriate, considering the history of name changes around these parts.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:02 pm

MrCarmady wrote:"I've stuck with it" would be more appropriate, considering the history of name changes around these parts.
True. I have no desire to change it in any case. It's part of me now... part of the whole dissuasive persona. :)
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Post by B-Side » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:03 pm

I don't find Shield/Maiden/Shieldmaiden to be dissuasive at all. The contrary, actually. I wish she watched movies I actually felt I could discuss at any length. :P
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Beau » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:03 pm

Shieldmaiden wrote:Has any string of qualities ever sounded less like me, though? I admit Shieldmaiden's a silly name, but I'm stuck with it, and I've grown to like "Maiden" because people here call me that.
Shieldmaiden is not a silly name! :x

I will call you Maiden from now on. That last thing I wrote was really me trying to have fun justifying why I would call you Shield. Truth is there was no thought process involved in the selection.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:13 pm

Beau, :heart:
B-Side wrote:I wish she watched movies I actually felt I could discuss at any length. :P
I wish I did, too. That's the whole reason I'm here – to discuss! What should I watch?
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:14 pm

Speaking of discussion, Beau, did you like Enter the Void?
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Post by B-Side » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:19 pm

Shieldmaiden wrote:What should I watch?
Close-Up!
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Shieldmaiden wrote:Speaking of discussion, Beau, did you like Enter the Void?
Wasn't able to catch it, in the end. :(
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:54 pm

B-Side wrote:Close-Up!
OK! I should have it Friday.
Beau wrote:Wasn't able to catch it, in the end. :(
Aw. I watched it at home, though, and it was still amazing.
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Post by B-Side » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:48 pm

Shieldmaiden wrote:OK! I should have it Friday.
:P

I hope I remember enough details to have a decent discussion about it. :oops:
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Post by dreiser » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:04 pm

Beau wrote:"Among other films" is like 99% of Trip's favorite movies.
:P
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Post by dreiser » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:08 pm

Shieldmaiden wrote:Speaking of discussion, Beau, did you like Enter the Void?
That was my #1 for 2010.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:26 pm

dreiser wrote:That was my #1 for 2010.
I guess it was mine, too, though I haven't been making lists lately. I watched it twice, back-to-back. It was an unforgettable experience, and a lot more life-affirming than I expected.
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Post by dreiser » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:52 pm

Shieldmaiden wrote:I guess it was mine, too, though I haven't been making lists lately. I watched it twice, back-to-back. It was an unforgettable experience, and a lot more life-affirming than I expected.
And all the beautiful visuals... good enough to eat. So many memorable scenes.
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Post by Trip » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:06 am

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Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:21 am

Don't you start again. :P

Hey, did the super-fast Korean internet crash? Bear hasn't posted in weeks. :(
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Haven't heard from him.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:25 am

It's not the same here without him.
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Maiden's Voyage: Faust

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At long last, Faust! After the lackluster Alexandra, I almost didn’t dare to hope that this one would compare to my favorites by him, but I needn’t have worried. With CGI, puppetry, and some convincing makeup, this is big-budget Sokurov; a gorgeous, idiosyncratic fairy-tale that somehow manages to feel in tune with his previous work. It combines the squalor and desperation of The Second Circle, the ridiculous evil of Moloch, and the warmth and energy of Days of Eclipse, with a sort of muscular momentum I’ve never seen in his films before. And if it doesn't tug at my heartstrings like Eclipse, it's still satisfyingly dense and crazy. And, did I mention, gorgeous? It has the changing color filters and skewed, impressionistic pictures I’m used to, but with rich, muted colors that glow like a Pedro Costa film. It's a fascinating adaptation, very much Sokurov's own, but packed with allusions to the things left out, and enhanced by the best devil on film since Zulawski’s Diabel!

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Post by Shieldmaiden » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:05 am

Trip wrote:so gewd
Yes! :)

Hey, how was the sound when you watched it? Instead of the overwhelming sound I expected, this was rather quiet, with only traces of the crazy aural collage I love.
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Post by Trip » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:08 am

Umm, I forget! It was typically at a remove from the images, for the dubbing. I'd like to go back and listen.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:23 am

I think maybe there was just something wrong with my sound. It was way too quiet.
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Well, mine wasn't quiet.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage: Faust

Post by Derninan » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:18 am

Shieldmaiden wrote:enhanced by the best devil on film since Zulawski’s Diabel.
YES! Man, I loved that devil.

Glad it didn't disappoint you. I've been eagerly anticipating this review.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage: Faust

Post by Shieldmaiden » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:56 am

Derninan wrote:YES! Man, I loved that devil.
Yeah, he was comic and disconcertingly evil at the same time. Really perfect. And how about that homunculus?!

I'm glad I had no idea what to expect. It was a series of delightful surprises. I really need this on DVD.
Glad it didn't disappoint you. I've been eagerly anticipating this review.
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Post by Circus Freak » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:14 pm

The optimal length for a post about a film I haven't seen. Kind of like a teaser trailer. And you're using Pedro Costa as a comparison point now? That trip to Abyssinia was a fruitful one indeed. I just watched that other Costa film as well, so this is one of those paranoid's coincidences.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:23 pm

I'll watch that this weekend.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:49 am

Epistemophobia wrote:I'll watch that this weekend.
Ooh, great! I was wondering if you'd seen it yet.
Circus Freak wrote:The optimal length for a post about a film I haven't seen. Kind of like a teaser trailer.
:)

The colors... no, the lighting was sometimes strongly reminiscent of Costa. Just look at those bottom two pictures. Can you see it?

What did you think of Colossal Youth? It's certainly strange, but I ended up kind of loving it for its poetry – the beautiful repetition of language, of images, of ideas.
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Post by Circus Freak » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:16 pm

Shieldmaiden wrote:The colors... no, the lighting was sometimes strongly reminiscent of Costa. Just look at those bottom two pictures. Can you see it?

What did you think of Colossal Youth? It's certainly strange, but I ended up kind of loving it for its poetry – the beautiful repetition of language, of images, of ideas.
I can definitely see it in the last one. I really liked Colossal Youth, although I wouldn't know quite what to say beyond that. It's the sort of film I would have found incredibly boring a few years ago, or that I would have tried to convince myself was more interesting than it actually is, but now I don't need to. I appreciate the cinematic power of monotony.
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Circus Freak wrote:It's the sort of film I would have found incredibly boring a few years ago, or that I would have tried to convince myself was more interesting than it actually is, but now I don't need to. I appreciate the cinematic power of monotony.
But you still call it monotony, haha. I know what you mean, though, and feel the same. Still, I'm not sure I would have appreciated Colossal Youth if it had been my first Costa. Watching them in order helped a lot.
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It was my first Costa and I inexplicably got into its groove. I almost never admire the first film I see by a distinctive director.
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Trip wrote:It was my first Costa and I inexplicably got into its groove. I almost never admire the first film I see by a distinctive director.
How many have you seen now? I was pretty baffled by it at first, but it aged well. That letter he composes to his wife was beautiful. And once I figured out that it couldn't be "understood," that it was more about archetypes, and rhythms, and yearning for the irretrievably lost – I loved it. Plus, visually, it was always interesting, and sometimes truly beautiful:

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Post by dreiser » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:57 pm

Did you watch House of Pleasures again, Maiden?
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:59 pm

dreiser wrote:Did you watch House of Pleasures again, Maiden?
Not yet. It's second in my Netflix queue. I'll definitely try to write something here when I do.
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Post by dreiser » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:04 am

Shieldmaiden wrote:Not yet. It's second in my Netflix queue. I'll definitely try to write something here when I do.
Cool.
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Shieldmaiden wrote:How many have you seen now? I was pretty baffled by it at first, but it aged well. That letter he composes to his wife was beautiful. And once I figured out that it couldn't be "understood," that it was more about archetypes, and rhythms, and yearning for the irretrievably lost – I loved it. Plus, visually, it was always interesting, and sometimes truly beautiful:
About that letter, it's first heard in another Costa...I believe Casa de Lava. Connections! I still have to see In Vanda's Room. Seen 5 films and the Change Rien short.
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Trip wrote:About that letter, it's first heard in another Costa...I believe Casa de Lava. Connections!
Whoa. That one just shot up to the top of my "list."

Vanda's the hardest one to watch, I think, since it's the least fictional. It's good though.
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Post by Trip » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:42 am

The Ne Change Rien film is probably the least fictional :P
It's also a tough watch but really rewarding.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:46 am

Trip wrote:The Ne Change Rien film is probably the least fictional :P
It's also a tough watch but really rewarding.
Oh, well, yeah. I meant, of the ones I've seen. Ne change rien's on the list, too.
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Trip wrote:LIES
Ha. You made me doubt myself. But it's there. In the queue. I'm honest to a fault.
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Post by Epistemophobia » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:24 am

I'm sure Sokurov's Faust was actually made in the 80s and the release delayed until now. Lovely madness captured by a gently floating camera wearing soft, glowing muted colours. Gorgeous. I want to see it in 3D.
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:17 pm

Epistemophobia wrote:I want to see it in 3D.
Ha. Me, too. I’d pay anything!

Tell me what you meant by your first comment. Are you talking about the 80s in general, or Sokurov’s 80s films? Because, aesthetically, this feels different from his other films to me, and it’s not just the colors. (Or, maybe it is.) Has he ever made anything as beautiful?!
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Epistemophobia » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:06 am

I see it more like the kind of films that Zulawski, Has, Szulkin, etc, used to make. Calmly disorientating. There's dialogue everywhere, minimal cutting, a spinning camera, constant momentum, and idea overflow.
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Beau » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:26 am

Trip wrote:It was my first Costa and I inexplicably got into its groove. I almost never admire the first film I see by a distinctive director.
It's Colossal Youth, though...
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Re: Maiden's Voyage

Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:34 am

Epistemophobia wrote:I see it more like the kind of films that Zulawski, Has, Szulkin, etc, used to make. Calmly disorientating. There's dialogue everywhere, minimal cutting, a spinning camera, constant momentum, and idea overflow.
Ah. I love the eighties, including many that don't fit that mold. But obviously I have a lot yet to see... (Has?)
Beau wrote:It's Colossal Youth, though...
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I'm still pretty sure I wouldn't have "gotten it" if I hadn't approached it through the Fontainhas trilogy.
Ant-Man and the Wasp ▪ Night Must Fall ▪ Colo ▪ Help Me, Eros ▪ Le bonheur ▪ Time Bandits ▪ All About Nina ▪ Love Is the Beginning of All Terror ▪ Capernaum ▪ Mary Queen of Scots ▪ Lazzaro felice

Voyage | Female Gaze | MACBETH | Sokurov | Fassbinder | Greenaway | Denis | Sono | my bookshelf
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